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Old 11-13-2013, 02:03 PM   #1
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has anyone fitted 5 small turbos on a T5 engine?
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Old 11-13-2013, 02:08 PM   #2
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That's a lousy idea for several reasons.
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Old 11-13-2013, 02:08 PM   #3
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No. Go away till you can post something other than a troll post.
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Old 11-13-2013, 02:10 PM   #4
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No. Go away till you can post something other than a troll post.
It was a legitimate question, tell me why it's a stupid idea.


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It was a legitimate question, tell me why it's a stupid idea.
1 - Four more problems than usual.
2 - WHAT.. THE ****..
3 - Can you imagine the sh!t storm of intakes, exhausts, heat shields.. never mind the fact that they're using ONE cylinder to spool.
4 - WHAT.. THE ****..
5 - Research theories behind compound turbocharging before asking questions such as this, for all of us.

There's literally no benefit to this idea besides being the worlds most famous *special* person that turpenta-charged a Volvo 5 cylinder. Even two turbos would be a much-less-than-good idea on that motor.
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Old 11-13-2013, 02:10 PM   #6
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This would require lots of shims between each cylinder. Other places too like behind each turbine wheel.
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Old 11-13-2013, 02:20 PM   #7
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you could set it up like this:


or it could be done this way, yah?


I had hood clearance issues with this though:
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Old 11-13-2013, 02:25 PM   #8
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1 - Four more problems than usual.
2 - WHAT.. THE ****..
3 - Can you imagine the sh!t storm of intakes, exhausts, heat shields.. never mind the fact that they're using ONE cylinder to spool.
4 - WHAT.. THE ****..
5 - Research theories behind compound turbocharging before asking questions such as this, for all of us.

There's literally no benefit to this idea besides being the worlds most famous *special* person that turpenta-charged a Volvo 5 cylinder. Even two turbos would be a much-less-than-good idea on that motor.
I was just thinking of doing it for ****s and giggles, as long as I could produce the same power as a normal big turbo, I don't need to research compound charging, my 850 is already compound charged.
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Old 11-13-2013, 02:27 PM   #9
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I was just thinking of doing it for ****s and giggles, as long as I could produce the same power as a normal big turbo, I don't need to research compound charging, my 850 is already compound charged.
Then sir, the best thing for you to do is to get some **** and giggle it seems. Cost effectiveness aside, practicality and usability aside, the inbound ****storm of problems aside... I support you 100%.
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Old 11-13-2013, 02:31 PM   #10
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I was just thinking of doing it for ****s and giggles, as long as I could produce the same power as a normal big turbo, I don't need to research compound charging, my 850 is already compound charged.
i love your build claymore, but you do need to do some research on compound charging if you think your 850 is compound charged... your 850 is twin charged. turbo+super=twin charged, 2x turbo= twin turbo, 2x turbo one feeding the other= compound
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i love your build claymore, but you do need to do some research on compound charging if you think your 850 is compound charged... your 850 is twin charged. turbo+super=twin charged, 2x turbo= twin turbo, 2x turbo one feeding the other= compound
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edit: Compound charging a 2.3 seems like it would almost be reasonable *if* you could get the motor to choke down 30 pounds of extra pressure, but the benefits and cost effectiveness of using ONE turbocharger run off 5 cylinders to make a "safe" amount of boost is inarguable. I don't know how built this motor is, so I can't say it won't handle 30+ pounds. But if you can get upwards of 20 from a reasonably sized unit, that spools relatively quickly, then it would seem silly to do anything besides that..

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Old 11-13-2013, 02:34 PM   #12
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i love your build claymore, but you do need to do some research on compound charging if you think your 850 is compound charged... your 850 is twin charged. turbo+super=twin charged, 2x turbo= twin turbo, 2x turbo one feeding the other= compound
One turbo feeding a supercharger is compound charged, compounding means the second compressor compounds the boost out of the feed compressor.
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Old 11-13-2013, 02:41 PM   #13
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cost, plumbing, efficiency all on wrong side of the equation , it may get cool points, but thats about it
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turbo+super=twin charged, 2x turbo= twin turbo, 2x turbo one feeding the other= compound
silly to argue semantics when the root idea is this stupid, but any two in-line FI systems are compound by definition.
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Old 11-13-2013, 02:47 PM   #15
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cost, plumbing, efficiency all on wrong side of the equation , it may get cool points, but thats about it
The cool points will be negated by the multiple stooooopid points and crushed by the Pointless points.

OP do it, all the cool kids are..
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1. Where would you fit all these turbos and plumbing?
2. Why deal with all that extra weight and plumbing?
3. The cost
4. Each turbo receives a .46L burst of exhaust every other rotation.
5. The shims would expand too much causing oval pistons. Then you would have to swap in a Honda NR500 engine.
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Old 11-13-2013, 02:50 PM   #17
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Start with 5 of these in series and tell us the result.


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Old 11-13-2013, 02:51 PM   #18
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If 5 is good, surely 10 is better?

You could make the intake pipework out of Mc Donalds straws.
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Old 11-13-2013, 02:54 PM   #19
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Thank you.

edit: Compound charging a 2.3 seems like it would almost be reasonable *if* you could get the motor to choke down 30 pounds of extra pressure, but the benefits and cost effectiveness of using ONE turbocharger run off 5 cylinders to make a "safe" amount of boost is inarguable. I don't know how built this motor is, so I can't say it won't handle 30+ pounds. But if you can get upwards of 20 from a reasonably sized unit, that spools relatively quickly, then it would seem silly to do anything besides that..
My engine is a 2.4 built motor and as it happens didn't like 35psi and split a liner...lol, all ok now.
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Old 11-13-2013, 02:56 PM   #20
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This is going to get ugly.
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Old 11-13-2013, 02:58 PM   #21
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This is going to get ugly.
No, I don't think so, it was a legitimate question, but no sensible answers, just the usual TB hate.
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If 5 is good, surely 10 is better?
**** dude, genius. I feel like an idiot now..
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That thing only made like 400 horse or something.. maybe more, but after so much.. to get so little.. I just can't see it.
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