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Old 09-26-2016, 10:33 AM   #126
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Old 11-07-2016, 01:44 AM   #127
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So, my 142 now has B23ft sitting in it. Pretty pleased about that.




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Old 11-07-2016, 03:01 AM   #128
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Fantastic! It looks so clean!
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Old 11-07-2016, 03:51 AM   #129
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really nicely! im interested what you going to do with the inlet manifold and the brake booster.
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Old 11-07-2016, 04:10 AM   #130
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Seen some people adapt the chevy 9" booster and others use a p80

Car is looking good. What trans are you using m41?
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Old 11-07-2016, 05:33 AM   #131
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Very sexy... I need a 140. You going full MS?

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Old 11-07-2016, 10:34 AM   #132
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Fantastic! It looks so clean!
Thanks, Thomas! I used Great White high heat wax to shine up the engine bay paint. Curious to see how it'll hold up.

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really nicely! im interested what you going to do with the inlet manifold and the brake booster.
I'm actually having Yoshifab build me a manifold to fit with the stock booster. The runners will be curved upward and the plenum will sit above them, and it's supposed to clear the booster. I haven't seen it yet, but I'll definitely share the details once it's done.

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Car is looking good. What trans are you using m41?
Thanks! I put the M41 behind the B23ft for now. This swap is so involved, and I have pretty limited time, so I want to get the motor running and broken in before I think about a transmission swap.

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Thank you! I'm using LH 2.4. My ultimate goal is just a solid 250 hp, and that's been done on LH. The motor has squirters, 9.4:1 SCR, a 15g converted to a 19t, iPD turbo cam, and a big eBay intercooler. I think it'll run nicely on LH with some chips.
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Old 11-07-2016, 10:47 AM   #133
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that's nice that you can use the original brake booster, i have one from a nissan micra, that's working also but original is nicer. like to see some pics of the manifold wen its don.
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Old 11-07-2016, 01:12 PM   #134
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that's nice that you can use the original brake booster, i have one from a nissan micra, that's working also but original is nicer. like to see some pics of the manifold wen its don.
Have you thought about using a smaller dual diaphragm booster? I was looking at something like this. It should give just a little more vacuum assist than the stock 9".

https://www.summitracing.com/parts/tff-2222nb/overview/
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Have you thought about using a smaller dual diaphragm booster? I was looking at something like this. It should give just a little more vacuum assist than the stock 9".

https://www.summitracing.com/parts/tff-2222nb/overview/
those are nice indeed, don't now if i have room for 7" , i will look into it, they are not extremely expensive so i could always try it out.
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Old 11-08-2016, 10:36 PM   #136
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So, my 142 now has B23ft sitting in it. Pretty pleased about that.

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That looks awesome. Is that flat black paint in the engine bay? (I'll have to show this to the man painting my 142, who doesn't agree that a black engine bay would look good with a white car).

And which engine mounts are you using?
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Old 11-08-2016, 11:08 PM   #137
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That looks awesome. Is that flat black paint in the engine bay? (I'll have to show this to the man painting my 142, who doesn't agree that a black engine bay would look good with a white car).

And which engine mounts are you using?
Thanks. The engine bay is actually original Dark Green paint, that I buffed up a bit. It looks really dark.

I'm making my mounts from 1/4" plate. I had a set of the Yoshi mount adapters, but I didn't like how the engine was sitting a little slanted and I thought it'd be fun to make some. I'll share that when I'm done this weekend.
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Old 11-14-2016, 02:37 AM   #138
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And which engine mounts are you using?
We finished the mounts yesterday and the motor is finally bolted in, instead of resting on a floor jack. I used The Yoshi plates that I already had as the base of the mount, then built out the rest with more 1/4" plate. I think I could have used 3/16" and been just fine. Anyway, The motor is in, and sits pretty much dead in the center of the car, and upright, so I'm happy.



I put the stock radiator in, and there's about 1/4 to 5/8" between the water pump snout and the radiator core. Pretty tight. Looks like I'll be using some pusher fans on the front of the radiator. I tilted my intercooler forward a bit and I think that'll make room for a couple 9" fans. We'll see.

By next weekend I'm shooting to have a new alternator mounting bracket figure out. I bought the one that mechaniman used for his swap, but I didn't realize that B230's and B23's had slightly different water pump outlets. His bracket was on a 230, and I have a 23. If I had a dollar for every time I've impulsively bought something for this project and later realized it wouldn't work. I guess I'd still have lost a a bunch of money...
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Old 11-21-2016, 08:17 PM   #139
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These engine mounts you made look terrific.

Nice work.

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I put the stock radiator in, and there's about 1/4 to 5/8" between the water pump snout and the radiator core. Pretty tight..
Another guy building a 142 here in Oz has the same issue. He's planning on using a water pump out of a 360, which AFAIK was never on the USA sales catalogs. They shoe-horned both B19 (2 litre B21) and B200 (2 litre B230) engines into these cars, and they used water pumps with smaller snouts to make the whole shebang fit.

JFTR, these are the part numbers -

B200 engine = 3344252 (for B230)
B19 engine = 3344253 (for B21, B23)

Skandix carry both pumps, e.g.:

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JFTR, these are the part numbers -

B200 engine = 3344252 (for B230)
B19 engine = 3344253 (for B21, B23)

Skandix carry both pumps, e.g.:

Thanks! My little 110 MIG didn't like that 1/4" plate, but my friend has a better welder and much more experience, so we got it done.

Thanks for the info on the water pump. I had read about that option early on in my research, but never found part numbers and kind of gave up on it.

I'll seriously look into that if the new radiator I got doesn't fit.
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Old 11-21-2016, 09:36 PM   #141
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I believe you have to find a 360 pulley to use that water pump though. I looked into that a while back. The pump is still available but the pulleys are almost impossible to find.
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Old 11-21-2016, 11:18 PM   #142
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I believe you have to find a 360 pulley to use that water pump though. I looked into that a while back. The pump is still available but the pulleys are almost impossible to find.
Yup, this is what I'm realizing as I comb the internet looking for a pulley...
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Yup, this is what I'm realizing as I comb the internet looking for a pulley...
Ah, well; there's a trick to that.

The suitable B19 pulley for a fixed fan application in a 360 is p/n 1276144.

It's also used on the AQ131A marine engine.

And... there's one for 20 bux on eBay at the moment.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Volvo-Penta-...-/301898737473
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Ah, well; there's a trick to that.

The suitable B19 pulley for a fixed fan application in a 360 is p/n 1276144.

It's also used on the AQ131A marine engine.

And... there's one for 20 bux on eBay at the moment.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Volvo-Penta-...-/301898737473
Well, that was easy. I might have to impulse buy that one tonight, thanks!
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Old 11-22-2016, 01:36 AM   #145
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Hold on. That's a standard B21/B23 pulley.

Edit: I think it's the wrong part number. There's another pulley for early 240's, part #463432 that's the single groove version.



I believe what you want is a 1346447.

http://www.volvowholesalepartsdirect...3/1346447.html

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Hold on. That's a standard B21/B23 pulley.

I believe what you want is a 1346447.

http://www.volvowholesalepartsdirect...3/1346447.html
According to the link below, 1276144 is a B19 pulley, and the one you've listed (1346447) is for the B200 with the viscous fan.

http://www.volvowholesalepartsdirect...=0&modelYear=0

The info I got was via volvo300mania.com.

http://www.volvo300mania.com/uk/foru...hp?f=6&t=16322

Edit: Oh, you've just edited.
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Yes, but 1276144 is also the part number for a B21/B23 2 groove 240 pulley. Is the shorter pulley just a myth or do you have to use a 360 viscous clutch fan, pump and pulley?

There's another pulley listed for B19 in the 340-360 catalog, bit it's also for a viscous fan WP.
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Yes, but 1276144 is also the part number for a B21/B23 2 groove 240 pulley. Is the shorter pulley just a myth or do you have to use a 360 viscous clutch fan, pump and pulley?

There's another pulley listed for B19 in the 340-360 catalog, bit it's also for a viscous fan WP.
With the B19 360, the shorter water pump results in the same pulley sitting closer up to the engine.

So, I got thinking to myself: "Self, if the fan pulley for the 360 is the same part number as a 240 B21 fan pulley, and the crank pulley for a B19 360 is also the same part number for a B21 240 (i.e p/n 1219148-2), but the water pump is shorter, how the hell do the belts align?"

Well, pictures show you everything.

This is the 360 B19 crank layout -



- and this is the 240 B19 layout.



The 360 doesn't have a spacer sleeve (#14 in the 240 layout, above), which has the effect of moving the pulley further back. (On VADIS, they show the sleeveless setup as "ALT 2').

Myth busted, for the B21 family engines - maybe.
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Old 11-22-2016, 11:40 AM   #149
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Interesting. My B23 has the same crank pulley/spacer layout as the 360 B19 diagram you showed. Just two thin washers on either side of the gear, then the hub that accepts the standard 3-groove pulley. (I cut it down to a single groove).

Either way, to use the shorter water pump, I need a pulley that is the same amount shorter and it looks like that might not exist?
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very careful dissection/plastic surgery? whats the depth need to be? and ID/OD of the pulley, and how wide of a groove?
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