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Old 03-29-2017, 11:05 AM   #26
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Old 03-29-2017, 11:49 AM   #27
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How much does that motor weigh?
Complete engine with all accessories is 302kg (666Lbs). The gearbox is 76kg (169Lbs). It'll be a bit lighter in my car though, as I'm not using everything that's on there. I'm not using the secondairy air pump, the rather massive AC compressor and the fan with the viscous coupling. That should shave off about 25kg. I'm also moving the battery to the back and, if I can find one, install an aluminium hood from a diesel 740. All in all it shouldn't be much heavier than a 2jz-gte swap.
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Old 03-29-2017, 12:11 PM   #28
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Pooprah, I wasn't aware you were doing something like this also
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Old 03-29-2017, 12:13 PM   #29
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I meant that as an internet high-five of encouragement!
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Old 03-29-2017, 04:25 PM   #30
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How much does that motor weigh?
The complete engine with all accesories and manifolds is 300kg. Just took the original TB's off and those together are already a good 5kg. Very heavy things. I also don't need the AC compressor and the secondairy airpump so it'll be a bit lighter. The manifolds weigh quite a bit too.

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Pooprah, I wasn't aware you were doing something like this also
I think he was quoting a post of me from my old thread.

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Old 03-29-2017, 04:37 PM   #31
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Old 03-29-2017, 04:58 PM   #32
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Old 04-03-2017, 06:11 PM   #33
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Been working on the engine mounts. The right one is almost done and the left one is tacked together. I'll finish both of them later this week. I'm using a big polyurethene rubber mount from the leaf springs of a Ford Escort MK2 or something. They're nicely sized for this. As there is not a lot of clearance in the trans tunnel, between the subframe and oil pan and between the intake and the master brake cylinder, I don't want that the engine moves too much as it might hit something. I hope it's not too stiff, but a V12 is an extremely smooth running engine so it should be ok. I mounted the engine about as low as I can get it for obvious reasons, and wanted some relatively small mounts so there is more space for the headers. The tubing diameter I used was a bit too large for the rubbers, so I had to cut them and reweld but now they are perfect for the rubber size. The mount will bolt on to the Volvo crossmember at the original mounting points and on the V12 also on the original points. This way if it ends up being too close to the crossmember, I can always raise it a bit by putting a spacer between the mount and the crossmember until I get the right hight.





















One could even use the original Mercedes mounts, they line up rather well on the Volvo. The reason I'm not using them is because they are rather big and the bolt hole for the rubber mount is at an awkward angle to the subframe (not so clear in the pictures), it's tilted with the bottom towards the wheels by about 30 degrees or so. It will still work to make a set of mounts to fit the Volvo subframe and bolts in the Mercedes arms, but as said before they'll eat up a lot of space that could be used for a nice pair of headers.








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Old 04-04-2017, 02:48 AM   #34
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Wow, nice!

No pan yet?

Any pics as it sits in the bay?
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Old 04-07-2017, 01:57 PM   #35
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Wow, nice!

No pan yet?

Any pics as it sits in the bay?
Thanks! No pan yet, I'll do that once I have the engine fitted with all the mounts.

I finished the engine mounts, just the trans mount needs to be finished and then I can make the pan. The engine is sitting slightly lower than I'd like, but I have to see how much I can notch the crossmember for the oil pan or just use some spacers between the mounts and the crossmember to make it sit a bit higher, but that will be tight then with the trans tunnel. The engine sits firmly in place, I hope it's not too harsh with the poly mounts, but there isn't much clearance anywhere so at least this way it can't move around.

















I hacked up the stock volvo trans crossmember and moved it back a little bit by welding the holes closed and redrilling. I'm using the stock mercedes trans mount.



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Old 04-07-2017, 03:25 PM   #36
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you going fast! like the motormounts. they look indestructible.
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Old 04-08-2017, 08:31 AM   #37
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Thanks! I'm not going fast enough for my liking haha. They should be, I don't want this thing to wobble around too much as there isn't enough space for that.
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Old 04-08-2017, 09:49 AM   #38
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Looking good!

Here in Sweden with this engine swap to get it road legal the 745 would have to weigh 2000kg
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Old 04-08-2017, 10:32 AM   #39
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Here in Sweden with this engine swap to get it road legal the 745 would have to weigh 2000kg
Haha why is that then? To get this registered in Holland should be ok (the car is still on Dutch plates), but to get it on German plates then is going to be a challenge too
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Old 04-08-2017, 10:51 AM   #40
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It's either the power limit set by the automaker (740 is 238hp/310nm) or upgrade brakes, chassi, axles and stuff and get it registered as a "modified car" then the limit is 15kw/100kg. That's why the T5 is so popular here, just within the power limits.
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Old 04-09-2017, 04:34 PM   #41
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Ahhhhhhh NZ :-) Poor Europeans. Finland is bad, too. And Spain. And Portugal. I hope you find an inexpensive way to achieve your goals.
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Old 04-09-2017, 06:11 PM   #42
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Mine turned 35 years old this year -- no inspection of any type at all for 2017 and on into the future...
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Old 04-12-2017, 12:49 PM   #43
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The Netherlands (where the car is still registered) is still fine with car mods etc. Germany is not fantastic but a lot is still possible. Worst case scenario is that I'll have to keep it on Dutch plates once it's done if it gets too difficult to register it in Germany.

In other news, I finished the install of the Ford hydroboost unit. It's scary how well it fits in the Volvo with this engine. I used the Ford mounting plate that puts it at a slight upward angle. I'll also use the Mustang master cylinder as it is very nicely sized for the calipers that I want to use. Welded the original bolt holes closed after removing the studs and then redrilled and rewelded the studs in for the Volvo pattern. Then I cut it to the same size as the Volvo brake booster mount.





Next up was getting it connected to the Volvo brake pedal. The hydroboost unit connects to the pedal in a mustang with this 16mm inner diameter thing, but the Volvo uses a fork kind of thing that slides over the pedal. To my surprise, the distance between the mounting face of the Volvo brake booster to the center of the hole to attach it to the brake pedal is exactly the same on the Hydroboost. All I needed to do was just cut open the back of the brake pedal and get a little spacer with 16mm outer diameter and 8mm inner, so I can use the original Volvo pin for connecting the pedal. The pedal height is identical as stock and also the travel is the same. I'll just have to see if the brakes are not too touchy with the hydroboost, but there is plenty of room to modify the pedal ratio as desired.























These arrived, I'll be making a set of adapters to fit them.



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Old 04-12-2017, 05:45 PM   #44
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Did those come off of another car?
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Old 04-12-2017, 06:22 PM   #45
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Yes, these can be found on a Porsche Cayenne/VW Touareg/Audi Q7. They are Brembo calipers for a 330mm rotor diameter (the ones marked with 17Z. The 18Z ones are for a 350mm diameter), same as the Volvo S60R ones. It's a popular upgrade with the VW and Audi crowd and Homer here on TB made a kit for mounting these on a 240. Should stop nicely with these.
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Old 04-13-2017, 04:15 PM   #46
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Bolted the alternator and power steering pump to the engine to start measuring for the oil sump.



Crossmember for the trans is almost finished now too. Was a fiddly job as I don't have a lift... Just need to modify 1 small area where it sits too close to the transmission, weld the unused holes closed and then clean up and paint.





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Old 04-14-2017, 10:51 AM   #47
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You sir, are doing big things. Looks good!
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Old 04-14-2017, 10:55 AM   #48
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This is nuts. I love it! Nice work man!
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Old 04-17-2017, 05:46 AM   #49
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...but as said before they'll eat up a lot of space that could be used for a nice pair of headers.
Turbos... you meant to say TURBOS

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Old 04-17-2017, 06:59 AM   #50
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