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Old 09-25-2018, 01:29 PM   #26
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Apologies guys, havenít had time to post due to work. Iíll get a pic up if I can work out how to do it shortly. Tried original flywheel and still the same. Borrowing compression tester this evening so willl update on that. Iíd be amazed if lifters are pumped as it hadnít run once.
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Old 09-25-2018, 02:38 PM   #27
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even when theyre not it should run...
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Old 09-25-2018, 03:24 PM   #28
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even when theyre not it should run...
I've had issues with mine on more than one occasion not starting initially after sitting for a bit, with no compression, then slowly catching back up. Not sure if that's lack of pumping up or excessively pumping up. mom's 850 would do the same thing if you let it sit long enough as well.
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Old 09-25-2018, 08:32 PM   #29
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It wont start because its in the wrong sub-forum.
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Old 09-25-2018, 08:45 PM   #30
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Old 09-26-2018, 01:26 AM   #31
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Have you put a timing light on it while cranking to make sure it is in the ballpark BTDC ?
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Old 09-26-2018, 03:12 AM   #32
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Old 09-26-2018, 02:37 PM   #33
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What does your labscope say?
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Old 09-27-2018, 03:13 AM   #34
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I've had issues with mine on more than one occasion not starting initially after sitting for a bit, with no compression, then slowly catching back up. Not sure if that's lack of pumping up or excessively pumping up. mom's 850 would do the same thing if you let it sit long enough as well.
Ok? Never had this issue on mine and it sits due to this "every other **** goes before my projectcar crap" sometimes more than 3 months or so.. ok.. i have INA VW Lifters? Dont know.. also there this urban legend that firing up the 6cyl whiteblock and shutting it off after a few seconds will deprime the lifters so it wont start and flood itself.. i never had this issue also..
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Old 09-28-2018, 02:07 PM   #35
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Iím trying the strobe tomorrow morning but have been wondering in the mean time if a wasted spark set up would get rid if the dizzy issue as a reasonable cost option ?
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Old 09-28-2018, 02:35 PM   #36
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It seems you are spending a lot of time without verifying the important things.
1. Cranking pressure. Use a compression gauge. Disconnect the coil, disconnect the fuel injectors. Crank the engine over using the starter 3-5 revolutions with the throttle wide open. Report back what those numbers are for each cylinder.

2. Set the engine to TDC on cylinder #1. Use a rod in the plug hole, and VERIFY it with the crank pulley and the timing marks on the lower cover. Does the crank pulley mark line up with the timing marks in the cover?
3. With the engine at TDC #1, check the camshaft timing and the aux shaft timing is correct. The timing marks on the cam gears need to align with the ones on the valve cover (basically 90deg to the head surface). Aux shaft mark should point to the plastic mark on the timing cover. Is this correct?
4. With the engine at TDC #1, where is the rotor on the distributor pointing? Does this make sense for how your plug wires are ran?
5. Do you have the plug wires going to the correct cylinders?
Do these things, take pictures, report back.
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Old 09-28-2018, 03:27 PM   #37
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If you can't get an engine to start why would it make sense to make it more complicated and hack in some more electronics?
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Old 09-29-2018, 01:02 PM   #38
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Itís running.
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Old 09-30-2018, 11:53 AM   #39
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what was the problem?
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Old 09-30-2018, 12:50 PM   #40
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8v distributor needed turning 90 deg anti- clockwise to match position of 16v one! If only fixes were usually this simple. Put TTV flywheel back on and itís starting up fine, so clutch and box back on next.
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Old 09-30-2018, 02:29 PM   #41
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Good find. Pics?
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Old 09-30-2018, 02:53 PM   #42
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Old 09-30-2018, 03:19 PM   #43
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Iíve got some pics and a video but canít work out how to upload?
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Old 10-01-2018, 09:38 AM   #44
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Ok? Never had this issue on mine and it sits due to this "every other **** goes before my projectcar crap" sometimes more than 3 months or so.. ok.. i have INA VW Lifters? Dont know.. also there this urban legend that firing up the 6cyl whiteblock and shutting it off after a few seconds will deprime the lifters so it wont start and flood itself.. i never had this issue also..
I'm not talking about cranking and shutting off and cranking again, I'm talking about walking out, hitting the key, and getting zero compression for a little bit. the mechanic my parents (and I continue to use) used mentioned that ours was not the only 850 that would do that. Never bothered to dig too heavily into the 16v doing it, just chalked it up to older lifters or something like that, and let it ride. I've also had weak springs allow the lifters to get a little too full and drop compression briefly.
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Old 10-06-2018, 12:53 AM   #45
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Put a timing light on the pulley...
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Old 10-07-2018, 03:12 AM   #47
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How do I get the video clip on here? I know itís probably in the ďwrong ď section but Would appreciate your help guys.
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Old 10-07-2018, 03:49 AM   #48
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Upload video to youtube and put the link here.
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