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Old 07-13-2009, 11:32 PM   #26
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2 pcs Calipers from 850 92- / X70 -00
2 pcs 302mm brake from rotors X70
2 pcs Caliper Bracket Part# 8602456
2 pcs longer brakehose from X70 (from car with 302mm brakes like T5)
4 pcs spacers 6,3mm thick
4 pcs bolts 12:9 quality, 35mm long, M12*1,75
1 pcs can of brakefluid
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Old 07-14-2009, 07:32 AM   #27
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Great thread. Just what I needed!
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Old 07-14-2009, 07:35 PM   #28
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Worked on Volvos for a lot of years. Haven't seen that bracket before on a US car. Dealer says EU only. 60 bux each. Cheap if available. Front drive spacing was always the wider/later here in US.
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Old 07-26-2009, 12:03 PM   #29
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Well I was wrong about the bracket being EU only, it is used on front drive cars to 2000 with 12" rotors. Did this conversion and WOW I have brakes. Used EBC Redstuff pads front and rear and this thing stops on a dime. MUCH better than the old "Jumbos" ever did.

Here's what I used:
2) 272276 front rotors for 16" wheels
2) 8602456 caliper holder from Volvo (includes the rubbers and stainless allen bolts, caps)
1) 8602344 Left Front Caliper (for 16") For the RIGHT side
1) 8602345 Right Front Caliper (for 16") For the LEFT side
1) 30793799 Front Pads

4) .250" caliper bracket spacers.....I made these on the lathe. Any machine shop can make these for little money. This was the hardest part of the swap. These are just a flat washer to go in between the caliper bracket and the strut tube bracket.

4) Stock 940 Front Caliper Hold Down Bolt

I used the original front brake hoses minus the 1" adapter at the caliper. Just remove these and discard.

With the exeption of the 4 one-quarter inch bracket sapcers this is an easy bolt on front brake upgrade. The caliper pistons are still 57mm just like the Girling 940 "jumbo" calipers were, so the brake pedal should have the same feel.

Each side is 5 lbs. heavier than the original brake setup. 10 pounds total.

The S80 brakes are HUGE and weigh 10 lbs. more PER SIDE. A lot of work was needed to make these work because the bracket does not have the same hole spacing. Also the S80 utilizes 60mm caliper pistons in the front. Surely the brake pedal would be lower to the floor.

Will go to the drags soon and post results.

Again, THANKS for the help!

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Old 07-26-2009, 12:19 PM   #30
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be glad you have what you have already, i've got a 1984 760 with a 306ci turbo v8 in it and still has the 1984 brakes, you wanna talk about scary at the drag strip. i'm looking to upgrade to the brake setup you are trying to get rid of.
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Old 07-26-2009, 02:05 PM   #31
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what exactly is your brake problem? green fade? temperature fade? glazing? boiling brake fluid?

thats usual thing to find out before even thinking of swapping the brakesystem completely....so check your brake temperature first.

also: what brake lines are you using? how old are the brakelines? brakediscs getting thin?

before going nuts on buying adapters and calipers:

1. supply enough cool air to the center of the brakedisc (mod the backplate)
2. get some proper brakepads first (ebc yellow for example),
3. some stainless steel braided brake hoses if you still got rubber hoses
4. new brake fluid

that should solve most brake problems.

if then your brakes are still insufficient you could upgrade to something bigger (but dont let those 16" rims limit your choice, and dont forget to use a suitable master cilinder.)
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Old 07-26-2009, 11:31 PM   #32
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matt, i have jumbo pads calipers and brackets (new pbr deluxe pads) if you want them
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Old 07-27-2009, 12:48 AM   #33
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i'd love to see some pics of this car and it's engine
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Old 08-01-2009, 05:44 AM   #34
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Well after driving this thing for a week with the 12" discs and EBC red pads front and rear all I can say is WOW. I do a fair amount of drag racing and am getting ready to turbo/intercool this thing. It's hard enough stopping after back to back 113 mph runs at the strip. What I really wanted was less pedal pressure more consistent stopping and that is what I accomplished.
I'm really surprised Volvo didn't have a 12" rotor setup in 960 series.
I've built a couple of V8 Chev powered Volvo but this one met just about every goal I had.
12.3@113 quarter times. 1.9 60ft. times. Handles well with the new Bilstein Heavy duty struts and now stops on a dime. 27 miles per gallon on a trip and starts, runs perfectly. No overheating either.
LS1 puts down 368 hp. to the rollers and does not spin coming out of the hole with street tires. the best part is my wife will drive this and not complain one bit about smells, stalling, rough ride. The A/c and cruise work well too.
Hoping the turbo setup will work out.

I built both these cars. The gray one has over 70,000 on the conversion. Fuel injected ZZ4 T56 6 spd. 345 to the rollers. My video is kind of gay but gets the point across.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDMt-Gd7noM I can't wait to clean one of these new 2010 Camaros at the drags!
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Old 08-01-2009, 08:11 AM   #35
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I have been using this setup since05 IIRC . It consists of 92> 240 ABS strut housings and Brembo S60R calipers with S60R front rotors . I did it mainly for towing but man does it stop. Send me a PM if you want to chat more about this conversion.


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Old 08-07-2009, 01:49 AM   #36
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Well I was wrong about the bracket being EU only, it is used on front drive cars to 2000 with 12" rotors. Did this conversion and WOW I have brakes. Used EBC Redstuff pads front and rear and this thing stops on a dime. MUCH better than the old "Jumbos" ever did.

Here's what I used:
2) 272276 front rotors for 16" wheels
2) 8602456 caliper holder from Volvo (includes the rubbers and stainless allen bolts, caps)
1) 8602344 Left Front Caliper (for 16") For the RIGHT side
1) 8602345 Right Front Caliper (for 16") For the LEFT side
1) 30793799 Front Pads

4) .250" caliper bracket spacers.....I made these on the lathe. Any machine shop can make these for little money. This was the hardest part of the swap. These are just a flat washer to go in between the caliper bracket and the strut tube bracket.

4) Stock 940 Front Caliper Hold Down Bolt

I used the original front brake hoses minus the 1" adapter at the caliper. Just remove these and discard.

With the exeption of the 4 one-quarter inch bracket sapcers this is an easy bolt on front brake upgrade. The caliper pistons are still 57mm just like the Girling 940 "jumbo" calipers were, so the brake pedal should have the same feel.

Each side is 5 lbs. heavier than the original brake setup. 10 pounds total.

The S80 brakes are HUGE and weigh 10 lbs. more PER SIDE. A lot of work was needed to make these work because the bracket does not have the same hole spacing. Also the S80 utilizes 60mm caliper pistons in the front. Surely the brake pedal would be lower to the floor.

Will go to the drags soon and post results.

Again, THANKS for the help!

John
Thanks for detailing everything, i love your car. My wagon ran pretty much identical times to what you are running...still using stock brakes too. What was the total cost for the conversion? Did you buy all the parts new from volvo? Would you be interested in making another set of the spacers?

Thanks!
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Old 08-07-2009, 04:45 AM   #37
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I bought Centric brand rebuilt calipers because they come complete with brackets, pads to try out. I didn't bother to check the prices. We run a Volvo shop so we just order the stuff in. I don't think I had much over 400 bucks for everything. The spacers are just 1/4" thick washers. No problem to make.

Toddster are you the guy who posted last year on the World Pac forums? Seems like I've seen that picture before.
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Old 08-07-2009, 09:59 PM   #38
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Where does the 8602456 caliper bracket come from? Is it only available from the dealer? If I buy a caliper from the X70 application will it come with that bracket?

I think I might do this... seems like an easy and cheap upgrade since my brakes are currently garbage.

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I bought Centric brand rebuilt calipers because they come complete with brackets, pads to try out. I didn't bother to check the prices. We run a Volvo shop so we just order the stuff in. I don't think I had much over 400 bucks for everything. The spacers are just 1/4" thick washers. No problem to make.

Toddster are you the guy who posted last year on the World Pac forums? Seems like I've seen that picture before.
Yeah buddy that was me . How's it stopping for you?
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Old 08-10-2009, 12:19 PM   #40
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Ya some rebuilt calipers do not come with the bracket so buyer beware.

Todd, At the drags saturday I lost a tenth on the 60ft. because I installed Bilstein Heavy Duty fronts and they don't rebound at all.

Hot day but still managed better times than all the Vipers that were running 12.80s.

My best time was a 12.50 @ 113mph.

Some guy pulls in with a 911 Turbo Porsche. I cleaned him all the way just about to the end and he blows by me just before the traps.

He ran thru the traps at 121mph. That thing was fast but didn't leave well.

The new brakes work perfecty at the strip.
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Old 08-16-2009, 01:03 PM   #41
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Anyone who did this have any luck buying rebuilt calipers with brackets included? Some of the calipers on rockauto for 16" wheel say bracket included... seems dicey though as I've had such things not be "as described" in the past. The local parts stores won't even say whether it has it or not. The brackets are pricey from the dealer.(at least in my cheap ass mind)

If anybody can chime in a good place to get the calipers with a bracket attached I'd dig it.

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Old 07-30-2010, 12:53 AM   #42
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before going nuts on buying adapters and calipers:

1. supply enough cool air to the center of the brakedisc (mod the backplate)
What is the Backplate mod?
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Old 07-30-2010, 04:10 AM   #43
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Try www.xtremt.se for S60R Adapters....
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What is the Backplate mod?
louver the dust shield behind the brake rotor so it can pull in air or direct air from the front of the car with some ducting through said louver. Cutting a big hole also works.
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Dale's wilwood adapter kit is designed to fit under the stock Hydra alloys and uses a 12.19" rotor with an alloy rotor hat and forged 4 piston calipers. If you are looking for a lightweight solution, this is probably your best bet.
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Working on setting up a set of Wilwood Superlite's with a set of 13" S60R rotors. Adapters look to be cake, rotor fitment appears to be good, I'll know more in a couple weeks.
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Old 11-04-2012, 05:04 AM   #47
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I did this upgrade a couple of years ago - nice.

BTW none of the parts I ordered, per FFF list, were the parts I got. I guess stuff was superseded.

Caliper Bracket - 8251319
Brake Pad Kit - 30793799
Rotor Kit - 31262095
Caliper - 8111102

The boxes say the Rotor is for 800 Turbo 97-, T5R 97- and the Pads say 800 S/V70 (-00) C70.

I don't have a photo of the other caliper, but I guess the other side should be 8111101.
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Old 02-18-2013, 02:36 PM   #48
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Can anyone confirm the 302mm rotor and X70 caliper will fit under Hydras (on a 940)? Thanks!
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I would imagine it's quite likely that they do fit. I've tried Aurigas (do fit) and Galaxys (don't fit). The Hydra's look to be a similar design to the Aurigas.

http://www.volvoforums.org.uk/showthread.php?t=171330
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Yes, they fit with Hydras 100%.
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