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Old 09-20-2010, 03:24 PM   #1
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Thumbs down Pilot Bearing nightmare

I have tried using the hydraulic pressure method to pop it out as well as use a steel hook to get behind it with -1% luck here...

B21 motor

Any other tips on getting this damn thing out...maybe I should just replace the block


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Old 09-20-2010, 03:47 PM   #2
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See if you can borrow a pilot bearing puller. I've used them before with great success. They are basically a 2 jaw puller that you screw on tight with a slide weight you slid/slam on the shaft of the puller.
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Old 09-20-2010, 04:13 PM   #3
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See if you can borrow a pilot bearing puller. I've used them before with great success. They are basically a 2 jaw puller that you screw on tight with a slide weight you slid/slam on the shaft of the puller.
Many here are into bicycles; some bikeshops that were around in the 70's-80's had a puller to change 'sealed' bearings in some hubs and bb's, which were actually cartridge bearings that did in fact have a seal. This puller would work perfectly for this.
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Old 09-20-2010, 04:58 PM   #4
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You put grease in it and tried pressing it out? If there any air bubbles it wont work.

Go get a puller of some sort at Checker or Autozone.
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Old 09-20-2010, 05:22 PM   #5
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To get the pilot bearing out of my crank I made some pulp out of wet shredded paper and packed it in the hole. Then I used an appropriately sized socket attached to an extension bar and tapped it in with a hammer, withdrawing it to add more pulp as I went. Eventually it popped out.
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Old 09-20-2010, 05:24 PM   #6
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Did you remove the steel snap ring first?
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Old 09-20-2010, 05:28 PM   #7
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Assuming the snap ring is out, get a slide-hammer style puller.
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Old 09-20-2010, 05:47 PM   #8
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Did you remove the steel snap ring first?
There wasn't one
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Old 09-20-2010, 05:52 PM   #9
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There should be. And it wouldn't be the first time someone tried this w/o taking it out.

Looking at that pic, it sure looks like there is one still there.
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Old 09-20-2010, 05:56 PM   #10
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Did you remove the steel snap ring first?
yes, snap ring out, unless there is a second one im struggling to see?
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Old 09-20-2010, 06:05 PM   #11
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I had a troublesome pilot bearing on a B20 once, after I punched in the center of the bearing with a big hammer & chisel, I used a Dremel tool to grind out the remaining outer bearing race.
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Old 09-20-2010, 06:32 PM   #12
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Cut it out. Or replace block. I have a good b21ft you can have for free.

He blocked me. Someone quote it.
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Old 09-20-2010, 06:33 PM   #13
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Cut it out. Or replace block. I have a good b21ft you can have for free.

He blocked me. Someone quote it.
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Old 09-20-2010, 06:37 PM   #14
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Cut it out. Or replace block. I have a good b21ft you can have for free.

He blocked me. Someone quote it.
i second the pilot bearing puller idea.
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Old 09-20-2010, 06:44 PM   #15
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Mine on the 91 240 was snug, but came out with not much hassle. Clean all the dirt & clutch dust out from in front of it. That'll help some maybe. Also,See if A/Z has a puller for it.
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I've seen the snap ring, but my car never had one. The clutch had been replaced before I bought it, so it probably got left out. I never had an issue in the 100k+ miles I've put on the car.
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Old 09-20-2010, 06:47 PM   #17
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This thing?

http://www.harborfreight.com/3-jaw-p...ller-4876.html

I gotta deal with mine this weekend, so I'm glad this came up now...
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Old 09-20-2010, 06:58 PM   #18
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The thing is, the pilot bearing is so small, the puller doesn't fit through the hole. at least the ones from checker or auto zone.

Anyone know if the harbor freight one actually works?
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Old 09-20-2010, 07:02 PM   #19
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Unless someone else answers, since it says the inside diameter it fits, I can measure the one I have when I get home from work.
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Old 09-20-2010, 07:08 PM   #20
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They make pullers for the purpose. They also make dremels and hacksaws.
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Old 09-20-2010, 08:35 PM   #21
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done. Made a tool
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Old 09-20-2010, 08:54 PM   #22
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Old 09-20-2010, 08:57 PM   #23
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done. Made a tool
Make a pic for the next guy, or it didn't happen
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Old 09-20-2010, 09:00 PM   #24
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Make a pic for the next guy, or it didn't happen
Will do tomorrow, had to hurry back home to watch my son, girlfriend had class tonight.

Went to harbor freight and once again tool did not fit, all the tools you can rent/buy are too large btw.
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Old 09-20-2010, 09:24 PM   #25
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My method: home made slide hammer.

Find a bolt with a hex head just small enough to fit inside. Put two nuts on it with washers in between.

Take a section of coat hanger wire, double it up, and smash it securely between the washers and tighten it down.

Take something heavy with a hole in it, like a diving weight or even a bench vice. The heavier the better.

Twist some washers on the other end of the coat hanger wires so the heavy object can't slide off.

Hammer against the washers with the hex head bolt pulling out on the bearing. Work your way around the perimeter.

Also, PB blaster.
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