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Old 11-01-2003, 01:29 PM   #1
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Ok, would love some advice.

I have an 83 240 glt turbo coupe, b21ft 280+miles on it.
I have been using Kendall 10-30.

What is the best oil on you're opinion for my application.
I do not want to go synthetic, will start that when I rebuild.

Would love to change it today....Winter is coming (oregon)

What is you're favoriate oil? Why?
Being a turbo, what should I look for?

Please, Would love a nice long thread explaining oil to those of
us who want to learn.

Keep a smile on....appreciate the help my friends.

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Old 11-01-2003, 01:37 PM   #2
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Ok, would love some advice.

I have an 83 240 glt turbo coupe, b21ft 280+miles on it.
I have been using Kendall 10-30.

What is the best oil on you're opinion for my application.
I do not want to go synthetic, will start that when I rebuild.

Would love to change it today....Winter is coming (oregon)

What is you're favoriate oil? Why?
Being a turbo, what should I look for?

Please, Would love a nice long thread explaining oil to those of
us who want to learn.

Keep a smile on....appreciate the help my friends.

Drew
castrol Syntec (synthetic blend) its been good to me. If you dont even wanna go blend, try some Rotella T
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Old 11-01-2003, 01:54 PM   #3
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Rotella is nice shiz.. they sell it at walmart for like 7 bucks for 1 gallon of it
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Old 11-01-2003, 02:01 PM   #4
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What about 10/30 or 10/40 for turbo applications and winter viscosity?

Is there an oil thread on here....I cannot find it.

Would love to know all there is about our oils.

oh yeah

Have a great day and thanks for the reply's

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Old 11-01-2003, 02:15 PM   #5
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In severe conditions, 10-30 will resist breakdown over time better than 10-40.
I would strongly recommend synthetic for a turbo anyway.
I use Valvoline petroleum in 2 cars, Mobil 1 in 2 cars. I use NAPA brand at school, and most of the family fleet I maintain uses Valvoline or Mobil petroleum. I use Mobil petroleum for break-in oil when I build an engine, too. High detergent.
There aren't many bad oils. Pick a well-known brand name and use it.
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Old 11-01-2003, 02:17 PM   #6
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In severe conditions, 10-30 will resist breakdown over time better than 10-40.
I would strongly recommend synthetic for a turbo anyway.
I use Valvoline petroleum in 2 cars, Mobil 1 in 2 cars. I use NAPA brand at school, and most of the family fleet I maintain uses Valvoline or Mobil petroleum. I use Mobil petroleum for break-in oil when I build an engine, too. High detergent.
There aren't many bad oils. Pick a well-known brand name and use it.
Also, I heard switching brands all the time isnt a good idea either. Correct?
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Old 11-01-2003, 02:24 PM   #7
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Guess why I am curious about a synthetic switch in such a high mile car suddenly...I have heard horror stories from some that have switched to synthetic and having major engine problems, as in piston damages and "gunking" ports and other vital parts.

Could they be wrong? Blaming their problems on oils?

Then again...what the hell do I know....Just want to start an interesting thread.

Thanks for imputting people...

Hey every watch horsepower tv on Spike tv saturday mornings?
Fun stuff.
If you are one of those ford guys. Although good information on lots of stuff applicable to our volvos.
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Old 11-01-2003, 03:02 PM   #8
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Guess why I am curious about a synthetic switch in such a high mile car suddenly...I have heard horror stories from some that have switched to synthetic and having major engine problems, as in piston damages and "gunking" ports and other vital parts.

Could they be wrong? Blaming their problems on oils?

Then again...what the hell do I know....Just want to start an interesting thread.

Thanks for imputting people...

Hey every watch horsepower tv on Spike tv saturday mornings?
Fun stuff.
If you are one of those ford guys. Although good information on lots of stuff applicable to our volvos.
I switched to semi synthetic becuase my car is an 82, and thats the year they started using synthetic compatible gaskets and such. Even tho the book says synthetic is OK, im going to go semi before I go full.
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Old 11-01-2003, 09:36 PM   #9
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Change brands all you want. As long as it's quality, no problem.
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Old 11-01-2003, 09:38 PM   #10
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Could they be wrong? Blaming their problems on oils?
Yes, they might. People blame all sorts of things for their shoddy maintenance.
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Old 11-01-2003, 09:41 PM   #11
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Old 11-01-2003, 10:23 PM   #12
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quaker state is the worst oil you can put in a motor in my opinion.
I like castrol oils better, thinking about putting synthetic in my car
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quaker state is the worst oil you can put in a motor in my opinion.
I like castrol oils better, thinking about putting synthetic in my car
yeh, my moms running quaker state in her Volvo, came from Wal Mart, smells like ass, but it seems to be lubricating. Im gonna put some rotella in hers next time.
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Old 11-01-2003, 11:01 PM   #14
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[quote:6321b27942="240Psycho"]quaker state is the worst oil you can put in a motor in my opinion.
I like castrol oils better, thinking about putting synthetic in my car
yeh, my moms running quaker state in her Volvo, came from Wal Mart, smells like ass, but it seems to be lubricating. Im gonna put some rotella in hers next time.[/quote:6321b27942]
no i would take it out now, I have seen what happens to engines that run on quaker state. My brother opened up a ford v8 with less then 100 thousand miles and there was just this horrible layer of crappy oil over every thing. It was stringy and some of it looked like it was hard. Even the cam shaft was dull from the oil.
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Old 11-01-2003, 11:03 PM   #15
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[quote:3fd3cc4c1b="KLowD9x"][quote:3fd3cc4c1b="240Psycho"]quaker state is the worst oil you can put in a motor in my opinion.
I like castrol oils better, thinking about putting synthetic in my car
yeh, my moms running quaker state in her Volvo, came from Wal Mart, smells like ass, but it seems to be lubricating. Im gonna put some rotella in hers next time.[/quote:3fd3cc4c1b]
no i would take it out now, I have seen what happens to engines that run on quaker state. My brother opened up a ford v8 with less then 100 thousand miles and there was just this horrible layer of crappy oil over every thing. It was stringy and some of it looked like it was hard. Even the cam shaft was dull from the oil.[/quote:3fd3cc4c1b]

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Old 11-01-2003, 11:03 PM   #16
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I use Castrol and Mobil 1 synthetic blends. Never had any bad experiences with either. Never tried quaker state or rotella. Mobil 1 synthetic blend claims to have stuff in it to help condition the engine seals. Are there any full synthetic oils that can condition your old engine seals enough so that you can use the oil without worrying about old seals leaking?
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Old 11-01-2003, 11:30 PM   #17
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I never liked quaker state but now they are owned by pennzoil and it seems to be the exact same thing in only in a green bottle as pennzoil so It seems to be what I'm using latley. I'd rather use full synthetic but I change my oil at highly regular intervals so It would get far too expensive to use synthetic and since I change it so much I don't really consider it nessascary.
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I always praise shell rotella but discout auto had none last time and I bought castrol and the castrol seem to not get dark as fast as the shell rotella. same grade. I use a fram or puralator filter and every oil change a STP oil treatment. I clean the TB and flame trap just before changing the oil
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I used vavoline synthetic in my dads van and that good oil but would be a waste to use in my volvo as the engine has too much wear. 200k+ and from new oil change every four months and engine is in top shape
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Old 11-02-2003, 01:28 AM   #19
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I use Mobil1 10w30 on my turbo car. The volvo will most likely have it too. I love the oil.
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Old 11-02-2003, 10:20 PM   #20
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I always use synthetic, especially in a turbo..Think of how it sits in a scortching hot turbo after you turn off the engine even after letting it sit to cool off awhile...Just found Mobil 1 made for European cars that is like 0-40 wt.recommended for Porsches, BMW, and all turbo applications, at Schucks/Checker/Kragen. Good stuff Maynard!
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Old 11-03-2003, 12:34 AM   #21
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If your oil seals are not leaky, you could do an engine flush and switch to synthetic with not too much trouble. The main problem I know of with switching to synthetic on a "high mileage" engine is that old seals may start to leak more if they've been relying on sludge to hold in the oil. The synthetic will clean out a lot of the sludge that's built up inside the engine. I think this is a big reason why oil consumption increases right after switching to synthetic, as the junk gets burned off.

If you stay with petroleum oil, don't use grades with wide variations like 20W-50, which will really gum up under high heat. If you wanted to do some research, you could find out things like the flash point for hot performance and pour point for cold performance.
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Old 11-03-2003, 01:35 AM   #22
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OT: im in portland to and i also have a 83 turbo
now on topic, when i did my last oil change i went to oil can henrys and they said that 20w-50 is the factory sugested oil, is there a better all around good oil that i should be using? im looking for a weight, not necessarly a brand
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now on topic, when i did my last oil change i went to oil can henrys and they said that 20w-50 is the factory sugested oil, is there a better all around good oil that i should be using? im looking for a weight, not necessarly a brand
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You might use a 20W-50 in a very hot climate, or if you were racing and would be building up a lot of heat.

In Oregon, 10W-30 should work just fine if the engine is in good shape.
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Old 11-03-2003, 04:05 AM   #24
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As suggested above, main things are 1. Use name brand oils 2. Change regularly 3-5k miles (or less if you choose). I use 20-50 in the summer on high mileage cars and would use 10-30 in a cold climate. Mixing oils is not a big deal. Synthetic does tend to clean the sludge out a bit which can cause leaks to appear.
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To my .02$ in on this. I changed my turbo over to Mobil 1 at 165k miles. The oil consumption dropped by half. Now with 291k miles no sign of wearing out. The motor does have some issues but none are with oil pressure. When I replaced the head gasket at 275k miles. The cylinder honing still looked great with no wear ridge at the tops of the cylinders. Amazing stuff that synthetic. I bought my car with 120k miles and used Kendall GT1 until changing over to synthetic. I don't think the Kendall GT1 oil is rated for turbo use nowadays.

I've used the Valvoline blend and Valvoline racing and I was happy with their oil products, too.

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