home register FAQ memberlist calendar

Go Back   Turbobricks Forums > Mechanical > maintenance & nonperformance

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 07-03-2018, 02:43 PM   #1
$te4dyBrickin'
Board Member
 
$te4dyBrickin''s Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Where you are
Default Intake Hose vs. PS Pump Belt

Originally posted in "What Did You Do To Your Ride/Car Today
http://forums.turbobricks.com/showth...33#post5820633 post #5472
Posting here so I can read without signing in

So im just looking for some insight on an intake hose that is getting cut in to by my power steering pump belt. All my motor mounts are new, but the intake box itself can move around quite some distance. That includes straight on over to the PS pump belt. I have already "duct tape welded" the hole that was originally there when I first got this econobox. Fortunately it's air being drawn in before the volumeter, just unfiltered. :/

I now see that it continues to do so..... so I zip tied the hose to the battery to pull it back from the belt and also reduce the amount of traveling distance it has.


The "duct tape welding" is only temp until a can get a new hose. I want an OEM one but im open to suggestions considering the fact that everything and its mom is NLA.... educate me! TIA
__________________
Lovin 240's!
1979 Volvo 245 DL (daily)
$te4dyBrickin' is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-03-2018, 03:30 PM   #2
dl242gt
Can play the blues
 
dl242gt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: S NJ, a suburb of Phila.
Default

Have you tried a shorter power steering belt? It may swing the the pump and adjustment down a bit so it isn't so close. For example a power steering belt may have the generic size of 17365. The last three digits is the belt length. So you can try a 17360 belt which is a half inch shorter or go all the way and use a 17355 belt which would be an inch shorter. It is what I did on my 82 turbo.
dl242gt is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-03-2018, 04:37 PM   #3
$te4dyBrickin'
Board Member
 
$te4dyBrickin''s Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Where you are
Default

^^I appreciate the response! So I'm going to repeat what you said but using the current dimensions of my PS belt. I have, from Roadmax, a number 17425ap. The 425 part of that is literally the belt length. I never knew that! Learning something new everyday!!! Anyways, so I should try to find a 17420 or 415? Awesome! I'll be out on the hunt.
Do you happen to have any suggestions for an intake hose, too? When im searching around the interweb I keep finding hoses with extra nipples on them for other vacuum lines. Being super K jet, my intake hose has no extra vacuum hoses connected to it. Its only from the intake box straight to the volumeter…. that's it. On the Volvo parts webstore, the part# is 463290, and of course, NLA. (Yet the one with the extra vac. nips are still kickin it)
$te4dyBrickin' is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-03-2018, 05:17 PM   #4
dl242gt
Can play the blues
 
dl242gt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: S NJ, a suburb of Phila.
Default

Yes you got it. It is the belt length with the first two digits in inches and the last digit is tenths of an inch. The lambda kjet cars use a round hose and the kjet non lambda use a different hose with the extra nipples on there for a vacuum amplifier. So any kjet lambda n/a 240 uses your hose.

Since the original is no longer available. You can make up your own using two coupler hoses and a pipe in the same size as the original. The coupler hoses come with straight or 45 and 90 degree pieces so you can make a run from the air filter box to the air flow sensor.

If you have to have a Volvo one I'd put a thread in wanted.
dl242gt is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-03-2018, 09:48 PM   #5
$te4dyBrickin'
Board Member
 
$te4dyBrickin''s Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Where you are
Default

Already! Guess I'll just have to fab up an intake hose. On another note, after all the cleaning I did today and yet the surging came back..... that's right. Came. Back. I cleaned my fuel filter again and yet it continues to surge...… 70's to 93 J - land cars, I'm coming back. This Volvo is whooping my ass royally. Seems as if The Land of the Rising Sun is better suited to me than I thought. That sucks, I really dig these Volvo's..... but damn bro
$te4dyBrickin' is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-04-2018, 02:22 AM   #6
$te4dyBrickin'
Board Member
 
$te4dyBrickin''s Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Where you are
Default

Not giving up.... does anyone have an idea of what this little pin thingy could be in between the fuel distributor and the volumeter? (circled)


I had noticed that it was turned slightly counter-clockwise from its original position.... before my hand collided with it will dealing with that PITA of a plunger... thingy. In the photo I have it turned back to roughly where it was before. Im not sure if it did anything though seeing as my day was ruined and I just wanted to leave the whip alone.

When I turn this pin, I do feel the slightest of resistance. It also never makes a move during normal vehicle operation. Could this be the mixture screw thingy? I understand that its supposed to be a 3mm? allen wrench, but this leads down into some insert.... hard to explain. Better if I can get a pic. I'm not finding any vacuum leaks around the area I was playing in today (now yesterday) and the only thing that was off was this pin. The car magically got a rough idle and some surging after I had did some routine cleaning on it.
$te4dyBrickin' is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-04-2018, 12:57 PM   #7
$te4dyBrickin'
Board Member
 
$te4dyBrickin''s Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Where you are
Default

Here's a better pic of what this pin goes in to


I have no clue if that's some sort of retrofit mixture screw thingy? Any input?
$te4dyBrickin' is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-04-2018, 01:06 PM   #8
2manyturbos
Moderator
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Monroe, OR USA
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by $te4dyBrickin' View Post
Here's a better pic of what this pin goes in to


I have no clue if that's some sort of retrofit mixture screw thingy? Any input?
That is where you adjust the mixture using a 3mm allen wrench. It has to be removed in order for the air meter to work properly.
2manyturbos is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-04-2018, 01:45 PM   #9
$te4dyBrickin'
Board Member
 
$te4dyBrickin''s Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Where you are
Default

^^ Awesome! Ima look into it
$te4dyBrickin' is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-04-2018, 03:48 PM   #10
Jack
Banned
 
Jack's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: The Ass Cheek Of History
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by $te4dyBrickin' View Post
^^ Awesome! Ima look into it
Inb4 my car doesn’t idle anymore
Jack is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-04-2018, 05:15 PM   #11
$te4dyBrickin'
Board Member
 
$te4dyBrickin''s Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Where you are
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack View Post
Inb4 my car doesn’t idle anymore
Funny you say that! Fortunately the rain has halted me from f-ing up anything for the day. Before the rain though, I gave the little pin a few slight tugs and it seems as if it's actually in there. Like for real for real. Idk.... plus now I have to defend my fuse box with a sweater to soak up water coming in thru my windshield. Not the worst thing ever doe (had a 91 Cressida that leaked from the sunroof, straight down by the ecu onto the floorboard)
$te4dyBrickin' is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-05-2018, 09:55 AM   #12
$te4dyBrickin'
Board Member
 
$te4dyBrickin''s Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Where you are
Default

Ok so a bright sunny day today... time to royally F something up. I did some more searching about that idle screw. the wire/pin thingy is actually a factory plug for the adjustment screw that's prolly been there since the land before time. Im guessing that this pin doesn't actually do anything to the AFR mix soooooooo, im ruling that out for now. I guess im going to go back in between the throttle body and air meter to look even closer for vac leaks.
$te4dyBrickin' is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-05-2018, 01:15 PM   #13
$te4dyBrickin'
Board Member
 
$te4dyBrickin''s Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Where you are
Default

oooooooooooook, I'm here to shut this down. Turns out my stupid ass slightly disconnected a connector for the frequency valve. Actually, idk if that's exactly what it's for but it use to be that when I rev'd the engine (with the throttle pulley thingy) you could hear a high frequency pitch that seems to match the throttle input. That had disappeared the day before yesterday and I didn't notice anything until today when I was making sure everything was tidy up.... everything. Plugged that back in, got a high pitch sound again, and the surging seemed to die off as I drove about 10mi. Once I got back to my subdivision, the surging in low 1st, 2nd, and 3rd had also took a hike. Im glad to say the trusty Volvo is back in action, truly.

I also wanted to say something about that pin. This is probably a figment of my imagination, but as I kept turning the pin clockwise, it almost seemed as if some of the surging was also being nursed. BUT, being that the mixture was never off before and that there was no change in the amount of raw gas smell coming out the exhaust or looming around the car, it more than likely did nothing. It was completely mental.

Im not messing with anything else for a while now. I'm going to the skatepark and that's final..... wish it was Burnside!!!!
$te4dyBrickin' is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-08-2018, 06:57 PM   #14
MasterBlaster
Board Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Port Coquitlam
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by $te4dyBrickin' View Post
I also wanted to say something about that pin. This is probably a figment of my imagination, but as I kept turning the pin clockwise, it almost seemed as if some of the surging was also being nursed.
Definitely a figment. It's just a rubber plug with a handle. Looks like this:

__________________

1990 740GL, now in extra-small economy size.
464,000 km so far...
MasterBlaster is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-05-2018, 03:11 PM   #15
dl242gt
Can play the blues
 
dl242gt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: S NJ, a suburb of Phila.
Default

Glad you got it sorted out. Always good to double or even triple check what you work on. The kjet system is straight forward and a good setup for diy work. Hope that shorter belt works for you.
dl242gt is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:16 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2018, vBulletin Solutions Inc.