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Old 03-22-2017, 11:36 AM   #776
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Old 03-22-2017, 11:38 AM   #777
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Old 03-22-2017, 10:44 PM   #778
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Old 03-22-2017, 10:47 PM   #779
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She had these sweet springs under her. The guy must have lived on a bumpy road as the exhaust and oil pan were smashed. Anyway, I'm pretty sure I can return the IPD springs.




Do the smaller diameter springs allow for more strut adjustment (camber / caster)? Assuming the mount is adjustable. Seems like the mount diameter would be nearly the same as the OE spring, therefore a net gain of nil.
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Old 03-23-2017, 01:27 PM   #781
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We did get the snow up here yeah, the very northern tip of that big system. It all melted away in the days after, but we're back well below freezing now, the jet stream has shifted.

I'm kind of an environmentalist too, insofar as I'm taking a slew of geography classes that environmental studies kids also have to take, and my carbon footprint has been offset about 17 times over from all the trees I've planted
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Old 03-23-2017, 02:51 PM   #782
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Do the smaller diameter springs allow for more strut adjustment (camber / caster)? Assuming the mount is adjustable. Seems like the mount diameter would be nearly the same as the OE spring, therefore a net gain of nil.
The above is the ghetto or "kyote" way of doing coil overs. You take a 2.5" diameter spring which you can buy from summit in anything from 100lbs to 800lbs. You take a piece of PVC plastic pipe and cut it in half, since it won't slide over the strut tube, and then slide the coil spring over the strut tube. The PVC is meant to keep the coil centered so when you lower the car back down - it'll be uncompressed with the car in the air - the spring centers itself on the strut mount.

There is no adjustability in this set up but if you just want to change to a stiffer spring/strut set up this gets the job mostly done.
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Old 03-23-2017, 05:48 PM   #783
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We did get the snow up here yeah, the very northern tip of that big system. It all melted away in the days after, but we're back well below freezing now, the jet stream has shifted.

I'm kind of an environmentalist too, insofar as I'm taking a slew of geography classes that environmental studies kids also have to take, and my carbon footprint has been offset about 17 times over from all the trees I've planted
Good for you. Here in the PNW, trees are an agricultural product and we are always planting and harvesting.
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Old 03-23-2017, 05:50 PM   #784
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The above is the ghetto or "kyote" way of doing coil overs. You take a 2.5" diameter spring which you can buy from summit in anything from 100lbs to 800lbs. You take a piece of PVC plastic pipe and cut it in half, since it won't slide over the strut tube, and then slide the coil spring over the strut tube. The PVC is meant to keep the coil centered so when you lower the car back down - it'll be uncompressed with the car in the air - the spring centers itself on the strut mount.

There is no adjustability in this set up but if you just want to change to a stiffer spring/strut set up this gets the job mostly done.
Ah, I see the PVC now. Very happy with my IPD springs. Picked up the last few steering goodies from IPD today. I'm hopeful that the Beast will be a one-handed highway flyer.
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Old 03-23-2017, 07:37 PM   #785
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Further thoughts on the discount coil over:

Without a bump stop, full compression will result in the aforementioned coil bind?

Without the conventional coil over cut down strut housing and short shock insert, there is no additional wheel travel?
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Old 03-23-2017, 07:47 PM   #786
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Coil bind is when the coil rubs on something and is not free to provide it's designed resistance to motion.
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Old 03-23-2017, 07:54 PM   #787
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Coil bind is when the coil rubs on something and is not free to provide it's designed resistance to motion.
No, coil bind is when the spring is fully compressed, to where the coils bottom out on one another, which more commonly happens in valve springs:


In the case of suspension, usually the shock is what bottoms out much before the coils will ever bind. And that can potentially damage the valving in the shock, depending on its construction. And typically when you lower a car, you lose overall suspension travel. That's what will happen with the short strut method.
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Old 03-24-2017, 04:38 PM   #788
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Old 03-25-2017, 12:01 AM   #789
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Old 03-25-2017, 12:33 AM   #790
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Nailed it.
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Old 03-25-2017, 11:44 PM   #791
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Had a neat experience this evening. I can still remember the first 928 I saw as a teen in Michigan entering I-75 from Vienna road. My neighbor sublets a room to an older guy that drives a nice example. And tonight I got to go for a ride. Wow. Awesome car. The handling, the sound, the brakes, the look. So cool.

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Old 03-26-2017, 07:09 PM   #792
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New PS rack is in. Seems to have solved the harrowing steering wander of the manual unit.

To do before Davis:
  • Install new thermo housing and seal (leak).
  • Change oil and filter / install temp sender drain plug.
  • Bed liner rocker panels.
  • Tool kit / spares.
  • Alignment.

I think we're in a good place. May take a run to the coast next weekend if the rain stops to put a few miles on it.


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Old 03-26-2017, 08:07 PM   #793
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Looking good! I am gonna bed line my rocker panels too..right after I fill the holes from that long trim piece...
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