home register FAQ memberlist calendar

Go Back   Turbobricks Forums > Mechanical > performance & modifications

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 08-27-2018, 07:33 AM   #1
Marvelous3
Who engineered this?
 
Marvelous3's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Atlanta
Default +T cam shaft with manual tranny

I have a b cam in the grey car right now. I'm in on the big valve kit with yoshi sprangs so I was going to swap cams while the head is apart. So, ipd turbo cam and send it? Kl racing?

Plan is for a 15g turbo but might/probably go up to a t3 super 60 or t3/4 50 trim.
__________________

1990 240dl Kaplhenke Coilover Daily
1991 245+16 Valve Turbo Microsquirt
Need Hyundai or Genesis parts? PM me for Genuine Hyundai or Genesis parts
Marvelous3 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-27-2018, 09:29 AM   #2
photoman327
Board Member
 
photoman327's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: North Alabama
Default

IPD is a good street cam and the one going in my b21FT.
photoman327 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-27-2018, 07:12 PM   #3
dl242gt
Can play the blues
 
dl242gt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: S NJ, a suburb of Phila.
Default

Or since you are going to use big valves why not a bit more lift like a enem V16? They supply it as a turbo grind or n/a.
dl242gt is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-27-2018, 10:09 PM   #4
Marvelous3
Who engineered this?
 
Marvelous3's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Atlanta
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by dl242gt View Post
Or since you are going to use big valves why not a bit more lift like a enem V16? They supply it as a turbo grind or n/a.
I'm not opposed to that either. I'm not sure what the "cool" kids are doing for 8valve cams.
Marvelous3 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-28-2018, 12:15 PM   #5
dl242gt
Can play the blues
 
dl242gt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: S NJ, a suburb of Phila.
Default

Not many people do anything with 8v turbo aftermarket cams. Even though there is some good stuff to chose from.

Most everyone just swaps to an LS.
dl242gt is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-28-2018, 12:47 PM   #6
Marvelous3
Who engineered this?
 
Marvelous3's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Atlanta
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by dl242gt View Post
Not many people do anything with 8v turbo aftermarket cams. Even though there is some good stuff to chose from.

Most everyone just swaps to an LS.
I mean, that's probably in my future once I blow up one of these cars and it makes perfect sense why people go LS. Why spend 1k on a stupid 8v Volvo head when you can get an entire LQ4 from the yard for that same money.
Marvelous3 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-28-2018, 01:13 PM   #7
dl242gt
Can play the blues
 
dl242gt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: S NJ, a suburb of Phila.
Default

Oh I wasn't putting it down. I was just commenting on a prevailing swap. I like swaps. It's a fine way to go. After all power costs money either way you slice it.

I'm happy with a redblock. So I make suggestions I know have been good for me. I have 135k miles on a V15 in my n/a wagon. I have about 86k miles on my turbo with a V15 turbo cam in it. Good stuff.
dl242gt is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-29-2018, 08:12 AM   #8
VB242
Mojo Stealer
 
VB242's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Virginia Beach
Default

My ipd turbo cam runs out of steam by 65-6600 rpms but works great up to that point same as V15 turbo cam off the previous post.
__________________
1980 primer JDM flares franken-242DL, 1989 silver 780 sienna rear spring nivomat delete
VB242 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-29-2018, 03:17 PM   #9
blkaplan
50 shades of beige
 
blkaplan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Rockville, MD
Default

8v 4 lyfe. you aint getting a driving running 240 with a ls based motor in it for 1k.
__________________
www.BEIGEPOWER.com
Kaplhenke Racing Facebook
Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkKratoz View Post
The only safe bet is Ben.©
blkaplan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-29-2018, 03:21 PM   #10
t8fanning
8v are still cool, right?
 
t8fanning's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Cedar Hills, UT
Default

I use an RSI stage 3. It makes pretty good power with my valves.
__________________
1982 242 Turbo.
t8fanning is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-29-2018, 03:30 PM   #11
Stiggy Pop
Board Member
 
Stiggy Pop's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Granville, MA
Default

RSI turbo 3 with a RSI head with 48/40 valves (cost well more than a grand too) and it's a rippa. If your truck motor don't have a turbo on it I'll hurt your feelings!

the RSI turbo 2 was a little less rev demanding and had a stock idle in a stock head, I'd consider a similar grind.
__________________
'79 242
943 pickup
Stiggy Pop is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-29-2018, 03:35 PM   #12
t8fanning
8v are still cool, right?
 
t8fanning's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Cedar Hills, UT
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Stiggy Pop View Post
If your truck motor don't have a turbo on it I'll hurt your feelings!
Exactly. I bet even some with turbos will have trouble.
t8fanning is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-29-2018, 03:39 PM   #13
Stiggy Pop
Board Member
 
Stiggy Pop's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Granville, MA
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by t8fanning View Post
Exactly. I bet even some with turbos will have trouble.
I'll stop derailing but a (friendly) older guy at a local cruise night came up to me while the car was idling and said "didn'tcha know you could have put a 5.0 in that instead of putting a muffler on your 4cyl"
Stiggy Pop is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-29-2018, 03:41 PM   #14
t8fanning
8v are still cool, right?
 
t8fanning's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Cedar Hills, UT
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Stiggy Pop View Post
I'll stop derailing but a (friendly) older guy at a local cruise night came up to me while the car was idling and said "didn'tcha know you could have put a 5.0 in that instead of putting a muffler on your 4cyl"
Lol. Tell that to the 2017 mustang 5.0 who was trying his best to catch me last week.

That is exactly the reason I still have an 8v. No one expects the tractor motor to do anything.
t8fanning is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-29-2018, 03:48 PM   #15
Marvelous3
Who engineered this?
 
Marvelous3's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Atlanta
Default

Does anyone still have specs on the RSI stage 3's? Maybe I'm remembering wrong but I thought RSI just copied something the Enem was already making.
Marvelous3 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-29-2018, 03:48 PM   #16
cosbySweater
Board Member
 
cosbySweater's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Monterey/Falun
Default

What are your goals
__________________
1979 Volvo 244DL 6.0/4l80e,8.8,Ms3x goldbox ecu and Mircrosquirt tcu, GTX4202r, 228/230cam, tbss intake, 11.4@123mph 9psi
1991 Volvo 245, Efan conversion, tcam, 4.10s, Aw71L
1982 Ford Fairmont Futura, 4.8/th400, 8.8, mircrosquirt, 7875 turbo, 228/230 cam, Project Cheap Thrills

Quote:
Originally Posted by bricktop420 View Post
Thank you very much everybody... i now feel sufficiently retarded and will go cry in the corner...
cosbySweater is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-29-2018, 04:08 PM   #17
Marvelous3
Who engineered this?
 
Marvelous3's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Atlanta
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by cosbySweater View Post
What are your goals
What do people normally say? 350whp!!!!!!!1 /s
Marvelous3 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-29-2018, 04:23 PM   #18
Stiggy Pop
Board Member
 
Stiggy Pop's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Granville, MA
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Marvelous3 View Post
Does anyone still have specs on the RSI stage 3's? Maybe I'm remembering wrong but I thought RSI just copied something the Enem was already making.
There's the dude out east of me in Mass who was profiling cams, I offered up my spare BNIB RSI 3 for him to spec out and he never answered
Stiggy Pop is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-29-2018, 05:23 PM   #19
dl242gt
Can play the blues
 
dl242gt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: S NJ, a suburb of Phila.
Default

Well talking about power bands above. The IPD turbo cam and V15 turbo cam are both 2000-6000 rpm powerband cams. So that is about right that the power starts going away at 6500 or so. The V16 shifts it up just a bit and give a nice bit more lift as well. Power band for V16 was 2500-6500 rpm.

But in general with street performance level flowed 8v head you get about another 1k rpms of power with a V15 in my experience. My engine easily spins to about 6800-7000 with power to the limit.
dl242gt is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-29-2018, 06:47 PM   #20
cosbySweater
Board Member
 
cosbySweater's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Monterey/Falun
Default

I will say this, taro on here had his car setup with a m46, 3.73 gears, a 15g and tcam with breakerless with the pin drilled out on a b21ft. Car was remarkably fun and easy to drive.
cosbySweater is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-30-2018, 11:31 AM   #21
Marvelous3
Who engineered this?
 
Marvelous3's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Atlanta
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by cosbySweater View Post
What are your goals
To seriously answer this though, my initial plans were to just +t with a 15g and orange tops, run 7psi, keep it as basic as possible. Then I was like, well since I'm swapping transmissions I might as well go t5. Since I'm swapping cams I might as well put bigger valves in and have the head worked on. I'm going to have to reroute the amm and get tloa chips so I might as well throw all that in the trash and microsquirt with ls coils. So this is quickly turning into a "since I'm doing xxx I might as well yyy". So that is what gets me to wanting a more racing cam than just a t or b cam.
Marvelous3 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-02-2018, 01:57 AM   #22
TracksideTurbos
Board Member
 
TracksideTurbos's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Eugene,Or.
Default

I personally like the penta H cam. Way more aggressive than the ipd turdbo cam (big waist of money). Better lobe separation (112°) and will pull to the 6500 mark no prob. Some may not like the lumpy idle. I love it. Makes the engine sound like there's actually an aggressive cam in it.
TracksideTurbos is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-02-2018, 06:12 PM   #23
dl242gt
Can play the blues
 
dl242gt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: S NJ, a suburb of Phila.
Default

That 112 lobe angle separation is why I like the V15 turbo cam better than the IPD cam. The IPD cam has 110 if I recall correctly and my V15 n/a cam uses 109. My cars have both types of V15 in them. So the IPD cam is kind of a compromise between a true cam ground for a turbo and n/a.

Last edited by dl242gt; 09-02-2018 at 06:12 PM.. Reason: a correction
dl242gt is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-16-2018, 11:36 PM   #24
Marvelous3
Who engineered this?
 
Marvelous3's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Atlanta
Default

So I got an Enem V16 turbo cam coming. More than what I was initially intending on spending for a cam but you gotta pay to play, or so they say.
Marvelous3 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-17-2018, 12:04 AM   #25
MDVLN
Kapitän Klugscheißer
 
MDVLN's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Varies
Default

big baller
MDVLN is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 03:16 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2018, vBulletin Solutions Inc.