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Old 11-01-2018, 09:58 PM   #1
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What input is there on using ceramic coating on piston tops?
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Friend did it on his SRT4 engine, no issue for years.

Snake oil? I don't know.
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What input is there on using ceramic coating on piston tops?
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How can you live without it?
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A few guys I knew ran them in lightly boosted SR and VG motors. Lowers temps slightly and keeps the heat off the crown. These were strictly road race cars though. I believe that it cannot handle high boost. I do know the top companies are Swain Tech and CP Carrillo. I'd have the skirts coated before I would do any fancy top coatings on a DD street car. Unless you're going to run 9k rpm all over town?
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How can you live without it?
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Old 11-01-2018, 11:50 PM   #6
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Mostly looking to keep the crown temperatures down.
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Mostly looking to keep the crown temperatures down.
If that's all you want, go with Swain Tech. You'd probably be out the door for around $200 for four pistons with coated skirts before shipping. I'm not sure if they do gold domes anymore. Those were pretty.
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If that's all you want, go with Swain Tech. You'd probably be out the door for around $200 for four pistons with coated skirts before shipping. I'm not sure if they do gold domes anymore. Those were pretty.
Swain and cerakote both get good reviews.
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Wouldn't squirters accomplish the lower crown temps as well?
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Wouldn't squirters accomplish the lower crown temps as well?
Yes...check out my other recent thread on squirters.
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Mostly looking to keep the crown temperatures down.
Down from what?
Gonna hop the motor way wicked?
Gonna up the comp to 11.3?

Why worry?
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Down from what?
Gonna hop the motor way wicked?
Gonna up the comp to 11.3?

Why worry?
The CVH has a rep for burning oil to sludge.
In any case the questions is not why I want it down, itís whether the coatings are reliable and work to do that.
Bonus question, anyone here ever apply them them selves?
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Old 11-02-2018, 11:33 AM   #13
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My S70 has ceramic coated Wiseco pistons in it and I've had zero issues out of them. I haven't had the head off since the build, but it's been 100k+ miles.
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The CVH has a rep for burning oil to sludge.
In any case the questions is not why I want it down, itís whether the coatings are reliable and work to do that.
Bonus question, anyone here ever apply them them selves?
Huh? Oil is outside the cylinder..Crown is inside the cylinder..Coolant jackets full of coolant..Sludge? Where? In the head?

How many miles did that thing go? (with bone stock un-coated pistons)

Hain't understanding..as usual.
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The CVH has a rep for burning oil to sludge.
In any case the questions is not why I want it down, itís whether the coatings are reliable and work to do that.
Bonus question, anyone here ever apply them them selves?
Why apply yourself when you can have a workmanship warranty? You screw up a piston, that's on you. Company screws up a piston that's on them.
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Huh? Oil is outside the cylinder..Crown is inside the cylinder..Coolant jackets full of coolant..Sludge? Where? In the head?

How many miles did that thing go? (with bone stock un-coated pistons)

Hain't understanding..as usual.
80k before the skirts and underside sludged.
Frozen rings and dropped valve seats.

Known issue.
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Why apply yourself when you can have a workmanship warranty? You screw up a piston, that's on you. Company screws up a piston that's on them.
Because I LIKE doing things myself.
Thatís enough of a reason even if the 500 dollars I donít feel like spending isnít.
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I did the piston tops and the combustion. chamber in my big chevy. Why? Because heat that doesn't escape into the oil or coolant gets turned into powa! That and it looks bad ass I also did the moly coating on the skirts, as far as at home application meh I think it's like the nickysyl that yamaha and ford uses on aluminum engines, plasma arc sprayed I also had my rear end gears and four speed gears mikronited and now they look like chrome.why? to reduce friction.as far as long-term not sure but I plan on ass loads of nitrous,and this all for sure makes up for my small penis
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The CVH has a rep for burning oil to sludge.
Shouldn't this discussion be happening in off topic or a ford forum?

I was under the impression that this was a Volvo forum.

Oh well....
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Good point. Moved to OT.
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*open season*
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Because I LIKE doing things myself.
Thatís enough of a reason even if the 500 dollars I donít feel like spending isnít.
$500? You getting the happy ending?
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Shouldn't this discussion be happening in off topic or a ford forum?

I was under the impression that this was a Volvo forum.

Oh well....
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Good point. Moved to OT.
The question was not about the engine until JVL took it off topic.
The question was about the technology.
A technology that applies to Volvo and any other engine.

It is a common modification for forced induction motors to reduce oil thermal loading AND increase detonation resistance as well as piston durability.

It's only off because JVL had to drag it there.
If JVL can just confine himself to the topic (unlikely) than there's no reason this can't live in performance...it is after all a performance modification.
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I would agree that if kept on topic this is a valid discussion for the performance area, which let’s be honest is lacking for good conversations these days.
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This focus better be +20hp after all those $1,000s you're investing.
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