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Old 07-17-2019, 06:17 PM   #26
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Awesome, hopefully the donor transmission isn't toast. How does the AW71 hold up against the M47?
The AW can put up with a lot more than the manual, but a stock turbo would be fine behind an m47.
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Old 07-17-2019, 06:18 PM   #27
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M47 is usually fine for up to 10 psi. It does make the car more fun to drive but would suck if it broke and you had to source another one.
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Old 07-17-2019, 07:01 PM   #28
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M47 is usually fine for up to 10 psi. It does make the car more fun to drive but would suck if it broke and you had to source another one.
Yup, Iíve had an m47 behind a +t for like 4 years i think. Itís totally fine just be nice to 3rd gear.
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Old 07-18-2019, 11:49 AM   #29
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Yup, Iíve had an m47 behind a +t for like 4 years i think. Itís totally fine just be nice to 3rd gear.
I've read that third gear gets shredded on these. Is there a fix for it other than a lighter foot? I think I'd be alright though, the B230FT I plan on swapping won't be anything crazy, just the pretty vanilla upgrades. It'll still be my DD.
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Old 07-18-2019, 12:16 PM   #30
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I've read that third gear gets shredded on these. Is there a fix for it other than a lighter foot? I think I'd be alright though, the B230FT I plan on swapping won't be anything crazy, just the pretty vanilla upgrades. It'll still be my DD.
Use a stock clutch. The clutch will usually slip before the transmission breaks.
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Old 07-18-2019, 12:20 PM   #31
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Use a stock clutch. The clutch will usually slip before the transmission breaks.
Hm I didnít know this. My clutch does pretty well, holds second gear burnouts. I figured that was enough torque to kill 3rd, but obviously I havenít tried.
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Old 07-18-2019, 07:46 PM   #32
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The aux shaft probably doesn't have teeth to spin the dist. You will likely have to swap the shaft.
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Old 07-19-2019, 10:14 AM   #33
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The aux shaft probably doesn't have teeth to spin the dist. You will likely have to swap the shaft.
Instead of messing with sourcing a distributor and potentially the AUX shaft, would it be more beneficial to just go wasted spark with a coil pack instead? It's supposed to run more efficiently anyways.
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Old 07-19-2019, 10:18 AM   #34
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You can use the auxiliary shaft and distributor from your 240 engine. Wasted spark is ideal but your adding to the expense/time of project. You can always do wasted spark later on.
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Old 07-19-2019, 10:24 AM   #35
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You can use the auxiliary shaft and distributor from your 240 engine. Wasted spark is ideal but your adding to the expense/time of project. You can always do wasted spark later on.
I see your point. Right now I am collecting parts for this project and am able to pick up the needed equipment for wasted spark when I find them. My thought process is to do it right one time and in doing so, keep the bay clean without removing the block mounted dizzy plug and having a distributor floating there. The B230FT is in another car currently which I can work on while still DD'ing my N/A 240 so I think I'd be okay to do this.
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Old 07-20-2019, 10:45 PM   #36
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Throttle switch wiring is also different between NA & T - one has full load enrichment, the other doesn't. Can't recall offhand which is which, so you may have to either add or remove a wire from the TPS to ECU...
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Throttle switch wiring is also different between NA & T - one has full load enrichment, the other doesn't. Can't recall offhand which is which, so you may have to either add or remove a wire from the TPS to ECU...
Nah you donít have to do that. Leave the TPS wiring as it is and it works fine.
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Old 07-21-2019, 03:07 PM   #38
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Ass long as our ECU is 9xx it does not matter expert hater.




Also I ran 12.61 with M46 and stock clutch. So hate me hardest mid way boy. I've stripped more turd gears then rears but broke 5 axles at the spline.


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^ yup. I’ve turbo’d roughly 3 2.4 240s and have never ever snipped a WOT wire and have had 0 issues. Also done a 2.2 & Chrysler ignition car without snipping that wire. Still no issues.


No reason for anyone to ever run a 5xx ecu on a +t. 9xx are easily available and cheap.
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The aux shaft probably doesn't have teeth to spin the dist. You will likely have to swap the shaft.
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Take the b230FT

Swap in a distributor from an 83-93 240 and use the accompanying intermediate shaft. This gives you a chance to replace all of the front seals and timing belt for that leak free goodness.

Did your scope tell you that?
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Old 08-04-2019, 01:13 AM   #43
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Alright so I have a 91 940 I can pull from. Do I need both the EZK and ECU or just the EZK? Gonna pull the exhaust manifold from this one too.
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You will need both ecus along with injectors from an 850 turbo
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You will need both ecus along with injectors from an 850 turbo
Great, thank you for following up!

Do the injectors need to be from a turbo 850, or just any 850?
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Great, thank you for following up!

Do the injectors need to be from a turbo 850, or just any 850?
Turbo. They flow ~ the same as the stock Turbo injectors, but dont require wiring modifications for the 240 harness.
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Excellent, thank you. I'll keep a look out for these injectors. Is the 850 the only model that came with orange tops like you're referring to?
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You need high impedance injectors in the 300cc/min range. The 850 ones are the easiest to find TBQH.
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Excellent, thank you. I'll keep a look out for these injectors. Is the 850 the only model that came with orange tops like you're referring to?
Pretty sure any of the fwd/awd 5 cylinder turbo injectors will work fine. 850, S70, any of the XCs, etc. I have more modern white bodied injectors from a newer model. Canít remember which one, but if you canít find any they are super cheap for sale on here.
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Pretty sure any of the fwd/awd 5 cylinder turbo injectors will work fine. 850, S70, any of the XCs, etc. I have more modern white bodied injectors from a newer model. Canít remember which one, but if you canít find any they are super cheap for sale on here.
The big bodied orange ones were only on 94/some 95's.

With a redblock, it doesnt matter. None of the 850 injectors have the correct spray pattern for the port but it doesnt really matter.

The closest match would be the 94/95 ones because they have similar opening times, if you care about calibration at all.
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