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Old 03-08-2011, 12:23 AM   #101
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Looks like somebody who thought they knew what they were doin was the last one to work on that head........get it cleaned up, put some new shiny parts in, and boost it.

Dont worry about a tight squish on a 16v, theres not much there to worry about like on an 8v.
Im not to worried about tight squish PERIOD!!! My worries is just having the pistons in speck. I would like to just get stock turbo pistons and call it a day.

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Now wait, you went forged rods, and are not going to go forged pistons? Whats your plan for this motor? EMS? power levels and turbo type? Dont kid yourself, I have made like 4 jumps forward since I started.
I know, it seems crazy to half and half but I can see spending $600 on forged pistons when I dont plan on going over 350hp. I plan on doing lh2.4/ MS till I get a tuner. Turbo is the one off of Ben Weavers 242, the vurbo.


Im pretty sure i'll do a bunch of jumps I get it going.
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Old 03-08-2011, 10:28 AM   #102
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You'll get used to 350 hp quickly enough, then you'll want moAr!!!

Can you get E85 down there? Takes a little of the worry out of the tuning since it's so hard to get it to detonate.
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Old 03-08-2011, 08:27 PM   #103
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You'll get used to 350 hp quickly enough, then you'll want moAr!!!

Can you get E85 down there? Takes a little of the worry out of the tuning since it's so hard to get it to detonate.
E85 is like 40 minutes away from me, not worth it
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Old 03-08-2011, 09:14 PM   #104
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Def. not.
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Old 03-08-2011, 09:22 PM   #105
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Def. not.
still trying to wrap my head around these non existent pistons I havent ordered yet
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Old 03-09-2011, 04:06 AM   #106
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Sten Parner has a Kit of forged pistons and H-beams for 8000 swedish crowns..
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Old 03-09-2011, 04:04 PM   #107
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Talked more to roger my machine guy, $10 each to bore out the block. Look like I'm going .60 over stock pistons and found out that swiftjustice44 has a valve lapping machine made in like the pre WW11 days.

Hopefully by Monday or Tuesday I'll have a big giant box of internal stuff to Hand off amd get my block done
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Old 03-09-2011, 04:12 PM   #108
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still trying to wrap my head around these non existent pistons I havent ordered yet
Don't know what to tell you. I bought a set of overside pistons and had my 240K mile junkyard block (which still had some crosshatching showing) bored to match by the MS. No clue on the clearances needed. ON the 245's motor and the PV's motor, I just got assembled shot blocks back from the machine shop (pistons, rods, cranks installed).

I know my technical limits. I'm good bolting the rest of the thing together from that point.
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Old 03-09-2011, 07:56 PM   #109
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Don't know what to tell you. I bought a set of overside pistons and had my 240K mile junkyard block (which still had some crosshatching showing) bored to match by the MS. No clue on the clearances needed. ON the 245's motor and the PV's motor, I just got assembled shot blocks back from the machine shop (pistons, rods, cranks installed).

I know my technical limits. I'm good bolting the rest of the thing together from that point.
I talked to the Machinist and he said $10 to over bore per bore so I was like, Problem Solved!!! +.60mm pistons ordered along with all the bearings and stuff for the block. I have nothing in hand left to do till I get my freshly decked head back, lapped valves from switfjustice44.

All I need now is to order the Tial Wastegate, MS stuff, Getrag adapter plate from RSI, Clutch Disk, pressure plate, and a few other odds and ends..

I should probably make a list one of these days.
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Old 03-09-2011, 08:43 PM   #110
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Get your work on!
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Old 03-09-2011, 10:15 PM   #111
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Get your work on!
only if there were like 26 hours in a day and 8 days in a week
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Old 03-09-2011, 10:44 PM   #112
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only if there were like 26 hours in a day and 8 days in a week
YES!!!!!!
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YES!!! I checked the head to a straight edge and its perfect but a little skim couldnt hurt and get me closer to the tight squish.
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Im not to worried about tight squish PERIOD!!!
A little contradictory there, are we? That being said, skimming the head will do NOTHING for squish clearance. The pistons will not be any closer to the head surface.

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Old 03-17-2011, 06:01 PM   #113
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Can we say, BIG GIANT BOX OF PARTS........ MAHLE!!!!!!
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Old 03-17-2011, 11:07 PM   #114
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Let the good times role!!!!




goodies from Josh @t Yoshifab


no more spikes in volts when the fan comes on


ScottyD's camber plates


MS wiring


Pistons

Mahle Turbo Pistons.... +.60 over sized


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I expect to have the Engine and Head together by end of next week Im hoping or a few days after
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Old 03-17-2011, 11:14 PM   #115
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Why are you going with the getrag?
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Old 03-17-2011, 11:18 PM   #116
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And why dont you have 16v pistons?
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Old 03-17-2011, 11:33 PM   #117
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Why are you going with the getrag?
because it'll take the abuse.
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Old 03-17-2011, 11:44 PM   #118
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Why are you going with the getrag?
Besides the abuse... smooth shifting compared to the m46/47, T5

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And why dont you have 16v pistons?
Need to get the notch tool from Josh and I should probably order that too.
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Old 03-17-2011, 11:58 PM   #119
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What's the overall cost of new stock cast pistons and renting the tool over a little more money and getting forged units. You have such nice brand new parts and you already have the rods. Finish off the bottom end with some bullet proof pistons. Just my thoughts.
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Old 03-18-2011, 12:11 AM   #120
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What's the overall cost of new stock cast pistons and renting the tool over a little more money and getting forged units. You have such nice brand new parts and you already have the rods. Finish off the bottom end with some bullet proof pistons. Just my thoughts.
The Pistons were $245 W/ rings and wrist pins. Josh's tool is like $75 I think
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Old 03-18-2011, 12:14 AM   #121
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Do you have an old block to assemble the pistons onto for the rented tool? Maybe you can send josh your pistons and have them machined on a mill?
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Old 03-18-2011, 12:19 AM   #122
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Does your block need to get bored? What wideband are you running? And make sure to set the valve springs proper seat pressure.
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Old 03-18-2011, 12:20 AM   #123
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Hey nice camber plates.
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Besides the abuse... smooth shifting compared to the m46/47, T5



Need to get the notch tool from Josh and I should probably order that too.
Hmmmmm. The 265 that I drove in a 535is was a terrible shifting transmission. It didn't like to be rushed from 2nd to 3rd or 3rd to 4th. Granted, it did have the better part of 200k miles on it. That said, the getrag has a higher torque capacity from the factory. It comes down personal preference. If it were my car, it'd be a T5
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What kind of torque is the Getrag rated for? The gm worldclass is good for 325 to 350ftlbs......all depends on the driver. I like my positive engagement and rail type shifter of the T5.
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