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Old 07-28-2008, 10:11 PM   #51
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Old 07-30-2008, 11:17 PM   #52
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What happens if I try running a dogdish using a clutch kit for an 850?

http://www.fcpgroton.com/product-exe...category_id/85
That will work very good.

But...

The size will have to be the same (228mm).

The number of splines needs to be the same.

And I don't know if the pressure plate is strong enough. I have never tried it. I would go with the 940 diesel pressure plate.
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Old 07-31-2008, 05:01 AM   #53
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AWSOME!!!!!! ive been wondering about the M90's and now youve just confirmed it for me and expanded my knowledge. thanks. saving this link.....
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Old 07-31-2008, 06:05 AM   #54
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That will work very good.

But...

The size will have to be the same (228mm).

The number of splines needs to be the same.

And I don't know if the pressure plate is strong enough. I have never tried it. I would go with the 940 diesel pressure plate.
Same size, same spline count. I put this question up in maintenance & non-performance as well and got the same answer. I have the 850 clutch kit on hand and would like to make use of it if practical. The pressure plate part number is 3082 226 031. Do you have the specs on that pressure plate?
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Old 07-31-2008, 07:28 AM   #55
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Same size, same spline count. I put this question up in maintenance & non-performance as well and got the same answer. I have the 850 clutch kit on hand and would like to make use of it if practical. The pressure plate part number is 3082 226 031. Do you have the specs on that pressure plate?
The pressure plate should have specifications that are close to the 940TDi pressure plate specifications. It is not weaker than the old turbo pressure plate for the M46 though.
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Old 07-31-2008, 12:35 PM   #56
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Hi, i'm a little confused with the use in a diesel engine, I'm highly interested in buy a Diesel 740/760 and use a M90, but, Exist a "special" version for the D24T or I can use a M90 for a redblock? I need a different flywheel?

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Old 07-31-2008, 10:19 PM   #57
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The pressure plate should have specifications that are close to the 940TDi pressure plate specifications. It is not weaker than the old turbo pressure plate for the M46 though.
I'll use it and post up the results.
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Old 09-02-2008, 08:03 AM   #59
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I'm getting ready for my m90 swap ('94 940t). I already have the 940TDI disc from option 1. Could it be used with the pressure plate from option 2?

Option #1:
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Clutch disc 940TDi, stock, organic, 20 splines, 228mm, Sachs reference number: 18 1862 468 031

Option #2:
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Pressure plate, Sachs race engineering, strengthened/performance, 228mm, Sachs p/n: 883082 999763
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Old 09-02-2008, 12:28 PM   #60
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I'm getting ready for my m90 swap ('94 940t). I already have the 940TDI disc from option 1. Could it be used with the pressure plate from option 2?

Option #1:
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Clutch disc 940TDi, stock, organic, 20 splines, 228mm, Sachs reference number: 18 1862 468 031

Option #2:
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Pressure plate, Sachs race engineering, strengthened/performance, 228mm, Sachs p/n: 883082 999763
Yes. And that is what I am using on my (non-running) car right now.

The 850 clutch disc + Sachs race engineering pressure plate was really nice to drive with and gripped like no tomorrow, but the TDi clutch disc and the same pressure plate was more driveable with more comfort. It probably grips the same, but it feels different.

The 850 clutch disc is great with a stock pressure plate though.

So the answer is yes, use the 850 clutch disc + Sachs race engineering pressure plate. That is the best option.
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Old 09-02-2008, 03:47 PM   #61
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Yes. And that is what I am using on my (non-running) car right now.

The 850 clutch disc + Sachs race engineering pressure plate was really nice to drive with and gripped like no tomorrow, but the TDi clutch disc and the same pressure plate was more driveable with more comfort. It probably grips the same, but it feels different.

The 850 clutch disc is great with a stock pressure plate though.

So the answer is yes, use the 850 clutch disc + Sachs race engineering pressure plate. That is the best option.
Thanks, Fredrik. I'm now having some difficulties sourcing the Sachs race PP. My local parts place said that they called Sachs and couldn't source it via that part number. They asked for an application.

I'm waiting to hear from FCP Groton.

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Old 09-02-2008, 05:01 PM   #62
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Thanks, Fredrik. I'm now having some difficulties sourcing the Sachs race PP. My local parts place said that they called Sachs and couldn't source it via that part number. They asked for an application.

I'm waiting to hear from FCP Groton.

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Appliacation for the Sachs "707" presure plate, if that's the one you mean, is Audi RS4.

Clutch kits can be had here for around $500:
http://www.awe-tuning.com/pages/shar...p;IL=clutchkit

I know it'd be more cost-effective to just find a cover though....
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Old 09-02-2008, 05:19 PM   #63
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Appliacation for the Sachs "707" presure plate, if that's the one you mean, is Audi RS4.

Clutch kits can be had here for around $500:
http://www.awe-tuning.com/pages/shar...p;IL=clutchkit

I know it'd be more cost-effective to just find a cover though....
It is not the 707 plate.

The pressure plate I have listed is the Sachs racing pressure plate which is an aftermarket part not installed in any vehicle from the factory.

Pressure plate, Sachs race engineering, strengthened/performance, 228mm, Sachs p/n: 883082 999763

Btw... Is the 707 plate even 228mm??? I thought it was 240mm...
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Thanks, Fredrik. I'm now having some difficulties sourcing the Sachs race PP. My local parts place said that they called Sachs and couldn't source it via that part number. They asked for an application.

I'm waiting to hear from FCP Groton.

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Go to this site and you will find the pressure plate. Then show the dealer...

http://webcat.zf-trading.com/index.asp?SPR=4
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Old 09-02-2008, 05:28 PM   #65
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This is the exact link to the pressure plate:

http://webcat.zf-trading.com/index.a...teile_info.asp

Go to the bottom of the page. Choose language where it says "sprache" if it is not in English.
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Old 09-02-2008, 06:49 PM   #66
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Yeah I am a tard stuck in whiteblock land. Sorry 'bout that.

Incidentally, does the racing pressure plate require flywheel re-pin/re-drill?
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Old 09-03-2008, 03:05 AM   #67
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Awesome info!

And ah shyt @ third gear - mine is definitely not as healthy as it should be.
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Old 09-03-2008, 08:00 AM   #68
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Awesome info!

And ah shyt @ third gear - mine is definitely not as healthy as it should be.
Did you have the 3rd synchro stop ring welded per instructions in this thread? I am getting ready to have mine done.
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Go to this site and you will find the pressure plate. Then show the dealer...

http://webcat.zf-trading.com/index.asp?SPR=4
I can't figure out out to find a dealer on that web page. FCP Groton said it has to be ordered from Germany and they can't do it.
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Yeah I am a tard stuck in whiteblock land. Sorry 'bout that.
I understand. People here in Sweden also go on and on about the 707 plate. Don't get me wrong. It is a supreme pressure plate, and good enough for most people. But since it is 240mm it only fits on the dual mass flywheels.

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Incidentally, does the racing pressure plate require flywheel re-pin/re-drill?
No. Plug-n-play.

It is made for stock height. It will engage/disengage with shorter throw though (and that is really a nice feature to have).
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I understand. People here in Sweden also go on and on about the 707 plate. Don't get me wrong. It is a supreme pressure plate, and good enough for most people. But since it is 240mm it only fits on the dual mass flywheels.

Not to add to more confusion, but I am pretty sure you can put a 240mm clutch on the whiteblock flywheels- the 850R clutch is 240mm which is what I have on my 850 flat flywheel + m90.
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I can't figure out out to find a dealer on that web page. FCP Groton said it has to be ordered from Germany and they can't do it.
What is it with US dealers...?

First they can't, or are unwilling to get the LSO2 sensor I reviewed a while back. And the numbers in the US does not correspond to the Bosch numbers in the EU...

Now the dealer doesn't want to get a pressure plate from a big company like Sachs?

Go here: http://butiken.enem.se/katalog.asp

At the bottom of the page, to the right, there is a button that says "Pris inkl. moms". Press that so it says "Pris exkl. moms".

Under "Bilmärke / modell" at the top, press the drop-down menu to choose car make (Volvo in this case). The drop-down menu under that is where you choose the model. Choose "940 Bensin Turbo 2.3 Sedan, Kombi 1991-1998 165 hk".

On the leftmost menu, scroll down and choose "Koppling".

Then the list of parts available will appear.

A little dictionary to use on that page:

Tryckplatta = Pressure plate
Lamell = Friction disc / clutch disc
Organisk = Organic
Sinterbelägg = Sintered friction pads
Med fjäderpaket = With sprung hub

If there is anything else you want to know, just ask.
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Not to add to more confusion, but I am pretty sure you can put a 240mm clutch on the whiteblock flywheels- the 850R clutch is 240mm which is what I have on my 850 flat flywheel + m90.
Yes, but most flywheels for the whiteblocks are dual-mass unfortunately.

And yes, some 850's have a regular flywheel. The 707 plate with fit that. If you have one of those flywheels, then that is very good.

But here we are mainly talking about the redblocks I guess, so the only flywheel that the 240mm plate would fit on is the dual-mass version. I would not try to put more than 300-350NM through that because of self-preservation instincts.
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Did you have the 3rd synchro stop ring welded per instructions in this thread? I am getting ready to have mine done.
I just bought the car a few weeks ago, so I doubt the last owner had it done.
My big gripe about the tranny was always that third gear was a bit sloppy.
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What is it with US dealers...?

First they can't, or are unwilling to get the LSO2 sensor I reviewed a while back. And the numbers in the US does not correspond to the Bosch numbers in the EU...

Now the dealer doesn't want to get a pressure plate from a big company like Sachs?

Go here: http://butiken.enem.se/katalog.asp

At the bottom of the page, to the right, there is a button that says "Pris inkl. moms". Press that so it says "Pris exkl. moms".

Under "Bilmärke / modell" at the top, press the drop-down menu to choose car make (Volvo in this case). The drop-down menu under that is where you choose the model. Choose "940 Bensin Turbo 2.3 Sedan, Kombi 1991-1998 165 hk".

On the leftmost menu, scroll down and choose "Koppling".

Then the list of parts available will appear.

A little dictionary to use on that page:

Tryckplatta = Pressure plate
Lamell = Friction disc / clutch disc
Organisk = Organic
Sinterbelägg = Sintered friction pads
Med fjäderpaket = With sprung hub

If there is anything else you want to know, just ask.
Thanks, Fredrik. However, it appears I will be looking at more than $400 shipped for that 'Tryckplatta'. I will probably go for the option 1 pressure plate since this is just my DD and not going to be modified much or beat on much.
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