home register FAQ memberlist calendar

Go Back   Turbobricks Forums > Mechanical > performance & modifications

View Poll Results: Which stupid turbo?
15G swap to angled 0 0%
19T angled 6 26.09%
19T conical 0 0%
HE341 9 39.13%
Keep conical because it's better, but push car into lake because idc and it seems fun? 8 34.78%
Voters: 23. You may not vote on this poll

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 06-09-2018, 02:31 PM   #1
EivlEvo
Board Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Default 15G Conical. What Next? 19T Angled? HE341? Push Car Into Lake?

I should probably make a project thread that could be about half of me building this car in pointlessly conservative stages and half about how it has some petty inconvenient problem I need fixed but whatever.

1993 245 squirters +T

Currently on IPD cam and a 15G at ~15psi. Has T5 trans. Has big IC. Has 577cc's with 3" AMM and TLAO but I'm laying the groundwork for standalone.

I have 2 other turbos.

1. A 19T with angled flange
2. A Holset HE341

The goal is for a quick feeling daily. The 19T seems to make the most sense, but mixed reviews. The Holset would make the car "fast" vs. quick but also mixed reviews lol.

I MAY try and weld up a good universal downpipe this weekend (if this migraine subsides) so I can basically just swap the upper curved section when I swap turbos and housings. It seems pointless to put the 19T into the 15G conical housing yes?
EivlEvo is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 06-09-2018, 03:26 PM   #2
soclosenotnear
Board Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: summerville, south carolina
Default

I wouldn't mind seeing a project thread on your 240.

My vote is the 19t with either straight or angled housing for your goals. I say straight housing because it'll be easier to make your downpipe work. I don't think a "universal" downpipe will work on an angled flange well, fwiw.

Last edited by soclosenotnear; 06-09-2018 at 07:20 PM.. Reason: Meant angled. Conical housing sucks.
soclosenotnear is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-09-2018, 03:38 PM   #3
EivlEvo
Board Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Default

The idea of the universal DP basically just puts a v-band on the DOWN part of the downpipe. That means I can detach it there and use a modified upper section for my current conical, a future angled or the Holset (which I'd bet I'd run off the NA manifold with a J pipe)...

Also thanks. I have all the pics... just gotta do it.
EivlEvo is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 06-09-2018, 03:38 PM   #4
tryingbe
Boosting along.
 
tryingbe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Mesa, AZ
Default

Auto or manual?
__________________
85 GLH 367whp
00 Insight 72 mpg
tryingbe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-09-2018, 04:11 PM   #5
EivlEvo
Board Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Default

It's an auto swapped to a T5. So... manual.
EivlEvo is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 06-09-2018, 04:25 PM   #6
cosbySweater
Board Member
 
cosbySweater's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Monterey/Falun
Default

Do the 19t. It will do exactly what you want
__________________
1979 Volvo 244DL 6.0/4l80e,8.8,Ms3x goldbox ecu and Mircrosquirt tcu, s366 clone, 11.4@123mph 9psi
2005 Honda Civic Hybrid, 5 Speed
1991 Volvo 245, so stock it hurts, and I like it that way
1982 Ford Fairmont Futura, 4.8/th400, 8.8, mircrosquirt, 7875 turbo, 228/230 cam, Project Cheap Thrills

Quote:
Originally Posted by bricktop420 View Post
Thank you very much everybody... i now feel sufficiently retarded and will go cry in the corner...
cosbySweater is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-09-2018, 05:36 PM   #7
Tfrasca
Board Member
 
Tfrasca's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Aptos, CA
Default

The 19t is pretty sweet for a quick daily.
Tfrasca is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-12-2018, 12:48 PM   #8
EivlEvo
Board Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Default

Hahaha.

Everyone says go 19T but the poll says go Holset.

I had heard tales of 19Ts being rod benders on redblocks because the boost hits so low and hard.
EivlEvo is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 06-12-2018, 12:49 PM   #9
thelostartof
unbalanced chemical
 
thelostartof's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Apache Junction, AZ
Default

Only on whiteblocks not redblocks

And the white block reason is because of boost controller and or the lack there of a proper setup.
__________________
Chip Feedback Thread / PM LH 2.4 Chip Prices
thelostartof is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-12-2018, 02:23 PM   #10
Uncleknucklez
bruspeed
 
Uncleknucklez's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Sacramento, CA
Default

19T is my vote. I am already thinking about a 19T for my car, you know to keep up with the Joneses.
__________________
1980 242 Turbo
2004 V70R

Uncleknucklez is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-12-2018, 02:29 PM   #11
EivlEvo
Board Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Uncleknucklez View Post
19T is my vote. I am already thinking about a 19T for my car, you know to keep up with the Joneses.
J_Jones has a 2JZ in his car now though lolol

And I think the other jones person on here is putting a 531 head onto NA in an effort to win JohnV's heart?



And we're over here playing around with little turbos.
EivlEvo is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 06-12-2018, 02:31 PM   #12
EivlEvo
Board Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Default

I'm gonna start with this 19T if my snap ring pliers show up. Also... angled is better than conical yes? I feel like it's the bigger angled flange which is default bigger.

I'm gonna try and water cool this turbo for max complexity... and add an oil cooler as well. My 15G is coked out worse than a 90's stockbroker.
EivlEvo is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 06-12-2018, 02:34 PM   #13
Tfrasca
Board Member
 
Tfrasca's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Aptos, CA
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Uncleknucklez View Post
19T is my vote. I am already thinking about a 19T for my car, you know to keep up with the Joneses.
I'll have one for you in a month or so...
Tfrasca is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-12-2018, 02:34 PM   #14
Uncleknucklez
bruspeed
 
Uncleknucklez's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Sacramento, CA
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by EivlEvo View Post
J_Jones has a 2JZ in his car now though lolol

And I think the other jones person on here is putting a 531 head onto NA in an effort to win JohnV's heart?



And we're over here playing around with little turbos.
Well, I'm not going that far...yet

Quote:
Originally Posted by EivlEvo View Post
I'm gonna start with this 19T if my snap ring pliers show up. Also... angled is better than conical yes? I feel like it's the bigger angled flange which is default bigger.

I'm gonna try and water cool this turbo for max complexity... and add an oil cooler as well. My 15G is coked out worse than a 90's stockbroker.
Angled is mucho better, water cooling is easy enough with factory parts, should be NBD.
Uncleknucklez is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-12-2018, 03:02 PM   #15
gsellstr
Vintage anti-ricer
 
gsellstr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Somewhere in a northern California smog bank
Default

Definitely 19t over the holset for a daily. BTDT on the Holset, needs some work to get it to spool in town. My experience, you'd get halfway into an intersection, almost get hit from side traffic if there was any, then it would finally light off and throw you sideways. Something a little smaller like the 19t or my Garrett lights off from the get-go, gets you moving thru traffic before it fully lights off.
__________________
RIP
Doug Williams aka Mr. Doug 4/15/2009
Pete Fluitman aka fivehundred 7/14/2013
Mick Starkey aka TrickMick 1/10/14
Mark Baldwin aka blue850t5 7/19/18
Nick Fengler aka fengler 8/6/18

74 144 B20
http://forums.turbobricks.com/showthread.php?t=224983

90 745Ti
http://forums.turbobricks.com/showthread.php?t=334698

If you need Superpro bushings PM me for price and availability!
gsellstr is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-12-2018, 03:29 PM   #16
Uncleknucklez
bruspeed
 
Uncleknucklez's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Sacramento, CA
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tfrasca View Post
I'll have one for you in a month or so...
We will chat about this.
Uncleknucklez is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-14-2018, 12:50 AM   #17
JKnuck6
Board Member
 
JKnuck6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Fort Myers FL
Default

So those of you have that have a 19T on your car... question. I have a 19t on my 245, but had to put a conical flange on it to bolt up the 4 bolts to the exhaust manifold. Are people just running it with 3 bolts?
__________________
06 V70R (ipd goodies)
84 245+t (19t)
91 244+t ("63 trim" ebay, 1000cc, microsquirt)
91 940 Turbo (sold)
94 850 Turbo Wagon (sold)
JKnuck6 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-14-2018, 12:58 AM   #18
tryingbe
Boosting along.
 
tryingbe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Mesa, AZ
Default

I prefer mid to high end power vs low end torque, so I voted Holset.
tryingbe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-14-2018, 06:20 AM   #19
oldschoolvolvo
Board Member
 
oldschoolvolvo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Lancaster, PA
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by JKnuck6 View Post
So those of you have that have a 19T on your car... question. I have a 19t on my 245, but had to put a conical flange on it to bolt up the 4 bolts to the exhaust manifold. Are people just running it with 3 bolts?
Others have also had issues using the angled flange turbine housing on the 19T...solution is either swapping turbine housings or getting out the grinder.

http://forums.tbforums.com/showthread.php?t=342705
__________________
-Mike
1998 V70 T5
1979 242 DL+T |Project Thread| |Feedback|

Last edited by oldschoolvolvo; 06-14-2018 at 06:41 AM..
oldschoolvolvo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-14-2018, 11:51 AM   #20
JKnuck6
Board Member
 
JKnuck6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Fort Myers FL
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by oldschoolvolvo View Post
Others have also had issues using the angled flange turbine housing on the 19T...solution is either swapping turbine housings or getting out the grinder.

http://forums.tbforums.com/showthread.php?t=342705
awesome man. thank you!
JKnuck6 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-14-2018, 12:12 PM   #21
thelostartof
unbalanced chemical
 
thelostartof's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Apache Junction, AZ
Default

We will see when I swap on the 19t I have here on the bench to see the gains over my 15g. But I still love the stupidness of my holset. Nevermind the top end power is world's better than anything a 19t will do.
thelostartof is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-14-2018, 03:37 PM   #22
EivlEvo
Board Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by thelostartof View Post
We will see when I swap on the 19t I have here on the bench to see the gains over my 15g. But I still love the stupidness of my holset. Nevermind the top end power is world's better than anything a 19t will do.
Mike... you and I are basically constantly building the same cars it seems

Have you been on the dyno with your 15G setup? Is the setup/dyno stuff posted anywhere?

I'm half considering trying to get onto the dyno on the 15G prior to going 19T but... I just sprung for a buncha crap.
EivlEvo is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 06-14-2018, 03:51 PM   #23
thelostartof
unbalanced chemical
 
thelostartof's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Apache Junction, AZ
Default

I want to Dyno my current setup and then go 19t and redyno but it is to damn hot here to even bother.
thelostartof is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-14-2018, 04:53 PM   #24
EivlEvo
Board Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by thelostartof View Post
I want to Dyno my current setup and then go 19t and redyno but it is to damn hot here to even bother.
Haha same. It dropped into the 60's in the AM earlier this week and I was like OH DAMN... my car so faaaaassssst

Back to triple digits and AC though
EivlEvo is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 06-14-2018, 05:47 PM   #25
Sjeng
Board Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2017
Default

Just switched from 15G to 18T. 18T is as fast at 0.8 bar as the 15G at 1 bar.

It runs very nice now, good response and you do not feel the torque dropping off like with the 15G.
Sjeng is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:01 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2018, vBulletin Solutions Inc.