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Old 09-22-2016, 08:31 PM   #1
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So I am off to Cleveland from Colorado. I can either get a U-haul and tow the brick, or use the brick to tow a little trailer.

The U-haul site says I need to disconnect the driveshaft if I use a tow dolly. I am also worried 22 straight hours with a trailer might be a tough run for the old girl.

Any thoughts? Spending 850 to ship it seems like a lot.
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Old 09-22-2016, 08:50 PM   #2
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if its an auto, you should remove the driveshaft (probably not a bad idea with a manual as well, but you DEF want it in neutral ;) )

little trailer probably wouldn't be a big deal either, but a uhaul truck dragging a car might be better than a car dragging a trailer.
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Old 09-22-2016, 08:56 PM   #3
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if its an auto, you should remove the driveshaft (probably not a bad idea with a manual as well, but you DEF want it in neutral ;) )

little trailer probably wouldn't be a big deal either, but a uhaul truck dragging a car might be better than a car dragging a trailer.
It's a manual, so will do truck dragging the car then.

Now I understand the automatic thing.
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Old 09-22-2016, 10:34 PM   #4
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I'd look closer at shipping options. Compared to what could go wrong and the extra trouble, shipping would be less stressful.
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Old 09-22-2016, 11:15 PM   #5
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Once you figure out what happens inside a manual transmission in nutral during towing. You won't do it without either removing the drive shaft or leaving the engine idling to lube it.
The problem is simply that in nutral with the engine off the only thing turning is the main shaft. Without the layshaft moving nothing gets lubed. Usually it takes out the bearing between the input and main shaft and causes the noise in every gear but direct. (normally 4th) I've also seen it wreck the whole main shaft. Or seize the bearing between the two shafts and turn the engine over.

Anyways nobody seems to want to believe this. Probably because they've never actually figured out how a manual transmission works.

It's not a good idea but whatever people do it all the time then wonder why they have trouble. Or just get lucky.
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Old 09-22-2016, 11:23 PM   #6
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Having driven a moving van cross-country (Cincinnati, OH to Seattle, WA) while towing a car, I would highly recommend a full car trailer rather than the 2-wheeled car dolly. A full trailer is more stable at speed, can be backed up if necessary, and avoids the wear-and-tear associated with towing on a dolly.

Also, I would recommend pricing out other van rentals like Penske, Ryder, Budget, etc.
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Old 09-23-2016, 04:43 AM   #7
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I have to agree with Owlsey. My(ex) client had a Jag, that needed to go to Florida, from Chicago, and after discoverey, we determined it was cheaper to ship it than hire a driver and pay fuel, hotel....almost always cheaper to ship (unless your time is worthless..)
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I'd look closer at shipping options. Compared to what could go wrong and the extra trouble, shipping would be less stressful.
I would also suggest revisiting shipping methods before you rent a truck, buy a bigger trailer, etc. I had a positive experience with uship.com, the site where shippers compete and bid on your job, to move a car across my (admittedly narrow) state.
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Old 09-23-2016, 07:39 AM   #9
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Drive it there, and fly back? Or pay someone you trust if you don't have time.
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Old 09-24-2016, 03:37 PM   #10
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Okay here is option two. Drive the truck, tow the FWD Sentra with it's rear wheels spinning. I can have them truck the Volvo for 850 bucks.

Two grand for my trip plus the truck transport. This sounds like the better answer.
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Old 09-24-2016, 09:29 PM   #11
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Dolly the Sentra sounds totally fine. Though truth be told you could dolly a Sentra behind the Volvo. It'll do it if it's in good shape.

Just make sure the brakes/suspension/tires are decent on the Volvo/dolly.

I'd put a good huge roof box on the Volvo and spend the money on maintenance it probably needs anyway and hill billy move.
Buy a decent tow dolly and resell when done? Just buy a good one that isn't sketchy or thrashed, not a lot to go wrong with them and they never lose their value unless way beat up.

7/9 cars tow nice.
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Old 09-25-2016, 06:26 PM   #12
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Get a tow dolly from UHaul that completely lifts the car off of the ground. No driveshaft disconnection needed and much less hassle.
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Old 09-25-2016, 08:06 PM   #13
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Okay flatbed sounds better. I have a hitch on the Volvo and can tow the Sentra but need my stuff. I'll flatbed the Volvo behind the Uhaul, then come back and get the Sentra and drive it.

One driver, stuff, and two cars makes it complicated.
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Old 09-25-2016, 08:16 PM   #14
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Spend some money on maintenance for the 240 and rent a small trailer. After the tow you will have some extra maintenance done!

I towed this from Western Mass to DC,

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Went pretty well, just made sure to not use 5th going up hills!!!

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Old 09-25-2016, 11:55 PM   #15
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I don't like to tow anything with modern cars. Let's see a tranny shop charges at least $1,500 to rebuild an automatic. Normally they screw it up the first few tries and charge you to try again. Plus towing it in every time.

Last Uhaul truck I paid for from Omaha to LA was only 800 bucks.
Sounds pretty cheap to me.
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The other idea: car trailer for Swede Kar using U-Haul truck to pull the whole sheebang ?

Then go back and get the Nisson ?
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The other idea: car trailer for Swede Kar using U-Haul truck to pull the whole sheebang ?

Then go back and get the Nisson ?
Yep doing that.
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So I am off to Cleveland from Colorado. I can either get a U-haul and tow the brick, or use the brick to tow a little trailer.

The U-haul site says I need to disconnect the driveshaft if I use a tow dolly. I am also worried 22 straight hours with a trailer might be a tough run for the old girl.

Any thoughts? Spending 850 to ship it seems like a lot.
I towed a 245 from Texas to Alabama with a tow dolly. Did not mess with the drive shaft. I put the rear on the dolly and place some flags on the hood.
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Okay flatbed sounds better. I have a hitch on the Volvo and can tow the Sentra but need my stuff. I'll flatbed the Volvo behind the Uhaul, then come back and get the Sentra and drive it.

One driver, stuff, and two cars makes it complicated.
Get or buy yourself a girlfriend to drive one car for you.
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I've pulled cars on a dolly with the rear on the dolly. Just make sure the front wheels are straight before you turn it off, and the steering lock should take care of the front wheels turning.
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Okay flatbed sounds better. I have a hitch on the Volvo and can tow the Sentra but need my stuff. I'll flatbed the Volvo behind the Uhaul, then come back and get the Sentra and drive it.

One driver, stuff, and two cars makes it complicated.



When I had to haul a car, I got the flatbed trailer and was able to stuff the car with...stuff. Rented an F250 to haul it the 400 or so miles. No sweat.
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Both cars have manual transmissions and decent clutches.
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so um... you still gonna be in San Diego in October? For the beers and tacos?

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Old 09-26-2016, 09:58 PM   #24
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so um... you still gonna be in San Diego in October? For the beers and tacos?
Nope. Wife bought her 26 year old a WRX STI. He earns 12 bucks an hour meaning six more years until he is 32 in a tiny house. We had this discussion before to no avail, and I left.

Met a hot chick in Cleveland, rented a house with a killer garage and headed up this weekend in a Uhaul. She cannot drive a stick shift without total destruction, hence this thread. She and my dog are up front for the trip.

I'll see you in the spring my friend soon as the water gets warmer and the fishing is good off of San Diego. My son is down there, and I need to get settled and into my new gig at work. Just bad timing for this month.
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well I had a feeling that was the gist of it... but Hey Congrats! because

>>> Time and Tide Wait for No Man <<<

I don't know how much warmer it can get down here, today was around 100F all over SD and La Jolla Cove water temp was 70F. I'm sure the Seaforth guys were miserable
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