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Old 07-02-2018, 08:52 PM   #1
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Default 1972 145: The idk WTF I'm doing with it yet but I'll sure try

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So yeah, I saw this car the last week of June '18 during my daily CL trolling. Two days later, it popped up in the Orphan thread. I drove to Carlisle from Bel Air to look at it Thursday night (June 28?). Struck up a deal Friday night. Paid and brought it home Saturday morning (June 30).

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Brakes- trying to affordably source all the parts to rebuild the Girling brake system
Engine- Finish overhauling carbs, detail engine bay, D cam, B20E head
Wheels- I have no clue but I have correct hubcaps but also kinda want to run my Draco's in the garage (same size tires )
Flush rear end, transmission, crankcase and put in all fresh synthetic lube
Source and install missing lenses
Suspension overhaul- new shocks/struts, bushings, and front sway bar
Patch holes at bottom of the windshield
Period correct tach or GT clu$ter
Drive to WVU for sophomore year
Drive to MountainMeet 2k19

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Old 07-02-2018, 09:03 PM   #2
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Snagged this last night from a guy 20 minutes from my house:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Volvo-1800-...72.m2749.l2649

Maybe if I decide to be cool I'll clean it and rebuild it but for the price of a complete new kit, I figured $205 plus shipping was too good to pass up.
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Old 07-02-2018, 11:11 PM   #3
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Y U kill B20 with weber downdraft carb?
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how psi stock cna support?

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Old 07-02-2018, 11:52 PM   #4
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Y U kill B20 with weber downdraft carb?
Y nobody beside Volvo use HIF6's?
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Old 07-03-2018, 05:55 AM   #5
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Better option, if not going full-on DCOE would be a pair of HS6 carbs. Install them and get them jetted properly. Or, you could MS it, install D-Jet, K-Jet, or KE-Jet from a pre-Digifant A2 VW Golf or Jetta, etc. Buddy of mine who owned a 122S with a B20B swapped on the last option. It actually ran pretty nicely and got decent fuel economy for a car with a column-shift Bw35.
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Old 07-03-2018, 08:52 PM   #6
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Better option, if not going full-on DCOE would be a pair of HS6 carbs. Install them and get them jetted properly. Or, you could MS it, install D-Jet, K-Jet, or KE-Jet from a pre-Digifant A2 VW Golf or Jetta, etc. Buddy of mine who owned a 122S with a B20B swapped on the last option. It actually ran pretty nicely and got decent fuel economy for a car with a column-shift Bw35.
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Fortunately, the PO included two L Jet B20 manifolds at my request after pondering about the possibility of MicroSquirt with such an engine.

Step one however, is to make it run with the HIF 6's, get a title, and make the thing able to be driven around the block. THEN, I can start to play with performance.
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Old 07-03-2018, 11:25 PM   #7
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Sweet 145, I love that color.

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Y nobody beside Volvo use HIF6's?
I don't know if you're familiar with HIF6's already or know about Joe Curto http://joecurto.com ?He has all the parts to rebuild 'em. I had to place two orders because I didn't give him good info the first time (and all HIF6's are not the same); If you want I can give you the details on what I ended up needing.
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Y nobody beside Volvo use HIF6's?
Ya they're odd birds send them to me I'll even pay shipping.
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Old 07-04-2018, 02:37 PM   #9
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Ya they're odd birds send them to me I'll even pay shipping.
My boss already tried to buy them from me for his street/track TR6.
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Old 07-04-2018, 05:13 PM   #10
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Ya they're odd birds send them to me I'll even pay shipping.
Yes, I'd take em too. Besides the temp compensator, there's only a very small number of moving parts. If those few parts are in working order, they'll work better than that downdraft Ford/Holley clone.
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Old 07-04-2018, 11:02 PM   #11
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My boss already tried to buy them from me for his street/track TR6.
I have a pair that I sent to Tom Bryant for inspection. He installed his delrin throttle shaft bushings and gave them a clean bill of health. If your boss is interested
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Old 07-12-2018, 11:01 PM   #12
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July 4th update (sorry for the delay)

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Old 07-13-2018, 05:26 AM   #13
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Stoked to see this! I think I saw this on CL not that long ago. I was tempted but I have enough projects. Cool color! Can’t wait to see what you do with it.
Good luck!
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Old 07-18-2018, 09:25 PM   #14
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Well, at the moment, I am toying with the idea of plopping my 13mm rod B230FT and a T5 trans in the car.

See the google spreadsheet below for a relativley underwhelming parts list...

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing
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Old 07-18-2018, 09:31 PM   #15
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Also, here are some more pictures of the car!



The sad state of the interior at the moment...





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Old 07-18-2018, 11:17 PM   #16
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Address that fuel line leak at the carbs before you run it again. You can see it dripping in the vid.
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^Yup. Friends of the family lost their '71 164 due to a fuel leak like that. Fuel hit the hot exhaust manifold and caught fire.

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Address that fuel line leak at the carbs before you run it again. You can see it dripping in the vid.
It’s actually the square profile o ring the seals the float bowl.
Waiting to order parts until the title paperwork arrives.
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Old 07-19-2018, 01:06 PM   #19
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Cool car. I don't see any mention of a fuel system in your Google Sheet. That ended up being one of the most annoying parts of my swap. I don't know if a later 240 wagon tank will drop into your car, but that's definitely what I'd be trying to do.
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Old 07-20-2018, 04:19 AM   #20
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Some welding would be necessary, plus access to a 1974-93 donor. The rear floor pan is different from the axle back. Whereas the trunk floor (or storage compartment bottom in the case of a 145) is the tank in a 1967-73 car, the floor pan comes up behind the rear seat where the tank sits underneath, then there's a drop off behind the tank, which extends to the tail panel.

The frame rails are also different, having the boxed in sections for the bumper shocks, which means that the 1967-72 rear bumper can't be used without fabrication of new mounts. You'd have to use at least a 1973 rear bumper in place of it, mounted to a pair of 1974 bumper shocks.

The good news is that you could then use whatever 240 exhaust setup you wanted, since the 1974 145 is essentially a 240 with the 140 suspension back there. If you were to take the complete floor from a late 1974 145, you could even mount a 240 parking brake setup, instead of having the handle on the outside of the driver's seat, next to the door. From what I've read, the late production 1974 cars have the necessary mounting holes and bracketry to make it possible to use a 240 parking brake handle between the seats. If the '74 145 I owned back in 2001-02 had been a later car, I probably would've done the conversion, while I was building it up.
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Yep, completely different rear section in '74.

Actually, all 140/164's had the option of a mid mount hand brake. A kit was available to convert them. Of course, it's NLA.

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^Interesting...
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Yep, completely different rear section in '74.

Actually, all 140/164's had the option of a mid mount hand brake. A kit was available to convert them. Of course, it's NLA.


That's cool. Never hear of or seen one of those.
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A working D-Jet system would be pretty easy to live with while you make the rest of the car into a car.
Heck, it would be pretty easy to live with it as a D-Jet car indefinitely.
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Old 07-25-2018, 08:48 PM   #25
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This is a pretty big step!

Got a message from my TB buddy in Maine today, with the attached photo:



For a whopping $83.06 for taxes and fees, I now have a means to title the wagon in the state of Maryland!!

Now I can confidently order parts to get the car running for any period of time!
Radiator hoses, thermostat and gasket, carb kits, new fuel lines, valve cover gasket, and an intake/exhaust gasket!

Next on the to-do list is install the radiator, rebuild the carburetors, seal up the intake and exhaust manifolds, and flush the fuel tank (not too bad, surprisingly).
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