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Old 04-15-2020, 02:05 PM   #1
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Exclamation NA performance? Look here.

Interested in NON-TURBO, normally aspirated power increases? Here's a lot of info to digest if you'd like!

LH TUNING:
I also included a zipped folder attachment with bin and xdf files and the checksum tool for TunerPro if you're running LH2.4 or LH3.1 and want to do some tuning of your own! You'll need need to download TunerPro or the BOSCH LH 2.4 EDITOR in order to tune your own stuff. If you don't have an Ostrich, you can get a chip burner online and do it that way instead if wanted(Ostrich recommended!). I also included a tweaked 951 bin file and notes that I'm running on my car as of right now with a slightly shaved 530 head, .036" headgasket, 16V White-Top fuel injectors, H cam, opened airbox and exhaust mods if you want to try it out.

Here's a reference to past and current NA performance discussions with at least some decent info in each. Some of the info is older, but mostly it's good and worth reading. The earlier threads in each section are more recent(or will be when I get around to organizing).

I can also put together a bunch of dyno plots.

Squish/quench/thin headgasket/piston-head clearance discussions:
Building a tight squish motor: http://forums.turbobricks.com/showthread.php?t=110700
Shaving the head for bigger bangs: http://forums.turbobricks.com/showthread.php?t=348598
What's the thinnest Cometic you've run?: http://forums.turbobricks.com/showthread.php?t=274989
Any problems running thinner headgasket for quench?: http://forums.turbobricks.com/showthread.php?t=251784

Camshaft discussions:

VX worth the cost?: http://forums.turbobricks.com/showthread.php?t=266225
A cam, B cam, IPD T cam, D cam: http://forums.turbobricks.com/showthread.php?t=150954
V vs VX: http://forums.turbobricks.com/showthread.php?t=277707
H or K: http://forums.turbobricks.com/showthread.php?t=275416
A or B: http://forums.turbobricks.com/showthread.php?t=341814
A or VX3: http://forums.turbobricks.com/showthread.php?t=342490
Effects of changing camshaft timing: http://forums.turbobricks.com/showthread.php?t=209648
RSI NA cam in action: http://forums.turbobricks.com/showthread.php?t=164071
B21 with RSI NA cam: http://forums.turbobricks.com/showthread.php?t=266267
Redblock aftermarket cam experiences: http://forums.turbobricks.com/showthread.php?t=333776
We measured redblock cams: http://forums.turbobricks.com/showthread.php?t=337956

General NA performance:
NA performance goals: http://forums.turbobricks.com/showthread.php?t=354436
Emissions and NA performance: http://forums.turbobricks.com/showthread.php?t=353970
How much power can you get NA: http://forums.turbobricks.com/showthread.php?t=272196
531 worth it on NA?: http://forums.turbobricks.com/showthread.php?t=275133
Coach me on NA build: http://forums.turbobricks.com/showthread.php?t=290198
NA power: http://forums.turbobricks.com/showthread.php?t=337311
Drifts N Lifts header test(watch all the engine related videos): http://forums.turbobricks.com/showthread.php?t=342098
531 on NA auto: http://forums.turbobricks.com/showthread.php?t=342456
World Record B230 Power: http://forums.turbobricks.com/showthread.php?t=348117
LH 3.1 NA stuff: http://forums.turbobricks.com/showthread.php?t=349476
LH 3.1 NA basic build: http://forums.turbobricks.com/showthread.php?t=355121
Streetable 8V vs 16V: http://forums.turbobricks.com/showthread.php?t=347900
B21F/K-jet manifold on B230: http://forums.turbobricks.com/showthread.php?t=267011
What kind of exhaust?: http://forums.turbobricks.com/showthread.php?t=252103
Rebuilding a B21F for modest gains: http://forums.turbobricks.com/showthread.php?t=244434
General performance: http://forums.turbobricks.com/showthread.php?t=250869
General torque/performance: http://forums.turbobricks.com/showthread.php?t=245008
Camshaft selection, head height/shaving, etc.: http://forums.turbobricks.com/showthread.php?t=152983
Intake plenum: http://forums.turbobricks.com/showthread.php?t=153339
NA upgrade order: http://forums.turbobricks.com/showthread.php?t=145344
Cam choices for high compression: http://forums.turbobricks.com/showthread.php?t=140759
Stealthfti/Thomas Fritz(RIP ☹️) gallery with lots of longevity/efficiency tricks: https://pbase.com/stealthfti/root
16V/B234 upgrades(with Erland Cox!): http://forums.turbobricks.com/showthread.php?t=249791

And there's many more, but a good start. Feel free to share other threads that you've saved.
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File Type: zip NA LH2.4 8V + 16V + LH3.1 tuning kit.zip (348.5 KB, 20 views)

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Old 04-17-2020, 07:58 AM   #2
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Old 04-17-2020, 11:23 AM   #3
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I'm stoked to dig into these. Thanks Kyle!
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Old 04-17-2020, 01:53 PM   #4
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Reserved for dyno plots...
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Old 04-17-2020, 07:12 PM   #5
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No turbo, just real power

There should be an NA highest HP/quarter mile competition
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Old 04-17-2020, 07:38 PM   #6
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No turbo, just real power

There should be an NA highest HP/quarter mile competition
There should be a "look how much money I just spent to go this slow competition".
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Old 04-30-2020, 05:51 PM   #7
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I added a zip file with a bunch of LH tuning bins and xdfs for those looking to tweak their LH2.4 8V, LH2.4 16V and LH3.1 8V NA cars to the first post! I also threw in my personal 951 bin from my 244 with a basic package on it(slight shaved head, H cam, thinner headgasket and other basic tweaks with 16V white-top injectors).

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No turbo, just real power

There should be an NA highest HP/quarter mile competition
It's more fun to beat the slow turbo cars in the EvW competition, and mostly, there's just not enough people actually getting out to the drag strip and posting about it on TB anymore.

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There should be a "look how much money I just spent to go this slow competition".
Boooring.
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Old 04-30-2020, 06:06 PM   #8
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Depends on application. Sometimes turbo good, sometimes, turbo not.
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Old 05-04-2020, 09:52 PM   #9
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Some good NA info/advice when I enquired about tuning the B234. hth

http://forums.turbobricks.com/showthread.php?t=249791
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Old 07-17-2020, 08:27 PM   #10
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Thanks for the post!
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Old 07-28-2020, 12:51 PM   #11
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Info on shorter timing belts: http://forums.turbobricks.com/showthread.php?t=235689

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