89_740Turbo
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Updated: 3/1/19
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So for those who are not aware, I am currently preparing to swap a 1989 World Class T5 transmission into my 1989 740. My 740 utilizes hydraulic clutch and is not cable clutch.
Firstly, I will sum up some of the problems I have encountered so far.
1. There is virtually no information of T5 swaps into a 740 online. 98.99999% of T5 swaps completed are for 240's
2. Most of the things out there made for the swap are made for a T5 swap into a 240, although some of the parts can be used on a 740
3. I wouldn't consider this a problem, but choosing which way you will adapt the transmission onto the Redblock will determine how you effectively get it done. The Deeworks way, Yoshifab way or Ben's way. I am using Bens way.
The first thread is here and the questions I had from thread 1 are,
1. Is there a specific flywheel I need to use that works with lh2.2? If so, which one? If not, can I use the stock T5 flywheel from 1989?
Answer: Any flywheel is fine, flat or dog dish, as long as it is a Volvo flywheel. For my swap, I am using a flat flywheel.
2. Is it correct that I can reuse the throw out bearing that's currently on my 740, or is it the release bearing I can reuse?
Answer: Throw out bearing and release bearing are different names for the same thing. For the swap, whether it be 240 or 740, you will need to use a different pilot bearing. Mustang pilot bearing has a little more depth to it, so I will be using that.
3. If I recall correctly, the bellhousing from a hydraulic clutch is different then that of a cable clutch bellhousing. My idea was to get the bellhousing mounted to the trans before I pulled the engine. Would I need another hydraulic clutch bellhousing to do this or can I use a cable one? Would they both work?
Answer: Yes, either will work. Different forks with pivot installed in different places.
4. Can I reuse the clutch fork?
Answer: Yes. The throwout bearing is the same between cable and hydro so they should both work. Yes, I know I said clutch fork. I have hydraulic so it will still work. That was a typo but still informative.
5. Do you know where I can get a cross member for a 740 w/ T5 or will I have to make my own
Answer: You will have to make your own.
Thanks to arsenix for the answers. Now onto what parts I currently have, what I am/will be using, what I still need to get AND some questions regarding the transmission itself.
I currently have,
1. 1989 WC T5 transmission from a V8 Mustang
2. Refinished flat flywheel
3. Short throw shifter
4. 2 piece drive shaft
5. T5 Slip Yoke. I will be using this slip yoke
6. Pilot bearing. I will be using this pilot bearing
I am aware that I am missing stuff right now but I have not moved forward with buying anything else yet because I want to make sure that I am buying the correct thing.
What I currently need,
1. Clutch and pressure plate. For this I will be using Yoshifabs stage 3 setup.
2. Speedometer cable. For this I will be using Yoshifabs T5 mechanical speedometer cable
3. Modified Bell Housing. Ben from Kaphlenke racing will help with this.
4. Release/Throwout bearing. I am probably going to use this throwout bearing
…….. NOW for additional questions regarding the transmission.
I am well aware that a T5 swap into a 740 will cause the shifter to basically be completely underneath the fuse box. There is a way to correct this but it requires some heavy alterations/modifications to the car and transmission itself.
A remedy to this that I have learned is to use the tailshaft from a T5 trans that was in a Comaro. This tailshaft will allow the shifter to basically sit right where the stock shifter sits. I know Ford and Chevy T5's are different lengths, so does anyone know what year T5 Camaro tailshaft I need to use with my 89 T5 in order for it to work? I pray someone has this answer! Thank you!
______________________
So for those who are not aware, I am currently preparing to swap a 1989 World Class T5 transmission into my 1989 740. My 740 utilizes hydraulic clutch and is not cable clutch.
Firstly, I will sum up some of the problems I have encountered so far.
1. There is virtually no information of T5 swaps into a 740 online. 98.99999% of T5 swaps completed are for 240's
2. Most of the things out there made for the swap are made for a T5 swap into a 240, although some of the parts can be used on a 740
3. I wouldn't consider this a problem, but choosing which way you will adapt the transmission onto the Redblock will determine how you effectively get it done. The Deeworks way, Yoshifab way or Ben's way. I am using Bens way.
The first thread is here and the questions I had from thread 1 are,
1. Is there a specific flywheel I need to use that works with lh2.2? If so, which one? If not, can I use the stock T5 flywheel from 1989?
Answer: Any flywheel is fine, flat or dog dish, as long as it is a Volvo flywheel. For my swap, I am using a flat flywheel.
2. Is it correct that I can reuse the throw out bearing that's currently on my 740, or is it the release bearing I can reuse?
Answer: Throw out bearing and release bearing are different names for the same thing. For the swap, whether it be 240 or 740, you will need to use a different pilot bearing. Mustang pilot bearing has a little more depth to it, so I will be using that.
3. If I recall correctly, the bellhousing from a hydraulic clutch is different then that of a cable clutch bellhousing. My idea was to get the bellhousing mounted to the trans before I pulled the engine. Would I need another hydraulic clutch bellhousing to do this or can I use a cable one? Would they both work?
Answer: Yes, either will work. Different forks with pivot installed in different places.
4. Can I reuse the clutch fork?
Answer: Yes. The throwout bearing is the same between cable and hydro so they should both work. Yes, I know I said clutch fork. I have hydraulic so it will still work. That was a typo but still informative.
5. Do you know where I can get a cross member for a 740 w/ T5 or will I have to make my own
Answer: You will have to make your own.
Thanks to arsenix for the answers. Now onto what parts I currently have, what I am/will be using, what I still need to get AND some questions regarding the transmission itself.
I currently have,
1. 1989 WC T5 transmission from a V8 Mustang
2. Refinished flat flywheel
3. Short throw shifter
4. 2 piece drive shaft
5. T5 Slip Yoke. I will be using this slip yoke
6. Pilot bearing. I will be using this pilot bearing
I am aware that I am missing stuff right now but I have not moved forward with buying anything else yet because I want to make sure that I am buying the correct thing.
What I currently need,
1. Clutch and pressure plate. For this I will be using Yoshifabs stage 3 setup.
2. Speedometer cable. For this I will be using Yoshifabs T5 mechanical speedometer cable
3. Modified Bell Housing. Ben from Kaphlenke racing will help with this.
4. Release/Throwout bearing. I am probably going to use this throwout bearing
…….. NOW for additional questions regarding the transmission.
I am well aware that a T5 swap into a 740 will cause the shifter to basically be completely underneath the fuse box. There is a way to correct this but it requires some heavy alterations/modifications to the car and transmission itself.
A remedy to this that I have learned is to use the tailshaft from a T5 trans that was in a Comaro. This tailshaft will allow the shifter to basically sit right where the stock shifter sits. I know Ford and Chevy T5's are different lengths, so does anyone know what year T5 Camaro tailshaft I need to use with my 89 T5 in order for it to work? I pray someone has this answer! Thank you!
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