245 TDI project - Page 2

WheyDey · 05-14-2007, 06:00 AM

i actually cannot wait to see this thing billowing black smoke at four hundred hp. eating your own words ftw.

VQ · 05-14-2007, 06:06 AM

I don't see why you would want 200RWHP, the economy would be similar to a petrol engine once you get to those levels of fueling.....

DMFWallace · 05-14-2007, 06:29 AM

awesome swap idea. Hope everything works out!

JohnMc · 05-14-2007, 09:25 AM

Awesome. I found Acme Adapters on the internet years ago and ever since then I've been occasionally thinking about a TDI in an older, lighter weight Volvo. Like a 2250 lb (with B18) PV, that would really scoot even with a stock TDI, much less a pepped up one.

The fun fact about tweaked TDI's is that they only use the extra fuel when you have the pedal on the floor. Drive them normally and they'll still get the original MPG (or at least really close). You tweak them to get more fuel and air in them at full output, but at lwoer power settings the same amount of fuel is required.

oldschoolvolvo · 05-14-2007, 10:03 AM

very cool swap

MrBill · 05-14-2007, 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vee_Que

I don't see why you would want 200RWHP, the economy would be similar to a petrol engine once you get to those levels of fueling.....

no way man, do you know how diesels work?
They make power power by shoveling the most amount of air into the same spot. They have no throttle plate, its all controlled by how much fuel you thrown in, and then how much boost it makes.

So it can still keep the stock fueling, and when needed, throw more air in (bigger turbo or more boost) when it needs

if anything it will be more efficient

Tabor · 05-14-2007, 10:25 AM

Please tell me you are going to fab up custom intake and exhaust manifolds. That engine begs for them, and you have ROOM!

sdturbo · 05-14-2007, 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tabor

Please tell me you are going to fab up custom intake and exhaust manifolds. That engine begs for them, and you have ROOM!

Yes, I have a BIG bag of weld ells and im just waiting on my flanges to show up. Stock intake mani is staying with a little modification.

jpbturbo · 05-14-2007, 11:46 AM

I want!

Tabor · 05-14-2007, 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sdturbo

Yes, I have a BIG bag of weld ells and im just waiting on my flanges to show up. Stock intake mani is staying with a little modification.

Dude, you have soo much room! Just mount quad 13c's in front of the engine! You can get them for cheap on here!

WheyDey · 05-14-2007, 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tabor

Dude, you have soo much room! Just mount quad 13c's in front of the engine! You can get them for cheap on here!

so much room??? you could just slap on another tiny diesel engine and voom its off to the tractor pull.

Hank Scorpio · 05-14-2007, 12:50 PM

That is great! It'd be the only time I wouldn't bitch about having to work on a VW motor LOL.

Biesey · 05-14-2007, 03:14 PM

that engine is tiny, how heavy is it compared to the Volvo? from the look of it you'll have a nice weight balance.

jpbturbo · 05-14-2007, 03:49 PM

I've been driving around this past week in a 96 1.9TD jetta.
Maybe once the chassis rusts out I can convince the fiance to let me swap it into a 240.

Mueller · 05-14-2007, 04:49 PM

looks like a great swap there Mike !!!

for those that don't "get it", they have never driven a modern nicely geared diesel car...people get hung up on the low HP numbers but don't realize that the available torque is phenomenol and addictive....drove a diesel Renault in France a few years ago and loved it, great around town car and it had no trouble cruising at 150kph on the highways which is faster than I'd drive around here on the freeways....

sdturbo · 05-14-2007, 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mueller

looks like a great swap there Mike !!!

Well my name is Josh but thanks

Mueller · 05-14-2007, 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sdturbo

Well my name is Josh but thanks

Sorry about that

How is the gearing on that transmission?

Will you need to change the rear diff gears to better match the transmission and engine??

sdturbo · 05-14-2007, 06:22 PM

The gearing seems nice

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_W_transmission#W58

It may end up a little lower in which case ill be swapping a 3.55 diff in.

barefoot · 05-14-2007, 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mueller

looks like a great swap there Mike !!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by sdturbo

Well my name is Josh but thanks

"Mike" is an honourary title around these parts.

With this swap, you've earnt it.

WheyDey · 05-14-2007, 06:36 PM

honorary mike ftw

WheyDey · 05-14-2007, 06:57 PM

20 minute double post is awesome too.

you may now resume normal activity.

mike114 · 05-15-2007, 12:17 AM

That's tight yo.
I was thinking of doing this myself... There's a TDI engine being sold locally here on CL for a G note, I'd go WVO all damn day long. But alas, my 245 only has 80 thousand original miles and I can't bare to rip it apart.

tjts1 · 05-15-2007, 01:08 AM

Very cool swap. Please keep up undated on this project.

sdturbo · 05-15-2007, 01:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mike114

That's tight yo.
I was thinking of doing this myself... There's a TDI engine being sold locally here on CL for a G note, I'd go WVO all damn day long. But alas, my 245 only has 80 thousand original miles and I can't bare to rip it apart.

wow, 1k. Thats insane cheap, i would pick that up in a heart beat.

Tabor · 05-15-2007, 01:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sdturbo

wow, 1k. Thats insane cheap, i would pick that up in a heart beat.

I have been known to buy and sell parts I never wanted for a profit.

05-14-2007, 06:00 AM	#26
WheyDey i fought the lawn Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Long Island New Yorks	i actually cannot wait to see this thing billowing black smoke at four hundred hp. eating your own words ftw. __________________ http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v312/JasonTomlins/Funny%20Pictures/1200267225490.gif

05-14-2007, 06:06 AM	#27
VQ Not such a PRVert Anymore Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Melbourne, Australia	I don't see why you would want 200RWHP, the economy would be similar to a petrol engine once you get to those levels of fueling..... __________________ hellastock Speed Bumps? No Problem. 264 GLE RIP 88 740T wagon 1964 122s 88 760GLE

05-14-2007, 06:29 AM	#28
DMFWallace Ignoramus Bigotus Join Date: May 2004 Location: Fredericksburg, VA	awesome swap idea. Hope everything works out! __________________ '90 244 - Too many memories to crush '92 944T - Need any 940 parts? '96 854 GLT - Not mine any more but still in the family '92 245 - For Sale? '97 854R - Waiting to get fixed '06 XC90 V8 - Family Hauler - Wifemobile '04 XC70 - Impulse buy of the year Feedback:http://forums.turbobricks.com/showth...ght=dmfwallace

05-14-2007, 09:25 AM	#29
JohnMc PV Abuser Join Date: May 2004 Location: St. Louis	Awesome. I found Acme Adapters on the internet years ago and ever since then I've been occasionally thinking about a TDI in an older, lighter weight Volvo. Like a 2250 lb (with B18) PV, that would really scoot even with a stock TDI, much less a pepped up one. The fun fact about tweaked TDI's is that they only use the extra fuel when you have the pedal on the floor. Drive them normally and they'll still get the original MPG (or at least really close). You tweak them to get more fuel and air in them at full output, but at lwoer power settings the same amount of fuel is required. __________________ '63 PV Rat Rod '93 245 16VT Classic #1141

05-14-2007, 10:03 AM	#30
oldschoolvolvo Board Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Lancaster, PA	very cool swap __________________ -Mike ~~1998 V70 T5~~ 1979 242 DL \|Feedback\|

05-14-2007, 10:25 AM	#32
Tabor volvoholic Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Portland, OR	Please tell me you are going to fab up custom intake and exhaust manifolds. That engine begs for them, and you have ROOM! __________________ 1983 Volvo 245T with too many mods to list 1975 Volvo 242DL PARTING OUT pm me for parts!

05-14-2007, 12:50 PM	#37
Hank Scorpio Chubfest 2009 Survivor Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The neighborhood with the ******* guitar player.	That is great! It'd be the only time I wouldn't bitch about having to work on a VW motor LOL. __________________ Hank Scorpio is from the Simpsons. You can call me Doug ;) Will trade guitars/guitar parts for go fast goodies or stuff I need. Just PM. www.kauerguitars.com the second best way to upset neighbors and alienate people. History: Car 1 (242) \| Car 2 (t5r) \| Car 3 (255)

05-14-2007, 03:14 PM	#38
Biesey Board Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Abbotsford BC	that engine is tiny, how heavy is it compared to the Volvo? from the look of it you'll have a nice weight balance.

05-14-2007, 03:49 PM	#39
jpbturbo Mens Classic Fit Polo Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Mr. Lee's Greater Hong Kong #28604	I've been driving around this past week in a 96 1.9TD jetta. Maybe once the chassis rusts out I can convince the fiance to let me swap it into a 240.

05-14-2007, 04:49 PM	#40
Mueller Board Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Antioch, CA	looks like a great swap there Mike !!! for those that don't "get it", they have never driven a modern nicely geared diesel car...people get hung up on the low HP numbers but don't realize that the available torque is phenomenol and addictive....drove a diesel Renault in France a few years ago and loved it, great around town car and it had no trouble cruising at 150kph on the highways which is faster than I'd drive around here on the freeways.... __________________ .........

05-14-2007, 06:22 PM	#43
sdturbo Board Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: San Diego CA	The gearing seems nice http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_W_transmission#W58 It may end up a little lower in which case ill be swapping a 3.55 diff in.

05-14-2007, 06:36 PM	#45
WheyDey i fought the lawn Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Long Island New Yorks	honorary mike ftw

05-14-2007, 06:57 PM	#46
WheyDey i fought the lawn Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Long Island New Yorks	20 minute double post is awesome too. you may now resume normal activity.

05-15-2007, 12:17 AM	#47
mike114 Board Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Boston, MA	That's tight yo. I was thinking of doing this myself... There's a TDI engine being sold locally here on CL for a G note, I'd go WVO all damn day long. But alas, my 245 only has 80 thousand original miles and I can't bare to rip it apart. __________________ 1990 245 M47

05-15-2007, 01:08 AM	#48
tjts1 Board Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Smellingham, WA	Very cool swap. Please keep up undated on this project. __________________ Greed is good. tits for president

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