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Old 03-28-2022, 05:08 AM   #1
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Question Will it ping, knock, detonate?

Hello,
Planning to +t the b230e (with lh2.4 swap from b230f) engine.

At the moment I have:
- b230e (10.3:1 CR), with ~11.7bar (170psi) at all 4 cyls
- V cam
- full lh2.4 swap from b230f
- 95 RON fuel

Planning to put TD04HL13T turbo

The question is, how much boost that setup could safely handle? Without pinging, detonating, knocking?
Maybe someone had similar build and could share some advice?
Thanks

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getting turbo computers soon (probably from b230ft), green giants (to run w/o resistor pack), adjustable fpr, mbc, wideband and a pretty huge intercooler

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Old 03-28-2022, 06:57 AM   #2
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1-2 psi should work flawlessly on regular gasoline.
!0 psi and above with E85


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Old 03-28-2022, 08:23 AM   #3
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Thanks for the answer.

Forgot to mention:
Getting turbo computers soon (prob. from b230ft), green giants (to run w/o resistor pack), adjustable fpr, mbc, and a wideband
and a pretty huge intercooler

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Old 03-29-2022, 04:14 PM   #4
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No turbo computers? No boost.

Turbo computers with proper tune? Some boost. Probably as much as the little 13T can do before it starts throwing hot air.
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Old 03-30-2022, 03:41 AM   #5
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Boosting a 230E is like voting Democrat and hoping for lower gas prices....
Reduce compression to around 8:1 and boost happily ever after.


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Old 03-30-2022, 10:56 AM   #6
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No turbo computers? No boost.

Turbo computers with proper tune? Some boost. Probably as much as the little 13T can do before it starts throwing hot air.
Getting 984 ecu very very soon.
I guess it will arrive even faster than turbo by itself
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Old 03-30-2022, 11:03 AM   #7
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How stock can sprout?
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Old 03-30-2022, 12:57 PM   #8
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How stock can sprout?
Pretty easy on the coast or the PNW.
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You'll want a camshaft with more duration to get the dynamic compression lower to help prevent knock/detonation. A K cam or similar would be the minimum, I'd think! Set the intake clearances a bit on the tight side as well to bleed off a little extra.

Also, there's zero need for an adjustable FPR because the car will just tune itself around it. It may or may not like the Green Giants, either, I can't remember if they're within a reasonable adaption range for the stock tuning. They're also complete overkill for a 13C. I'd recommend something smaller.
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Boosting a 230E is like voting Democrat and hoping for lower gas prices....
Or voting Republican and thinking they care about people who work for a living.
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Old 05-14-2022, 01:51 PM   #11
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I think the old 1980’s technology computers will be your limiting factor. People boost those engines in the high 9’s static successfully with different engine management.
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