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Old 07-17-2019, 03:51 PM   #26
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Nice ride. Fun too. I ultimately sold mine due to the ride over bumps- I thought my teeth were going to rattle out. However, I do miss those seats! That said, the struts from a v70 AWD car will work and you can remove the sensors from your current 4C to trick the control module. Just a thought (budget conscience).
Also, I am now fresh out of the Volvo game, and have a laptop loaded with VIDA and a barely used DICE unit I have no use for. PM if interested.
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Old 07-17-2019, 06:28 PM   #27
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>Buys a car to replace the B2200
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Old 07-17-2019, 09:37 PM   #28
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Old 07-17-2019, 09:45 PM   #29
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These cars aren't very fun to work on. So this is how typically goes. Not a big deal if you're patient. It seems like you are a patient person.
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Old 07-17-2019, 10:21 PM   #30
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These cars aren't very fun to work on. So this is how typically goes. Not a big deal if you're patient. It seems like you are a patient person.
I guess. Methodical at least.

The goal will be to stay ahead of the 8-ball with this thing and address issues before they're problems when I can.
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Old 07-18-2019, 08:35 AM   #31
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The goal will be to stay ahead of the 8-ball with this thing and address issues before they're problems when I can.
That's the only way to own one imo. They aren't bad if you just replace things as they need them.
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Old 07-18-2019, 08:59 AM   #32
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yeah that's about the size of it. Mine hasn't done anything spastic despite being OMG 04 SUX, just regular maintenance stuff.

that being said, mine will likely be for sale sometime this year as well. doesn't fit the eventual project goals and I've already got too large of a collection of crap to warrant having it laying around rotting away
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Old 07-23-2019, 04:49 PM   #33
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That's a nice car!

If not yet done, get an IC upgrade, you'll thank me for that. I had a DO88 IC on my S60R, huge improvement.
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Old 07-23-2019, 05:18 PM   #34
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Thanks. It's got a Snabb IC on it already. It's back on the road now, and leak-free.

I need to address a coil harness that has some cracking insulation, and then it'll be at 100% until something else breaks.
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Old 07-23-2019, 05:46 PM   #35
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That's about 1000% normal.
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Old 08-01-2019, 10:12 AM   #36
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I need to address a coil harness that has some cracking insulation, and then it'll be at 100% until something else breaks.
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Old 08-01-2019, 10:20 AM   #37
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please do not put moose stickers on it
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Old 08-01-2019, 05:30 PM   #38
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please do not put moose stickers on it
Aw, c'mon, not even a Mooseyes sticker on the airbox or a Pegamoose on the trunk lid?
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Old 08-01-2019, 06:13 PM   #39
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Aw, c'mon, not even a Mooseyes sticker on the airbox or a Pegamoose on the trunk lid?
I’m just not a sticker guy! The trunk lid would be better than the front fenders at least.
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Old 10-10-2019, 11:34 AM   #40
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Well R ownership is going exactly as I expected lol

The car is a lot of fun, but after a weekend of hard driving at MountainMeet, a faint clunk in the front driver's side suspension got noticeably worse. It was diagnosed as bad spring seats, so I ordered new seats, ball joints, tie rods, and endlinks.

Got through replacing the passenger side yesterday, tackling the driver's side tonight.

Unfortunately I discovered that the 4C strut on the passenger side is effectively dead. Still rides fine and isn't throwing a code, but there's really no resistance on compression and it doesn't rebound.

I'm sort of torn on what to do. It's actually cheaper to buy a complete BC coilover setup for the car, and after talking to a couple people that own them, they seem very pleased with them.

KWs are an option, though more expensive.

I could overhaul the 4C through FCP and just use their lifetime warranty the next time they fail, but the same argument could be made for the BC coilover kit purchased through FCP.

My biggest concern is that I don't want to look at error messages every time I start the car, and I don't want to lose the adaptive throttle or DSTC. I guess that means I'll be cutting the inductors out of the original struts and hiding them somewhere to fool the system.

I also need to replace the LDP apparently. That's not too bad though, about $75 it seems.
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Old 10-10-2019, 12:12 PM   #41
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Well R ownership is going exactly as I expected lol

The car is a lot of fun, but after a weekend of hard driving at MountainMeet, a faint clunk in the front driver's side suspension got noticeably worse. It was diagnosed as bad spring seats, so I ordered new seats, ball joints, tie rods, and endlinks.

Got through replacing the passenger side yesterday, tackling the driver's side tonight.

Unfortunately I discovered that the 4C strut on the passenger side is effectively dead. Still rides fine and isn't throwing a code, but there's really no resistance on compression and it doesn't rebound.

I'm sort of torn on what to do. It's actually cheaper to buy a complete BC coilover setup for the car, and after talking to a couple people that own them, they seem very pleased with them.

KWs are an option, though more expensive.

I could overhaul the 4C through FCP and just use their lifetime warranty the next time they fail, but the same argument could be made for the BC coilover kit purchased through FCP.

My biggest concern is that I don't want to look at error messages every time I start the car, and I don't want to lose the adaptive throttle or DSTC. I guess that means I'll be cutting the inductors out of the original struts and hiding them somewhere to fool the system.

I also need to replace the LDP apparently. That's not too bad though, about $75 it seems.
Bah, don't buy BC.
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Bah, don't buy BC.
Why not? I've talked to three people that have the BR setup on their P2Rs and they all really like them.
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Old 10-10-2019, 02:40 PM   #43
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I got the front struts off amazon a couple years ago. probably about due on the rears now. Also have a clunk that got worse at MM, could be strut mount (I have those already, they were supposed to be replaced this summer, but... reasons), but I think mine is going to be lower suspension/swaybar related... even though I replaced the end links and a couple other odds and ends when I did the struts. reckon I'll see what's up when I get it on the lift.

what's the ldp?
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Leak Detection Pump. A couple days ago, I started to get a dash message that said "fuel filler cap open-loose" and Erik says that's almost always an indication that the pump has gone bad. I guess it has something to do with detecting the integrity of the fuel evap system.
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Why not? I've talked to three people that have the BR setup on their P2Rs and they all really like them.
Maybe I am misinformed, but I don't think they involve as much or any sketchy welding or cutting compared to an install on a 240. In that case I think they would be worth a shot.
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Maybe I am misinformed, but I don't think they involve as much or any sketchy welding or cutting compared to an install on a 240. In that case I think they would be worth a shot.
They don't. They're bolt-in.
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Leak Detection Pump. A couple days ago, I started to get a dash message that said "fuel filler cap open-loose" and Erik says that's almost always an indication that the pump has gone bad. I guess it has something to do with detecting the integrity of the fuel evap system.
oh, on mine it was just the gas cap. check there first, make sure the gasket isn't cracked.
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Old 10-11-2019, 02:11 AM   #48
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it's hard to find a well maintained 06- m66 R. I was looking for one earlier in the year and couldn't find any near San Jose. Nice purchase!
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Leak Detection Pump. A couple days ago, I started to get a dash message that said "fuel filler cap open-loose" and Erik says that's almost always an indication that the pump has gone bad. I guess it has something to do with detecting the integrity of the fuel evap system.
You've bought VIDA right? Otherwise it is just a parts cannon and that gets REALLY expensive.

Personally, I've never seen that error be the leak detection pump. Typically it is a big leak somewhere- like the gas cap, or maybe the evap line under the car has separated.

With VIDA, you'll do a 5 minute evap test. It will tell you if the pump is running, and if there is a leak, how big. Then you can narrow it down.

Any time I've seen a leak detection pump failure, it threw a check engine light, not a cap loose message.

I've only ridden in one car with BC suspension, it knocked like crazy. But it was old at the time.

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So the fuel cap message actually went away...maybe it was just a loose cap. Interesting.

Found my clunk in the front left...it was a combination of a worn ball joint and loose swaybar endlink. New spring seats, ball joints, endlinks, and outer tie rod end, aligned on Saturday morning, at the Dragon Saturday afternoon.

The car performed really well. Derrick in the Miata is still quicker through the turns which is...bothersome, but that car is worked over pretty well. Still only 1/3 of the power tho. Argh.

Best bang for the buck would probably be a set of stickier tires, but these truthfully aren't bad. It does have a tendency to understeer/push if you romp on it in a turn too hard, but if you keep it below the limit and listen when the car talks back, it is really more than capable. It ran down a number of cars this weekend, and the only one I was consistently slower than was Derrick.

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