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Old 07-06-2018, 08:53 PM   #1
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Last week, I swapped out the spark plugs (gapped to .03") about 10 minutes after driving to the parts store to get dielectric grease and coming back. The engine was still decently hot, but it did have a little bit of time to cool down. I read that you should always change plugs when the head is cold if it's made of aluminum. I'm a little paranoid that I might've done something wrong. And I tightened them down hand tight with 1/8 turn after from an 8" rachet to be a snug fit. It's been driving fine, a lot better actually since the old plugs had a .04", just wondering if I swapped/installed the new ones wrong.
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Old 07-06-2018, 09:09 PM   #2
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I believe it is aluminum. And you will be fine. I hope you used anti-seize on the threads.
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Old 07-06-2018, 09:12 PM   #3
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I believe it is aluminum. And you will be fine. I hope you used anti-seize on the threads.
The Bosch copper ones I got apparently have a zinc coating, so I don't need anti seize. I untightened one earlier today while the engine was stone cold and it came out fine.
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Old 07-06-2018, 09:19 PM   #4
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Head is aluminum. Do not use antiseize on your plugs.
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Head is aluminum. Do not use antiseize on your plugs.

Yeah cause then they'll come out easier next time and you couldn't have a 37 page 200+ post thread about what you did getting them out..

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I believe it is aluminum. And you will be fine. I hope you used anti-seize on the threads.
Yeah don’t use anti-seize on plug threads
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Old 07-06-2018, 09:56 PM   #7
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Yeah don’t use anti-seize on plug threads
Another expert...Hey when you make a preposterous claim, it would help all of us noobies to know why we should or shouldn't. ya know? REASONs for doing or not doing..

Because otherwise it's just noise.
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Yeah cause then they'll come out easier next time and you couldn't have a 37 page 200+ post thread about what you did getting them out..

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Um. Ngk says not to use anti seize.

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Old 07-06-2018, 10:14 PM   #9
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Newer plugs such as NGK say not to use anti-seize on them because the plug already has a special coating to prevent them from seizing in the head and also affects the torque. I still put a SMALL dab on the plugs when I change them. I also don't crank them down as if they were head bolts. Even with a small dab at times they are still tough to remove. For ME it helps.
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Old 07-06-2018, 10:17 PM   #10
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Some plugs don't have the "silver" finish and these do require a small amount of A.S. on them.
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Old 07-06-2018, 10:18 PM   #11
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No anti seize? Say what?! Pffffft im with john on this one. I use the copper stuff anyway silver sucks.

A 530 is made of compacted unicorn dust btw.
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Old 07-06-2018, 10:27 PM   #12
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I have always used anti seize on the spark plugs,I have a nickel/ copper anti seize. Never had an issue with getting the plugs out. On my wife's car that we have had for 19 years now, never a problem with the plugs.
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No anti seize? Say what?! Pffffft im with john on this one. I use the copper stuff anyway silver sucks.

A 530 is made of compacted unicorn dust btw.
Ah now I get it, no wonder the 530 head sucks. I heard they get Odin's dandruff, melt it, and cast 531 heads with it.
But Bosch themselves say that the wr7dc+ (they are copper plugs, but the threads have a shiny silver finish) plug threads are zinc plated so anti seize is not necessary.
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I have always used anti seize on the spark plugs,I have a nickel/ copper anti seize. Never had an issue with getting the plugs out. On my wife's car that we have had for 19 years now, never a problem with the plugs.
And I don't think it's a problem with being able to take them out, but adding anti seize on top of the zinc plated threads would cause a problem in torquing the plugs down.
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I find it funny how you ask what the 530 head is made of but when others give advice you say no no no they say this. If you don't know what the head is made of how are you to tell others what not to do?
Im not trying to be a dick but just pointing that out.
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I find it funny how you ask what the 530 head is made of but when others give advice you say no no no they say this. If you don't know what the head is made of how are you to tell others what not to do?
Im not trying to be a dick but just pointing that out.
Uhhh...I don't think I told people I don't agree that it's made of aluminum. In fact, I'm pretty sure I didn't disagree with the people saying it's made of aluminum, I was just playing along with your unicorn dust joke. And I'm not telling others what not to do, I'm just saying that apparently anti seize is not necessary on zinc plated threads according to NGK and Bosch.
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Another expert...Hey when you make a preposterous claim, it would help all of us noobies to know why we should or shouldn't. ya know? REASONs for doing or not doing..

Because otherwise it's just noise.
Haha only said that to piss you off. You’re too easy, Jon.

If you’re going to use anti seize on the threads, use it sparingly and reduce torque by 30% as per NGKs words.

530 and 531 head are both cast aluminum.

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Thank you and everyone else. You too, John.
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Old 07-07-2018, 12:25 AM   #20
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I always use a little drop of oil... never had one seize.
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It's made of meat. Also, use meat on your plugs.

Pure meat.
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Since NGK has always given directions like "3/4 turn after contact", and most "techs" ignore torque specs, this is a rather silly argument.
Want your **** to come back apart? Want things to maintain proper electrical contact without corrosion? Use anti-sieze of some sort. I have aluminum, copper, and nickel. Want to keep oil or water somewhere? Use teflon paste. Want to stop loosening? use some sort of thread-locker (but not in a high-heat area).

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Haha only said that to piss you off. You’re too easy, Jon.

If you’re going to use anti seize on the threads, use it sparingly and reduce torque by 30% as per NGKs words.

530 and 531 head are both cast aluminum.

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Uhhh...I don't think I told people I don't agree that it's made of aluminum. In fact, I'm pretty sure I didn't disagree with the people saying it's made of aluminum, I was just playing along with your unicorn dust joke. And I'm not telling others what not to do, I'm just saying that apparently anti seize is not necessary on zinc plated threads according to NGK and Bosch.

Has nuthin to do with nuthin..Every bolt on the car is zinc plated..MOST every spark plug has been zinc plated---except a very few which have a black phosphate finish--for decades...At least back to the late 50s... Heat, electrolysis. and carbon fouling, and since OBD-2, plugs sitting in the heads for 100k miles is what we're trying to mitigate.
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Since NGK has always given directions like "3/4 turn after contact", and most "techs" ignore torque specs, this is a rather silly argument.
Want your **** to come back apart? Want things to maintain proper electrical contact without corrosion? Use anti-sieze of some sort. I have aluminum, copper, and nickel. Want to keep oil or water somewhere? Use teflon paste. Want to stop loosening? use some sort of thread-locker (but not in a high-heat area).

Party on.

What kind of BS logic is that Mike, come on now.


Been using anti-seize on my plugs, into iron or aluminum, for the last, oh, 20 years. So far to date, I've had 1 plug get stuck that took more than the normal force to remove. I've had 0 threads pulled, and 0 plugs come out, so yeah, I'm on the DO use AS bandwagon.


So Mike, oil in the cylinders, you'd need to use teflon paste to seal it, thread locker to keep the plugs in place, and anti-seize so you can remove them next time right?
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