Squirterizational mod RENTAL KIT for INCREASED PERFORMANCE - Page 5

Mueller · 07-22-2008, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by volvo-slyder

yeee yeee i guess just pm me when your finished and ill give you my address,,,

JohnV,

Mind if I get the kit after volvo-slyder?? I pass by his house almost everyday on my way to work....motor is ready, just need the squirters and the kit....

tried calling you a while ago today...phone rang, rang and rang

John V, outside agitator · 07-23-2008, 02:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Mueller

JohnV,

Mind if I get the kit after volvo-slyder?? I pass by his house almost everyday on my way to work....motor is ready, just need the squirters and the kit....

tried calling you a while ago today...phone rang, rang and rang

Sure, no problem.

Call in the morning about 0930, today drove wifey and a friend to a Job Fair and minded the kiddies while they looked for work.

volvo-slyder · 07-23-2008, 04:07 PM

pm'd with shipping details

Mueller · 07-27-2008, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by volvo-slyder

pm'd with shipping details

Hey Dave, what is the ETA of the kit?

JohnV, do you have the squirters in stock?

rdeeming · 07-28-2008, 03:03 PM

The ETA is it should ship out tomorrow to Davie.

rdeeming · 07-29-2008, 03:02 PM

Its off to CA

Mueller · 07-29-2008, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by rdeeming

Its off to CA

yea !!!!

John, did you get my PM, need 2 sets of squirters, let me know how you want payment....

rdeeming · 08-03-2008, 10:12 AM

Just a side note for those doing this. Wait until you have the crank and rods in before putting the final torque to these things with red loctite. It is a close fit in there if you have not shaved your crank down to nothing.

Thanks JV for making and loaning this kit out.

volvo-slyder · 08-05-2008, 03:52 PM

yea thanks Jon V went really good , only took like an hour

kit is now with mueller as of yesterday...

Mueller · 08-07-2008, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by volvo-slyder

yea thanks Jon V went really good , only took like an hour

kit is now with mueller as of yesterday...

finally found time to use the kit....did my B230 block and an extra B21F block I had laying around (for sale??

)

JohnV, I'll send the kit back to you on Friday.....PM'd you the UPS tracking number on 8/08/08

John V, outside agitator · 08-13-2008, 02:12 AM

mueller and VolvoSlyder, I sent the squirters to Slyder-boy Priority mail today.

Got the kit back.

Hey are all the Pommes ready to borrow the kit?

Mueller · 08-13-2008, 02:16 AM

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Originally Posted by John V, outside agitator

mueller and VolvoSlyder, I sent the squirters to Slyder-boy Priority mail today.

Got the kit back.

Hey are all the Pommes ready to borrow the kit?

cool.....wanted to make a nice bag/pouch for the kit, ran out of time....showed one of my blocks to the engine machine shop today, he was impressed !!!!

BILLBARD · 08-13-2008, 03:22 PM

Hello Marc and All:
I was just reading John V's write up on squirters. A useful writeup John, thanks. I've just installed a built up '93 B230FT engine in my car and it runs beautifully! As I was reading the thread, Marc, I came upon your mention of the different volumes of B230 oil pumps. When I was building my B230FT I didn't rebuild the oil pump as I had one I had rebuilt for a Turbo-ised B23E I built a few years ago. "It was fresh so why not use it", I thought. The statement you made about the different sized gears made me go and measure the difference in the pump gears. The B230FT gears are 5 mm. larger. Now, I'm uncertain if the pump in my new engine has the large volume or regular volume pump, I'll have to find out myself, obviously. In light of the fact the oil pressure came up fast when I primed the engine at startup and it seems to hold oil pressure well, I don't feel too uncomfortable. The question might be, what risk will I run by continuing to use the possibly low volume pump? Does anyone have any suggestions?
Bill Bard
'92 940FT
Ross pistons, Mechart Rods.

Quote:

Originally Posted by YLD244

Also, blocks that came with the squirters had the high volume oil pumps, where the gears were around 3mm taller, to allow for the extra amount of flow that the squirters required.

Do you recommend that people performing this mod upgrade to the high volume pump???

JERIC · 09-28-2008, 11:25 AM

John is the kit avalible yet? And is it same install for B20 motors and how much are the squirtes and do you have them instock
JEric

BB-Q · 09-29-2008, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by John V, outside agitator

mueller and VolvoSlyder, I sent the squirters to Slyder-boy Priority mail today.

Got the kit back.

Hey are all the Pommes ready to borrow the kit?

I'll ask around via PM. I know I've got three blocks I need to do (unless the B234's are already drilled for them- a possibility, I'm told).

What's the deal with the squirters? Are you supplying them and if so, how much?

Mueller · 10-03-2008, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by BB-Q

I'll ask around via PM. I know I've got three blocks I need to do (unless the B234's are already drilled for them- a possibility, I'm told).

What's the deal with the squirters? Are you supplying them and if so, how much?

as of a few weeks ago he was, just picked up a set for one of my motors....cute little things

bdimag · 10-14-2008, 04:45 PM

so i can use just a regular drill for this? is that what i read? not a press or anything?

Mueller · 10-14-2008, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by bdimag

so i can use just a regular drill for this? is that what i read? not a press or anything?

yep, regular hand held drill motor works fine...I just used a battery powered Makita

SteveMD · 10-20-2008, 02:33 PM

Who is next for this, the Brits? If so, I'm in Maryland with only the North Atlantic between me and them. I can send it over to them after I drill and tap this block I have sitting around.

bdimag · 11-03-2008, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by MrSteve

I'm in Maryland

dang i wish i was ready...

SteveMD · 11-03-2008, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by bdimag

dang i wish i was ready...

Well, I pm'd John V a week or 2 ago and no word back.

John V, outside agitator · 11-05-2008, 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrSteve

Well, I pm'd John V a week or 2 ago and no word back.

Sorry, been getting done with a hugely overdue car project then getting some overdue suspension stuff done and delivered.
Gotta pay the rent, ya know.

And as you know, the phone works best. Ask anybody.

I thought the Anglais were ready so maybe it can come BUT NOT SIT THERE FOR 4 MONTHS.

Hey BB-Q! What's up, you Pommes ready for this kit?

BB-Q · 11-05-2008, 06:07 PM

No John. I've asked around and everyone but me already has a squirter block.

Consequently it may be a bit of a waste of effort to send it over just for me. I've recently managed to tame a machine shop, so I'm going to ask them how much they want to do the work or if they'll let me use the mill at lunchtime or whatever. I don't think it'll be worth the time and effort to get this kit over just for one guy.

Put me to the back of the queue for now- I'll let you know if I need it, mate.

240driver · 12-04-2008, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Josepilove

what about the squirters themselves? where can i get them?

I've got the tooling to do this, but I'm not ready yet. Any chance I could get a part number so I can order them myself when the time comes? I've seen this question asked already and go unanswered.

The closest I saw was this:

Quote:

Check here... http://e30m3performance.com/installs...ters/index.htm

Sadly that's now a dead link.

gale · 12-05-2008, 10:30 PM

PN# 11 11 1 739 907
Those squirter bolts are hollow, so about 12 lbs-ft sounds good. And use red loctite those threads. RT suggested 242. I used 271: on clean, un-oiled threads. Loctite 271 has a viscosity equivalence during assembly/torqueing of Castrol SAE40 motor oil; so no prob of thread galling/seizure. Red loctite the squirter bolts to 12 lbs-ft, and they will stay in place and tight. For that low of a torque spec, you may need to use an inch-pound torque wrench, and go for 144 [145-150 will be good].

10-14-2008, 04:45 PM	#117
bdimag abandon all hope Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Northern VA	so i can use just a regular drill for this? is that what i read? not a press or anything? __________________ Brian 1991 244 2004 S60

12-05-2008, 10:30 PM	#125
gale Board Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Ontario Canada	PN# 11 11 1 739 907 Those squirter bolts are hollow, so about 12 lbs-ft sounds good. And use red loctite those threads. RT suggested 242. I used 271: on clean, un-oiled threads. Loctite 271 has a viscosity equivalence during assembly/torqueing of Castrol SAE40 motor oil; so no prob of thread galling/seizure. Red loctite the squirter bolts to 12 lbs-ft, and they will stay in place and tight. For that low of a torque spec, you may need to use an inch-pound torque wrench, and go for 144 [145-150 will be good]. __________________ "never rub another mans rhubarb"

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07-23-2008, 04:07 PM	#103
volvo-slyder Board Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: EastBay california	pm'd with shipping details

07-28-2008, 03:03 PM	#105
rdeeming -300 club Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Brighton, CO	The ETA is it should ship out tomorrow to Davie.

07-29-2008, 03:02 PM	#106
rdeeming -300 club Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Brighton, CO	Its off to CA

08-03-2008, 10:12 AM	#108
rdeeming -300 club Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Brighton, CO	Just a side note for those doing this. Wait until you have the crank and rods in before putting the final torque to these things with red loctite. It is a close fit in there if you have not shaved your crank down to nothing. Thanks JV for making and loaning this kit out.

08-05-2008, 03:52 PM	#109
volvo-slyder Board Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: EastBay california	yea thanks Jon V went really good , only took like an hour kit is now with mueller as of yesterday...

08-13-2008, 02:12 AM	#111
John V, outside agitator Board Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Sleezattle, WA, USA	mueller and VolvoSlyder, I sent the squirters to Slyder-boy Priority mail today. Got the kit back. Hey are all the Pommes ready to borrow the kit?

09-28-2008, 11:25 AM	#114
JERIC Board Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: SOUTH JERSEY	John is the kit avalible yet? And is it same install for B20 motors and how much are the squirtes and do you have them instock JEric

11-05-2008, 06:07 PM	#123
BB-Q (. )( .) Join Date: May 2005 Location: Costa del Fylde	No John. I've asked around and everyone but me already has a squirter block. Consequently it may be a bit of a waste of effort to send it over just for me. I've recently managed to tame a machine shop, so I'm going to ask them how much they want to do the work or if they'll let me use the mill at lunchtime or whatever. I don't think it'll be worth the time and effort to get this kit over just for one guy. Put me to the back of the queue for now- I'll let you know if I need it, mate.