Volvo 740 940 Series Rear Suspension PU Bushes

MadDog_945 · 06-19-2018, 07:06 AM

Hi,

does anyone have experience with this stuff from retroturbo?

http://www.retroturbo.com/?product=r...-pu-set-700900

thelostartof · 06-19-2018, 08:24 AM

While I have not used those bushings I can recommend that if you go that route over solid arms I would recommend welding up the subframe to make it stronger. Maybe even the same thing for the arms. We added some 1/4" aluminum to the arms when i used to run them with just new stock bushings and a welded frame and they held up to the abuse.

wujek · 06-19-2018, 09:04 AM

More improvement was to weld subframe and double sway bar than this.

MadDog_945 · 06-19-2018, 09:08 AM

Thanks tlao.. subframe is for shure to be welded

@ wujek, so you have them installed?

MadDog_945 · 06-20-2018, 02:22 AM

i could think of these bushings make the driving like because racecar :D

JerryJS8 · 06-20-2018, 05:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Homer

Just installed a set of the Kaplhenke Hybrid Torque Arms. The adjustable poly torque rods had to go. No more poly bushings on this car.
Thoroughly impressed with the change.
-Noticeable improvement in axle articulation
-Driveline judder is gone (when disengaging the clutch under load)
-More smootherer
-Driveline is smoother under load

Homer has spoken in his project log, pretty much sums up what I think about PU as well.

MadDog_945 · 06-20-2018, 06:32 AM

yeah.. but you cant tell if my popometer would say the same.. tzhe 16v is gonna be a streetracer.. not that i want to go for a holidayride nor is it a drive to work car, you know ;)

I believe homer uses his 255 as dailybitch..

Never had polybushes so far.. i could think of i would like the stiff handling and would turn the radio louder when its rumbly but.. you never know :D

MadDog_945 · 06-25-2018, 04:33 AM

haha.. found also aluminum bushings.. meh.. i will give them a try.. 90 bucks isnt that bad for a complete kit.. over at skandix the do cost 120 without the trailingarm body bushing which comes on top..

bmos · 06-27-2018, 06:17 PM

The thing with polyurethane bushings is that they only work ideally in applications where they experience forces that move in-line with the through bolt.
As in differential bushings, engine torque mounts, etc.

Most suspension bushings experience movement on multiple axes which is not ideal for a material as stiff as poly as they can bind if the durometer is too stiff.

The best race-y solution would be spherical links as they can move freely without binding on multiple axes, however, I haven't seen any options available.
This full rear suspension solution is available although I don't have any personal experience with it:
https://www.l-m-r.se/p/volvo/740-760...o-740-940.html

arsenix · 07-05-2018, 08:16 PM

That is pretty cool. Those clamshell bushings are usually shot to **** in 740's. Even the new ones are silly soft and cost $$$. On my cars these bushings always caused a lot of axle movement.

MadDog_945 · 07-06-2018, 02:38 AM

i ordered them.. will post some pics of the install and make something like a review.

But i cant really compare, because i have never had new ones :D But since this is my saturday evening hooncar it doesnt matter if its stiff and uncomfy.. Hauptsache es ballert ! :D

JerryJS8 · 07-06-2018, 10:53 AM

Ohhhhh it's sure to ballern!

MadDog_945 · 07-15-2018, 03:43 AM

has anyone seen the forward bushing as a replacement? skandix, ipd and all the others dont have this one in their shops??

mocambique-amazone · 07-15-2018, 06:39 AM

Ähem
https://www.skandix.de/en/search/?q=1001278

https://www.skandix.de/en/search/?q=1042413

https://www.skandix.de/en/search/?q=1001279

https://www.skandix.de/en/search/?q=1001281

nach welcher suchst Du denn Krister?

nimm beim Längslenker vorne kein PU, außer Du hast 500+PS, und die wird dein Elch nicht haben

Beste Grüße Kay

MadDog_945 · 07-15-2018, 11:27 AM

ahjo, als wenn du erfahrung haettest mit 500hp+ 9ern ;)

im talking about the single forward bushing from the subframe..

mocambique-amazone · 07-15-2018, 03:08 PM

letzter link
und 635PS, aber das ist eine ganz andere Geschichte und schon lange her, nix Volvo Motor, dafür legal, fährt mit holländischen Kennzeichen

Es werden keine Bilder gepostet, weil.......
und es ist echt lange her.

MadDog_945 · 07-15-2018, 05:32 PM

ahjo, falsch klug geschissen.. das sind die doppelten buchsen fuer hinten und nicht die einzelne, die im quertraeger sitzt :b

wujek · Yesterday, 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MadDog_945

Thanks tlao.. subframe is for shure to be welded

@ wujek, so you have them installed?

yes, retro turbo ones

06-19-2018, 07:06 AM	#1
MadDog_945 Våga Vägra 8V Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Lower Saxony	Volvo 740 940 Series Rear Suspension PU Bushes Hi, does anyone have experience with this stuff from retroturbo? http://www.retroturbo.com/?product=r...-pu-set-700900 __________________ '93 945 B234FT Build '93 245 Racecar KW-Headw0rX

06-19-2018, 08:24 AM	#2
thelostartof unbalanced chemical Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Apache Junction, AZ	While I have not used those bushings I can recommend that if you go that route over solid arms I would recommend welding up the subframe to make it stronger. Maybe even the same thing for the arms. We added some 1/4" aluminum to the arms when i used to run them with just new stock bushings and a welded frame and they held up to the abuse. __________________ Chip Feedback Thread / PM LH 2.4 Chip Prices

06-19-2018, 09:04 AM	#3
wujek Board Member Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: Lublin, Poland	More improvement was to weld subframe and double sway bar than this. __________________ '88 740 B230FT/531 header 38/46 valves, D cam + adj cam wheel, td04hl16t@20T cnc + 9blades exhaust, 440cm3 injectors 3" dp + 2,5" exhaust, easyecu3+ standalone, 302mm brakes, 18" pegasus wheels, rear louvre, 91' rear lamps, quad front headlights.

06-20-2018, 06:32 AM	#7
MadDog_945 Våga Vägra 8V Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Lower Saxony	yeah.. but you cant tell if my popometer would say the same.. tzhe 16v is gonna be a streetracer.. not that i want to go for a holidayride nor is it a drive to work car, you know ;) I believe homer uses his 255 as dailybitch.. Never had polybushes so far.. i could think of i would like the stiff handling and would turn the radio louder when its rumbly but.. you never know :D Last edited by MadDog_945; 06-20-2018 at 06:43 AM..

06-27-2018, 06:17 PM	#9
bmos Board Member Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: Cumberland, ME	The thing with polyurethane bushings is that they only work ideally in applications where they experience forces that move in-line with the through bolt. As in differential bushings, engine torque mounts, etc. Most suspension bushings experience movement on multiple axes which is not ideal for a material as stiff as poly as they can bind if the durometer is too stiff. The best race-y solution would be spherical links as they can move freely without binding on multiple axes, however, I haven't seen any options available. This full rear suspension solution is available although I don't have any personal experience with it: https://www.l-m-r.se/p/volvo/740-760...o-740-940.html Last edited by bmos; 06-27-2018 at 06:22 PM..

06-19-2018, 09:08 AM	#4
MadDog_945 Våga Vägra 8V Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Lower Saxony	Thanks tlao.. subframe is for shure to be welded @ wujek, so you have them installed?

06-20-2018, 02:22 AM	#5
MadDog_945 Våga Vägra 8V Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Lower Saxony	i could think of these bushings make the driving like because racecar :D

06-25-2018, 04:33 AM	#8
MadDog_945 Våga Vägra 8V Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Lower Saxony	haha.. found also aluminum bushings.. meh.. i will give them a try.. 90 bucks isnt that bad for a complete kit.. over at skandix the do cost 120 without the trailingarm body bushing which comes on top..

07-05-2018, 08:16 PM	#10
arsenix Board Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Milpitas, CA	That is pretty cool. Those clamshell bushings are usually shot to **** in 740's. Even the new ones are silly soft and cost $$$. On my cars these bushings always caused a lot of axle movement. __________________ 88' 740 GLE Wagon - B230FT, T5 Trans, MSII-extra, G80, 3" T->T Exhaust - - > Project Thread < - - My new project - 1990 740 SE Wagon

07-06-2018, 02:38 AM	#11
MadDog_945 Våga Vägra 8V Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Lower Saxony	i ordered them.. will post some pics of the install and make something like a review. But i cant really compare, because i have never had new ones :D But since this is my saturday evening hooncar it doesnt matter if its stiff and uncomfy.. Hauptsache es ballert ! :D

07-06-2018, 10:53 AM	#12
JerryJS8 der Junge Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Normal Saxony	Ohhhhh it's sure to ballern!

07-15-2018, 03:43 AM	#13
MadDog_945 Våga Vägra 8V Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Lower Saxony	has anyone seen the forward bushing as a replacement? skandix, ipd and all the others dont have this one in their shops??

07-15-2018, 06:39 AM	#14
mocambique-amazone Board Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Germany	Ähem https://www.skandix.de/en/search/?q=1001278 https://www.skandix.de/en/search/?q=1042413 https://www.skandix.de/en/search/?q=1001279 https://www.skandix.de/en/search/?q=1001281 nach welcher suchst Du denn Krister? nimm beim Längslenker vorne kein PU, außer Du hast 500+PS, und die wird dein Elch nicht haben Beste Grüße Kay

07-15-2018, 11:27 AM	#15
MadDog_945 Våga Vägra 8V Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Lower Saxony	ahjo, als wenn du erfahrung haettest mit 500hp+ 9ern ;) im talking about the single forward bushing from the subframe..

07-15-2018, 03:08 PM	#16
mocambique-amazone Board Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Germany	letzter link und 635PS, aber das ist eine ganz andere Geschichte und schon lange her, nix Volvo Motor, dafür legal, fährt mit holländischen Kennzeichen Es werden keine Bilder gepostet, weil....... und es ist echt lange her.

07-15-2018, 05:32 PM	#17
MadDog_945 Våga Vägra 8V Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Lower Saxony	ahjo, falsch klug geschissen.. das sind die doppelten buchsen fuer hinten und nicht die einzelne, die im quertraeger sitzt :b

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