Rich raises the bar on the 7/9 LS Turbo game - 901 RWHP!!! - Page 2

dl242gt · 11-08-2018, 01:57 PM

Labor isn't free. It was $14.99 shipped.

I have more money into my 123GT and it sits in the barn not even making it's 115hp.

Thanks for sharing such a fun build!

JohnMc · 11-08-2018, 02:09 PM

A great part is that if a fuel pump fails to deliver enough fuel, or an oil filter collapses, or whatever and he vents the block, almost all of that gets reused, it's jsut another barely touched common as dirt (close) junkyard longblock that is needed. Not some long build with shiny $$$$ parts and long careful engine builds. Just fresh from the junkyard - take the heads off, swap the cam and valve springs, slap it back together, back to the races.

Andrewhans · 11-08-2018, 03:11 PM

This is exactly why I built my turbo LS 240. Love the build man and love seeing what can be done on the cheap.

culberro · 11-08-2018, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Rich Halsey

The engine is an unopened 6.0 that I bought with the transmission for $700. Add Cam, valve springs and a chinese 80mm turbo and the power is there. Where, IMO, it gets a little pricey is building the support to hold the power (torque converter/ trans etc). I would guess total for the entire car with the fuel system, wiring, ecu etc. I have somewhere around 8k in it. Now labor is a whole other subject!

A friend of mine started getting into the turbo LS game a few years ago. Making 1070 whp on a very similar setup it seems. He's having a lot of fun dropping turbo ls engines into everything he sees:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nO_sWXPxXqI

mikep · 11-08-2018, 04:33 PM

Both are nice vids of strong pulls.

Pillow · 11-08-2018, 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnMc

A great part is that if a fuel pump fails to deliver enough fuel, or an oil filter collapses, or whatever and he vents the block, almost all of that gets reused, it's jsut another barely touched common as dirt (close) junkyard longblock that is needed. Not some long build with shiny $$$$ parts and long careful engine builds. Just fresh from the junkyard - take the heads off, swap the cam and valve springs, slap it back together, back to the races.

Bingo. The engines are dirt cheap... It is all the stuff hanging off them for conversions purposes that adds up.

FWIW the most recent Engine Masters (aired on MTOD Wednesday) took a 5.3 through the paces NA stock, stock +boost, NA head&cam, and head&cam +boost. Interesting as always. My only beef is that they whore Holley crap all the time when not necessary... I know $ponsor$.

linuxman51 · 11-08-2018, 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stiggy Pop

so does it cost real money to make that much power, or is even 900+ becoming "cheap" (a relative term of course)

it's all relative to what you consider real money, and how resourceful you are really.

sbabbs · 11-08-2018, 08:25 PM

Gone in 420 seconds..

swedish-rocket · 11-10-2018, 11:09 AM

Great power! Really awesome sleeper! Good Job!

cosbySweater · 11-15-2018, 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stiggy Pop

so does it cost real money to make that much power, or is even 900+ becoming "cheap" (a relative term of course)

Depends on your budget and how crafty you are. You can easily build a car for 3-4k and make 500whp if you pick and choose your parts well and are doing all the fabrication yourself. I have right under 4k into my turbo ls Fairmont including the cost of the car and it's a riot to drive

Rich Halsey · 11-16-2018, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Mogly

Oh you have a LS swapped Volvo? That's wack, cheap and lazy. GTFO!!!

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Mogly · 11-16-2018, 09:28 AM

Don't even care to view that ****.

Pillow · 11-16-2018, 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mogly

Oh you have a LS swapped Volvo? That's wack, cheap and lazy. GTFO!!!

Quote:

There should be a place like the Performance & Modifications section for this trash. Where all you LS bois can go and play with real and reliable HP.

FTFY

Mogly, I'm failing to see why so butthurt on this topic. Don't like it... Click on the other redblock threads that are lacking HP.

JohnMc · 11-16-2018, 10:47 AM

Yeah, the thread title clearly says 'LS'. Although with the title saying '901 hp' I guess it probably doesn't need to say that it's not a redblock anymore.

linuxman51 · 11-16-2018, 10:51 AM

Don't worry. when the rest of us die, Mogly might be able to finally catch up to where folks were a decade ago in the redblock game.

JohnMc · 11-16-2018, 11:07 AM

I guess some Swedish guys make 900 HP from a 'redblock' shaped object, and sometimes more. But that's into NHRA-style territory with exotic fuels and $$$$$ engine builds that get rebuilt *frequently* Veeeeery expensive.

Meanwhile, stock block unopened junkyard truck motor can be driven all the time, thrashed on with little care because another one is $$$ and a few days, not $$$$ or $$$$$ and a few months to replace.

Not to mention, the engine still has lots of power off boost, 350 - 400-ish hp off boost is nothing to scoff at.

linuxman51 · 11-16-2018, 12:41 PM

historically it does matter what I think and say, so....

linuxman51 · 11-16-2018, 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mogly

Cheby Cheby Cheby LSswap

much like the cries of other non hackers before you and future underachievers.

JohnMc · 11-16-2018, 12:47 PM

Mine isn't a Chevy motor. It's from a Hummer.

And it's not an LS, it's an LH8. The LH8 engine code translates to 'Let the H8 flow'....

linuxman51 · 11-16-2018, 12:53 PM

the "33" in mine is how many bus lengths I put on ol' moogs in the 1/8th

linuxman51 · 11-16-2018, 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mogly

That depends how many busses fit in a 1/8

at least 33. it's on the internet, must be true.

Pillow · 11-16-2018, 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mogly

Dosnt matter what you think linuxman or say. Fawking the cheby ls engine.

I'm not really sure why the hate on the LS... It is a very well regarded engine in the automotive world.

dl242gt · 11-16-2018, 05:59 PM

He must be a red block hugger. While I myself want to build up a fiarly powerful red block. For lots more power for return on investment some type of powerful V8 swap is a good idea.

dl242gt · 11-16-2018, 09:03 PM

That engine and trans is in some kind of parking lot. Ready to be loaded up in someones vehicle to take it all home. I too spent that much buying all the parts to buildup my powerful redblock.
Might be kind of hot.

Look how many years it took for the engineers in GM to finally get a aluminum small block V8 into mass production. Like 40+ plus years? It's no wonder that it is all the rage to install them in other cooler places like a Volvo. I'm ok with it but it's also not my path. I do like swaps.

The swap that I have is a 67 MGB GT with a period Ford 289 and 4spd in it. I look forward to restoring it. It was built by a racing engineer about 30 years ago and needs to be completely gone over. But it's going to be the little cobra coupe when done.

cosbySweater · 11-17-2018, 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mogly

Fawk I just spent that much on my bottom end!!
https://phoenix.craigslist.org/wvl/p...738994214.html.

God dam that's cheap as hell

11-08-2018, 01:57 PM	#26
dl242gt 300+hp on the shelf club Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: S NJ, a suburb of Phila.	Labor isn't free. It was $14.99 shipped. I have more money into my 123GT and it sits in the barn not even making it's 115hp. Thanks for sharing such a fun build! __________________ Dave, 1982 242 turbo. 340k miles. Good stuff and lots of rust. 1993 245 Classic, 420k miles, enem V15. IPD bars and chassis braces. Simons sport exhaust from Scandix. sbabbs ezk chip. Been a good road warrior. Genuine Volvo rebuilt leaky M47.

11-08-2018, 02:09 PM	#27
JohnMc PV Abuser Join Date: May 2004 Location: St. Louis	A great part is that if a fuel pump fails to deliver enough fuel, or an oil filter collapses, or whatever and he vents the block, almost all of that gets reused, it's jsut another barely touched common as dirt (close) junkyard longblock that is needed. Not some long build with shiny $$$$ parts and long careful engine builds. Just fresh from the junkyard - take the heads off, swap the cam and valve springs, slap it back together, back to the races. __________________ '63 PV Rat Rod '93 245 16VT Classic #1141

11-08-2018, 03:11 PM	#28
Andrewhans Turbo LS ****poster Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Kenly, NC	This is exactly why I built my turbo LS 240. Love the build man and love seeing what can be done on the cheap. __________________ Old - Gen3 4.8/SS1/Cast VSR 7875/Deka 80/single walbro 450 60' 1.66 - 1/8 6.53 @ 113.3mph - 1/4 9.99 @ 140.4mph - 20psi 11.5deg timing E85 ------------------------------------------ New - Gen4 5.3/SS2/Cast VSR 7875/Deka 80/single walbro 450 60' 1.60 - 1/8 6.48 @ 112.4 - 1/4 xxx ------------------------------------------ 3140lb no driver 3320lb with driver

11-08-2018, 08:25 PM	#33
sbabbs Board Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Rushing Lane, Scappoose, OR	Gone in 420 seconds.. __________________ 1988 245 White slicktop M47 Wagon! 2.5L NA 8v going in. 1990 745 B230FT Getrag JohnV flywheel 240mm clutch 13c A-cam 3.54 G80 548K MILES 1991 740SE B230FT NPR Strut braces IPD bar A cam 550cc EV14's. 3.73 G80 M90 to put in.

11-16-2018, 09:28 AM	#37
Mogly 280WHP Regina Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Tucson, AZ	Don't even care to view that ***. __________________ 🦍 403whp, profile picture* Ford Colonge V6 in the works.

11-10-2018, 11:09 AM	#34
swedish-rocket Board Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Cincinnati Ohio	Great power! Really awesome sleeper! Good Job!

11-16-2018, 10:47 AM	#39
JohnMc PV Abuser Join Date: May 2004 Location: St. Louis	Yeah, the thread title clearly says 'LS'. Although with the title saying '901 hp' I guess it probably doesn't need to say that it's not a redblock anymore.

11-16-2018, 10:51 AM	#40
linuxman51 BRANDSCHUTZVORSCHRIFTEN! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: mont, AL	Don't worry. when the rest of us die, Mogly might be able to finally catch up to where folks were a decade ago in the redblock game.

11-16-2018, 11:07 AM	#41
JohnMc PV Abuser Join Date: May 2004 Location: St. Louis	I guess some Swedish guys make 900 HP from a 'redblock' shaped object, and sometimes more. But that's into NHRA-style territory with exotic fuels and $$$$$ engine builds that get rebuilt frequently Veeeeery expensive. Meanwhile, stock block unopened junkyard truck motor can be driven all the time, thrashed on with little care because another one is $$$ and a few days, not $$$$ or $$$$$ and a few months to replace. Not to mention, the engine still has lots of power off boost, 350 - 400-ish hp off boost is nothing to scoff at.

11-16-2018, 12:41 PM	#42
linuxman51 BRANDSCHUTZVORSCHRIFTEN! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: mont, AL	historically it does matter what I think and say, so....

11-16-2018, 12:47 PM	#44
JohnMc PV Abuser Join Date: May 2004 Location: St. Louis	Mine isn't a Chevy motor. It's from a Hummer. And it's not an LS, it's an LH8. The LH8 engine code translates to 'Let the H8 flow'....

11-16-2018, 12:53 PM	#45
linuxman51 BRANDSCHUTZVORSCHRIFTEN! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: mont, AL	the "33" in mine is how many bus lengths I put on ol' moogs in the 1/8th

11-16-2018, 05:59 PM	#48
dl242gt 300+hp on the shelf club Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: S NJ, a suburb of Phila.	He must be a red block hugger. While I myself want to build up a fiarly powerful red block. For lots more power for return on investment some type of powerful V8 swap is a good idea.

11-16-2018, 09:03 PM	#49
dl242gt 300+hp on the shelf club Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: S NJ, a suburb of Phila.	That engine and trans is in some kind of parking lot. Ready to be loaded up in someones vehicle to take it all home. I too spent that much buying all the parts to buildup my powerful redblock. Might be kind of hot. Look how many years it took for the engineers in GM to finally get a aluminum small block V8 into mass production. Like 40+ plus years? It's no wonder that it is all the rage to install them in other cooler places like a Volvo. I'm ok with it but it's also not my path. I do like swaps. The swap that I have is a 67 MGB GT with a period Ford 289 and 4spd in it. I look forward to restoring it. It was built by a racing engineer about 30 years ago and needs to be completely gone over. But it's going to be the little cobra coupe when done. Last edited by dl242gt; 11-16-2018 at 09:06 PM.. Reason: add aluminum and make correction

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