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Old 12-30-2017, 10:43 PM   #1701
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Old 12-30-2017, 11:00 PM   #1702
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I don't have the top stamped piece. Even if I did, I'm wondering if my super-cool '90's pump is different. Looking at a parts fiche. Can't figure it out.
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Old 12-30-2017, 11:03 PM   #1703
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Old 12-30-2017, 11:05 PM   #1704
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I think I'm missing a bracket.

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Old 12-30-2017, 11:50 PM   #1705
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Old 01-02-2018, 04:19 PM   #1706
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Old 01-02-2018, 06:15 PM   #1707
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The bracket above is correct for a B21FT but it won't work with the pump you pulled, you need one of these fellers.



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Old 01-02-2018, 06:27 PM   #1708
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Or was I just supposed to point and laugh?
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Old 01-02-2018, 06:38 PM   #1709
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Or was I just supposed to point and laugh?
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Old 01-02-2018, 07:26 PM   #1710
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I'm pretty sure the late model pumps just bolt onto the non-AC bracket using the late-style steel arm/bracket.
It's been a while since I did the swap.
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Old 01-02-2018, 08:07 PM   #1711
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You guys think I'm a genius with cars, you should seem me BBQ...


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Old 01-02-2018, 08:16 PM   #1712
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Meh. You're learnin'. Eventually you'll be knowledgeable like many TBrickers that haze you in this thread.
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Old 01-02-2018, 08:32 PM   #1713
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Why not run AC like all the cool kids?
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Old 01-02-2018, 08:50 PM   #1714
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Why not run AC like all the cool kids?
He thinks it's a bicycle where weight counts.
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Old 01-02-2018, 10:29 PM   #1715
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Because: Racecar!!
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Old 01-02-2018, 10:51 PM   #1716
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So, anyway. Ran back to the PnP, grabbed the PS mount.





It's actually a nice, lightweight piece.





Everything bolted up as it should. Except that the PS belt hit the timing cover pointer. Why? Because, that's why.





While I was removing the second belt from the alternator so I could install the PS belt, I noticed that the alt bracket bolt had departed. Why? Because...





So, yeah, I'm installing this stuff on a motor I will be removing in two weeks. Because.

I actually am anxious to see how the car handles with power assist. AND, I read that the later pump runs at a lower pressure which has a "better steering feel" than the over-assisted old pump. Because.

But, I figure I did loose 5 RWHP from my dyno numbers...
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Old 01-02-2018, 10:56 PM   #1717
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Think all this junk will fit on the B21?
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Old 01-02-2018, 10:57 PM   #1718
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Awesome. You need to space the pump forward. Unless you already figured it out. I couldn’t tell. Good stuff Carl!
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Old 01-03-2018, 01:46 AM   #1719
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It lines up OK on the middle crank pulley. Be nice to have both belts on the alternator though. How do I space it forward?

So, that alternator mount bolt that's missing? Yeah, it's broken. And now the poorly tensioned, single belt squeals like crazy. Crap.



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Old 01-03-2018, 02:32 AM   #1720
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Yeah, I had that happen as well, it sucks.

Generally, not too difficult to remove however. It looks like you have a stub to work with, you may be able to get a vice grip on it.

Alternatively, grind a slot in it and use a flat head screwdriver to turn it out.

Mine was pretty flush when it broke. I welded a slightly smaller nut onto the face and it turned right out. Just use a nut with a smaller hole than the OD of the M8(?) bolt that is broken off. Use a mig welder. Worked great. I've used this method a half dozen times over the years to remove broken bolts/studs.
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Old 01-03-2018, 09:38 AM   #1721
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Mine did the same but broke off less than flush. I tried welding a nut and it did not work. I ended up using a wagon rear seat catch and slid the alt mount over the stub and bolted the catch to the front housing. Been working great!

You will need some spacers to space the pump forward. Super easy.
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Old 01-03-2018, 11:39 AM   #1722
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Thx guys.
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Old 01-03-2018, 12:00 PM   #1723
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conversely you can run an extra long belt that goes around everything. Discovered that in the beige Crapwagon.
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Old 01-04-2018, 12:20 AM   #1724
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Raised the nose and dropped the pan for easy access. Tried tapping the perimeter with a cold chisel, tried vice-grips, spent some time with a hack-saw blade wrapped in a rag making a slot. She's really stuck in there. Dang.

May as well commence with pulling the motor at this point. B21 is only a few weeks out. I can tell you that the power assist felt great on my 100 yard test drive. We'll have to wait to see how wishful my thinking is on the pump reducing the car's steering wander. Sure hope so. Be kind of scary to actually have a little power, but no control.
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Old 01-04-2018, 12:43 AM   #1725
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