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Old 10-12-2018, 11:31 PM   #1
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the m47 and cd009 pre bellhousing and input shaft cut.


after cut just the cd009


Working on a relocation deal so i can get the shifter to roughly come out here:


Cardboard debauchery, plate on top is 6.5" x 6.5" square, for now, with the bracket on the right side of the CD being spaced out an inch to clear the top of the trans :


Gotta shorten and weld these two pieces together next and figure out how to cut and get this piece of the original shift turret to connect.




Updates will happen at some point along the process

UPDATE! 11/2/18

test fit done sans clutch and pressure plate, Deeworks CD009 to redblock adapter, working on a shifter setup for the stock location. just a little bit of banging on the trans tunnel for clearance otherwise fits like a glove! Will update more tomorrow on the cross-member modification and clearance for the tunnel.


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Old 10-14-2018, 04:25 PM   #2
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Looking good!
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Old 10-14-2018, 08:24 PM   #3
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Looking good!
Thanks! currently working on a way to make the old m47 shift linkage work with the CD, have to wait on my deeworks adapter to see how much clearance I'm gonna have on the rear of the trans.
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Old 10-15-2018, 01:19 AM   #4
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I'll be interested to see how it fits in the tunnel.
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Old 10-15-2018, 08:37 AM   #5
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Looks like it's going behind an LS? I've got the same thing going on with my 240.

What motor mounts/oil pan are you using? The trans position you have there looks pretty close to mine. I'm using those STS mounts, but then I moved things forward about 1 1/4" just to make clearance issues on various things (bellhousing, steering column) go away.
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Old 10-15-2018, 08:52 AM   #6
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Damn that thing is so shiny! Did you buy it brand new?
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Old 10-15-2018, 09:04 AM   #7
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Brand new ones really aren't all that bad: https://www.z1motorsports.com/manual...on-p-3342.html
Less than a worn out T56.
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Old 10-15-2018, 12:33 PM   #8
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Brand new ones really aren't all that bad: https://www.z1motorsports.com/manual...on-p-3342.html
Less than a worn out T56.
That's the price of a new T5-Z! That's a smoking deal for those that want a more "refined" transmission that will handle more torque than a t5.
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Old 10-15-2018, 02:39 PM   #9
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That is the same price as a rebuilt M47 exchange from Volvo last time I checked.
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Old 10-15-2018, 02:51 PM   #10
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That's the price of a new T5-Z! That's a smoking deal for those that want a more "refined" transmission that will handle more torque than a t5.
I just paid 2k for a new T5z a few months ago. This seems like a way better option.

However, I'm really curious about noises from the CD009. At first everyone said they were smooth and quiet and shift well, but I've been looking at other forums and Z people seem to think they're loud.

I know of one person who has a single mass flywheel on a Vr6 with this trans, and says it does the T5 neutral rattle thing really badly.

Curious to actually drive one of these.
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Old 10-15-2018, 04:22 PM   #11
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I just paid 2k for a new T5z a few months ago. This seems like a way better option.

However, I'm really curious about noises from the CD009. At first everyone said they were smooth and quiet and shift well, but I've been looking at other forums and Z people seem to think they're loud.

I know of one person who has a single mass flywheel on a Vr6 with this trans, and says it does the T5 neutral rattle thing really badly.

Curious to actually drive one of these.
They are about as loud as my Getrag 265 was. Usually they get louder with an upgraded clutch and single mass FW. It should be ok if you can adjust your idle a little north of 800 rpm.

I have one in my 370z Nismo but it has a single mass FW and an heavy duty clutch/PP. It's not the quietest tranny I've experienced but the shifting action is very nice.
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CBF performance sells a forward mount shifter that puts it near the stock m46/m47 shifter position, but the damn thing is 500 dollars.

https://cbfperformance.net/#!/Gen-3-...258/category=0
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/\ /\ /\ That's what I'm using. Fair warning - he said he had a thunderstorm at his shop that fried his mill, but when I bought mine it was a solid 3 1/2 months until he shipped it. Then he forgot the offset shifter handle and I still haven't gotten that, but he said Friday it's coming soon.
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Looks like it's going behind an LS? I've got the same thing going on with my 240.

What motor mounts/oil pan are you using? The trans position you have there looks pretty close to mine. I'm using those STS mounts, but then I moved things forward about 1 1/4" just to make clearance issues on various things (bellhousing, steering column) go away.
I'm sticking it behind my b230ft, the reference pic of the trans in the tunnel under the shift hole is from a guy that LS swapped.
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CBF performance sells a forward mount shifter that puts it near the stock m46/m47 shifter position, but the damn thing is 500 dollars.

https://cbfperformance.net/#!/Gen-3-...258/category=0
I'm not getting this unless I absolutely have to, For now I'm working on jerryrigging something to make the m47 shifter work with the stock pull up style reverse lockout.
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Damn that thing is so shiny! Did you buy it brand new?
yepp! from z1 performance i believe, figured id do it right the first time and not have any worries.
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I'll be interested to see how it fits in the tunnel.
so would I, currently waiting on shipment from deeworks, might be a while.
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Old 02-22-2019, 04:23 PM   #18
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UPDATE: Going flat flywheel from STS machining and a clutch kit from yoshifab, CBF shifter and flywheel/clutch components should all be here in the next 2 weeks, then just need a tranny crossmember from yoshifab and a custom driveline made and we should begin final assembly here shortly boys and girls! :D
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UPDATE: Going flat flywheel from STS machining and a clutch kit from yoshifab, CBF shifter and flywheel/clutch components should all be here in the next 2 weeks, then just need a tranny crossmember from yoshifab and a custom driveline made and we should begin final assembly here shortly boys and girls! :D
I wouldn't use the STS flywheel with that clutch kit. Sintered clutches and iron flywheels are bad juju. Time to buck up for a yoshi/ttv/bakaxel billet steel flywheel.
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It looks like the gear ratios aren't very good on that transmission. What differential are you using?
First Gear Ratio (:1):3.79
Second Gear Ratio (:1):2.32
Third Gear Ratio (:1):1.62
Fourth Gear Ratio (:1):1.27
Fifth Gear Ratio (:1):1.00
Sixth Gear Ratio (:1):0.79

vs the t5z:
1st: 2.95
2nd: 1.94
3rd: 1.34
4th: 1.00
5th: 0.63

almost seems like the CD009 has too short of a first and too tall of a 6th, like 2 useless gears?
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It looks like the gear ratios aren't very good on that transmission. What differential are you using?
First Gear Ratio (:1):3.79
Second Gear Ratio (:1):2.32
Third Gear Ratio (:1):1.62
Fourth Gear Ratio (:1):1.27
Fifth Gear Ratio (:1):1.00
Sixth Gear Ratio (:1):0.79

vs the t5z:
1st: 2.95
2nd: 1.94
3rd: 1.34
4th: 1.00
5th: 0.63

almost seems like the CD009 has too short of a first and too tall of a 6th, like 2 useless gears?

I'll use a 3.31 final with my CD009 swap. My 370z has a 3.42 final with about 300 whp so I guess that the 3.31 with 600+ whp should be ok.

And all this always depends on what you'll actually do with the car. Road race, street cruzin or drag racing?
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I'll use a 3.31 final with my CD009 swap. My 370z has a 3.42 final with about 300 whp so I guess that the 3.31 with 600+ whp should be ok.

And all this always depends on what you'll actually do with the car. Road race, street cruzin or drag racing?
I think with 3.31s, a largish turbo, and 600+ hp that you’ll be wanting a numerically lower gear ratio. You’ll just end up shifting a bunch and being in and out of boost. The car might actually end up being slower.
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It's for easy burnouts in every gear at all speeds
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It looks like the gear ratios aren't very good on that transmission. What differential are you using?
First Gear Ratio (:1):3.79
Second Gear Ratio (:1):2.32
Third Gear Ratio (:1):1.62
Fourth Gear Ratio (:1):1.27
Fifth Gear Ratio (:1):1.00
Sixth Gear Ratio (:1):0.79

vs the t5z:
1st: 2.95
2nd: 1.94
3rd: 1.34
4th: 1.00
5th: 0.63

almost seems like the CD009 has too short of a first and too tall of a 6th, like 2 useless gears?
gonna be using a truetrac with my 3.73 in it and we'll see how it goes, gonna be running a 15g or 16t more than likely, or may just go chinese choo choo boy
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It looks like the gear ratios aren't very good on that transmission. What differential are you using?
First Gear Ratio (:1):3.79
Second Gear Ratio (:1):2.32
Third Gear Ratio (:1):1.62
Fourth Gear Ratio (:1):1.27
Fifth Gear Ratio (:1):1.00
Sixth Gear Ratio (:1):0.79

vs the t5z:
1st: 2.95
2nd: 1.94
3rd: 1.34
4th: 1.00
5th: 0.63

almost seems like the CD009 has too short of a first and too tall of a 6th, like 2 useless gears?
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Here are the RPM's after gear change, with theoretical shift point of 7k rpm:

1 3.79
2 2.32 4285
3 1.62 4888
4 1.27 5488
5 1 5512
6 0.79 5530

1 2.95
2 1.94 4603
3 1.34 4835
4 1 5224
5 0.63 4410
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