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Old 08-19-2019, 02:07 PM   #1
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After spending quite a bit of time in the cockpit of my 142, I'd like to upgrade the seats to something with more bolstering and thigh support.

Yes, budget matters, but I am open to all options at this point.
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Old 08-19-2019, 02:28 PM   #2
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New seat foam in your current seat?
Always thought Volvo seats were some of the most comfortable. Never understood changing them to "racing" seats, unless you are racing.
Seriously, how many miles are on your car? Those babies are probably well worn!
I'd bet that you can rebuild your seats for lower cost that replacing them.
But, you'll end up putting something out of a late model BMW in there...…
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Old 08-19-2019, 02:33 PM   #3
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Pull seats and inspect webbing. Those seats were supposedly of the comfiest in their day, according to car review mags from the 60s/70s. 48 years later, they're not gonna feel so nice. There's some NOS pirelli webbing on ebay right now.
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Old 08-19-2019, 03:31 PM   #4
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300k car with the spring supports, I just had a local upholstery shop make me new foam for the bottom (kept the original seat back foam), put on new covers from VP, they feel like brand new seats.

if your seat back foam is solid and you want a little more "bolster, just glue an additional 1/2" thick strip of foam along the sides, the covers have enough room to accomodate a little more foam in this area...
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Old 08-19-2019, 04:16 PM   #5
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In an older car there's something to be said for keeping it period correct, so maybe rebuilding the stock seats is a decent idea.

On the other hand if you're looking at a swap to something more modern, I can suggest 2 different options:

1) Volvo C30 front seats, which you can get in cloth / manual configuration, and still lean forward to allow rear seat access. They will be more supportive than 140 or 240 stock seats. Much firmer seat bottom foam. Small bolsters but enough shape to them.

2) VW MkV / MkVI Golf, GTI, or Jetta - the seats in my old 2010 Jetta wagon were a great compromise between support and comfort. Softer than the C30 seats for sure. Slightly taller bolsters but ingress & egress was still easy. All-day road trips with no discomfort after 8 or 10 hours of driving. Super comfy, mostly manual adjustment but easy to set up. GTI seats will likely have the plaid inserts but I think they're otherwise similar. Mk VII seats might be even better but those are still relatively new and I haven't sat in one to give any input.
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The 2-door (3 door?) VW Golf seats will have the same tilt-forward function as the C30, I just realized. Those came with a cloth upholstery option too. The VW pleather is called V-Tex and is pretty good actually, maybe not as long lasting as MB-Tex but it was hard wearing and felt nice to the touch.
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Here's the logic behind changing the seats:
The foam is good and the upholstery is decent. Both seats need new Pirelli straps.

I'm a big guy (6'0" and 275) and want to drive this car in anger without using the steering wheel as a grab handle.

I have a set of black manual s40/v50 seats and they were super comfortable and more supportive, but are the wrong color.
I may try and locate a pair of tan manual s40/v50 seats, or heed the suggestion of VAG or C30 seats.
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Old 08-21-2019, 04:10 PM   #8
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Here's the logic behind changing the seats:
The foam is good and the upholstery is decent. Both seats need new Pirelli straps.

I'm a big guy (6'0" and 275) and want to drive this car in anger without using the steering wheel as a grab handle.

I have a set of black manual s40/v50 seats and they were super comfortable and more supportive, but are the wrong color.
I may try and locate a pair of tan manual s40/v50 seats, or heed the suggestion of VAG or C30 seats.
I call dibs on your old seat skins for 14.99
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Old 08-26-2019, 02:52 PM   #9
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I find my setup provides all the support I could ask for...

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Old 08-26-2019, 04:00 PM   #10
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I really like the P2R seats I have in my 740, but that option is not friendly for back seat access in a 2 door
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Old 08-26-2019, 09:18 PM   #11
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I really like the P2R seats I have in my 740, but that option is not friendly for back seat access in a 2 door
At the beginning of the build, I had plans of putting a pair of Gobi P2R seats in the car.

For the time being, I am going to re-web the seat bottoms and see how they feel. I ordered new webbing/Pirelli bands as well as the fastening clips and new wire clips to the frame. Both sides, on closer inspection, have no webbing left in the bottoms. That would explain why I hate them so much.
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alfa 156 are an easy swap into my 164. im not sure if you could adapt something out of a 2 door 147 to possibly fit. the 156 seats are great they retain matching pattern with the door trim. basically look like it was made for the 164
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I've thought about that multiple times. I need to try and find a set to sit in. I'm not sure how well I fit.
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did you reweb the stock seats?
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6 inch extendo seatos made the 245 feel like a luxospasceship.
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I did. Not impressed with them.
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6 inch extendo seatos made the 245 feel like a luxospasceship.
What's??
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I did. Not impressed with them.
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Made brackets to move seats 6 inches rearward. Considering selling if there's interest? For off road use only ofc.
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Made brackets to move seats 6 inches rearward. Considering selling if there's interest? For off road use only ofc.
His '71 has a different mounting scheme for the seats.
240 seats are anchored by m8 bolts on a 370 mm wide track, but the 140 seats have some weird eye bolt up front and angle bracket in the back, so it'd be more of a challenge to move them back or adapt.

I think His problem is more related to the aging foam and bolster-less seat style of the 140 seats.
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If you are budget limited. New foam and double up the pirelli straps. Then upgrade the seat belts. That will hold you better and for a lot less effort than completely new seats. Although if I had to get new seats. I like the C30 seat suggestion. I've seen them and sat in them and they are a really nice seat.

Forget about anything E30. The market is hot for their parts now and the used set of Recaro seats will need to be recovered after you spend a bunch of money buying them.
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I think His problem is more related to the aging foam and bolster-less seat style of the 140 seats.
Precisely.

Dave, I did find a set of local E30 sport seats for $150 that I could easily recover with a period tweed. They actually look pretty decent. But you're right, usually, the affordable ones are beaten to piss.
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I'm personally a big fan of old recaros 'if' you can find some for a good deal, that's the tough part. The ones in my 242 are the most comfortable car seats I've ever been in. I put a cobra vintage seat in my 122 and I have mixed feelings on it. Mostly though, that comes from the type of seat that it is. The vintage style seats have zero bolstering on the upper body and it could use more lumbar for my ruined back.
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