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Old 05-26-2014, 10:10 PM   #1
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So i picked up a '73 Nova hatchback, i've wanted a Nova since i was a teen, my dad always thought a hatch would be cool because of the rarity, i found one for a great price with an almost perfect and strait body for 41 years old and now comes the folly. After doing some research the B230FT in my 740 is getting swapped in and will make almost as much power as the inline six that came originally with it. Good news is that at 18psi and a turbo that has too much compressor it made 205 and 235 at the wheels, so that going to power this rig and i'm sure make more than a couple old timers commit suicide. Unlike the S10 i see out there and after doing a V8 swap on mine i'm thinking this engine bay should be way more suitable for the rear mount distributor and acompanying electronics and plumbing. Hoping to start work in two weeks, need to get the S10 strait first then the engine swap beings.

Question, which transmission to use? AW70 with the accumulator mod or 700R4? I have the adaptor kit sitting on the shelf.





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Old 05-26-2014, 10:19 PM   #2
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Well at least for the ill handling, it will be light weight.

I'd go with the 700R, bolt it to the TH350 mounts, and your redblock will be ~2" forward for distributor clearance, the shifter will work with a little filing, and your driveshaft might even work.

Also the 700 is the only auto i've ever had that inspired trust, but it was a police model.
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Old 05-27-2014, 01:30 AM   #3
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I love this for a multitude of reasons.

Course I want to build a chevette with a t5 motor and a 62 c10 with a single turbo t6. I'm weird that way
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Old 05-27-2014, 08:36 AM   #4
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how difficult is it to remove the wiring harnesses for the ignition and fuel computers?
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Old 05-27-2014, 04:51 PM   #5
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on a 240 it's dead simple.
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Old 05-27-2014, 05:41 PM   #6
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how difficult is it to remove the wiring harnesses for the ignition and fuel computers?
A couple of hours max....20 minutes if you don't mind cutting and splicing or rebuilding the harness.

Oh yea, cool project...when I was 16 I had a '73 Nova...huge pile of junk that I ended up selling back to my next door neighbor that sold it to me....307 with a 3-on-the-tree manual transmission.
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Old 05-27-2014, 10:24 PM   #7
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Whatever you do don't paint it. It's beautiful! From the photos is looks like perfect patina.
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Old 05-27-2014, 10:33 PM   #8
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Parts of all kinds are out there for those things...

I"d bet he can find some "inexpensive" rear suspension, to get off those leafs, and cut some weight back there, and even a modern front subframe....

Sounds like a pretty kick ass project...I can't wait to see this.
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Old 05-28-2014, 01:25 AM   #9
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I'm liking the looks on peoples faces when i tell them i'm putting a B230Ft in it, they just look at me like i'm special and then i tell them that it makes more hp than the stock 350 that came in the car, torque is different seeing that i'm shy 4 pistons but still i figure that the Nova will weigh roughly 300+ lbs less than the Nova with a V8 and should be right around 3000lbs total weight, should be a fun stop light car, i'm thinking of getting a photo of my S10 engine bay to sit on top of the engine just to mess with people.
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Old 05-28-2014, 02:33 AM   #10
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300+ lbs less than the Nova with a V8 and should be right around 3000lbs total weight,
I doubt it will be that different, my Fbird is pretty close to 3K with the V8 and a full interior.
I wold not compare the original motor, but a TBI /TPI, htey are cheap and very simple swap. Not to in any way detract from me wanting to see how your project turns out.

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I"d bet he can find some "inexpensive" rear suspension, to get off those leafs, and cut some weight back there, and even a modern front subframe....
Imo the leafs are not that bad a deal, it's the front geometry and subframe bushings.
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Old 05-28-2014, 10:37 AM   #11
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http://nh.craigslist.org/bod/4490688332.html

Not spending 3500 but this would be kinda funny, better suited to go in a wagon
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Old 06-04-2014, 12:54 AM   #12
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Been doing some serious thinking, I'm going to take one of my SSAC manifolds and wack it, use some tubing i have laying around and build it for a twin turbo setup, 2 13c's. Seems like it should work in my head, rediculously small by itself but in twin format might not be too big. This whole project seeks to deviate from the norm so that's the route i'm going to take. I had thought about running a compound setup but that's a bit too much extra work for the time being. The amm is already cut and spliced for the cold side so the twin setup is not an issue.

Only other question i have is the crank position sensor, can this be mounted anywhere or does it need to be mounted vertically the way it sits on the production car? Not quite sure how the setup works.

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Old 06-05-2014, 10:03 PM   #13
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Can the crank sensor be mounted in any position?
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Old 06-07-2014, 07:10 PM   #14
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Dry fit with 700r4 tomorrow, looking into a 4L60E though
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Old 06-07-2014, 10:18 PM   #15
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Just the engine, too anxious to not do it. Plenty of room everywhere. I rested the engine in so its full weight was in the chassis, the front dropped less than an eighth of inch







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bitchin.

I love this.
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Old 06-08-2014, 08:04 PM   #17
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Took a couple hours of finess but I was able to get the entire harness out of the car, only had to cut one string of wires, going to study up on the green book wiring diagrams and then go through and eliminate wires, this harness controls everything but the abs and ac. There are many wires not needed, a couple positives and grounds and splicing for the fuel pump and it should run. Well worth time to pull it all out without cutting.




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Old 06-15-2014, 12:58 AM   #18
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And then this happened, boy some people are pissed! The lh2.4 seems pretty strait forward to wire up, eliminated some wires, I can't believe how well this fits in, the trans was a bit tight but its looking good. So long as the power steering pump fits its full steam ahead! Unorthodox ftmfw!!!!

I can't help but chuckle when I see the valve cover, it makes every bit of this project worth it just because I'm probably the only one in the world doing it.







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Old 06-17-2014, 09:09 AM   #19
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Old 06-17-2014, 01:39 PM   #20
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How cool! Reminds me of my old Omega.
You probably already know this but these work great. http://www.calvertracing.com/caltracs.html

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Old 06-20-2014, 09:18 AM   #21
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I do, I have a set on my s10
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Old 06-29-2014, 01:04 AM   #22
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Spent some time mounting the intercooler, plenty of room for everything up front. Need to lengthen all the plumbing












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Old 06-29-2014, 01:46 AM   #23
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Holy **** this is awesome haha. Completely going the opposite way of most musclecar builds. Keep it up. You should get custom badges made that say 140 ci
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Old 06-29-2014, 04:19 PM   #25
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Love love love love this.

Keep it up!

The grill cracks me up!
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