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Old 08-16-2011, 03:29 PM   #26
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Old 08-16-2011, 04:19 PM   #27
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i think this is very cool, but would someone enlighten me on why it is better to have one belt drive everything (note that this does not replace the timing belt) vs. multi-belt? seems to me on first thought that I can limp home without power-steering, AC, or even for a short way w/o alt... but without any of them, losing them all at once...?

I do love the look, and I think it is much cleaner for sure, I am just not sure about the practicality?
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Old 08-16-2011, 04:24 PM   #28
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Serp belts are quieter and last a lot longer. Not sure what other benefits besides the fact that it looks awesome.
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Old 08-16-2011, 04:28 PM   #29
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i think this is very cool, but would someone enlighten me on why it is better to have one belt drive everything (note that this does not replace the timing belt) vs. multi-belt? seems to me on first thought that I can limp home without power-steering, AC, or even for a short way w/o alt... but without any of them, losing them all at once...?

I do love the look, and I think it is much cleaner for sure, I am just not sure about the practicality?
Serpentine belt advantages:
-Ease of maintenance
-Beefier belts have more traction and are less prone to breakage
-Cleaner engine bay
-Takes up less space

If a kit were made and reasonably priced, I would buy it.
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Old 08-16-2011, 07:17 PM   #30
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Serpentine belt advantages:
-Ease of maintenance
-Beefier belts have more traction and are less prone to breakage
-Cleaner engine bay
-Takes up less space

If a kit were made and reasonably priced, I would buy it.

-Ease of maintenance


I hate having to remove all my other belts when the power-steering belt goes. Serp soooo much quicker to change.
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Old 08-16-2011, 07:21 PM   #31
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Great idea on the change in belt direction. i haven't had any problems so far but the ac isn't working yet. it took three belts to get this one to fit so it will be a bit before i can re-rought.
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Old 08-16-2011, 07:58 PM   #32
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KL Racing makes a basic serp belt kit for B230. Includes new crank pulley, water pump pulley and alternator pulley. So no AC with that kit and can only work with alternator on the exhaust side, but still kinda neat since it's all bolt on and tensions via the alternator adjustment with no separate tensioner unit needed. KL kit is more geared towards light weight/racing applications, but seems worth mentioning in this thread

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Old 08-16-2011, 09:23 PM   #33
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i think this is very cool, but would someone enlighten me on why it is better to have one belt drive everything (note that this does not replace the timing belt) vs. multi-belt? seems to me on first thought that I can limp home without power-steering, AC, or even for a short way w/o alt... but without any of them, losing them all at once...?

I do love the look, and I think it is much cleaner for sure, I am just not sure about the practicality?
I like this set up. With a serpentine you still need to carry a spare just as with regular belts, and it's a lot easier to change a serpentine belt.
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Old 08-16-2011, 09:30 PM   #34
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This is a neat option. Just got my cnc cutter.....maybe after a few projects get done I can work work with the origanl poster on brackets and what not.
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Old 08-16-2011, 09:44 PM   #35
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Old 08-16-2011, 10:46 PM   #36
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Ok just got done with a little project ive been working on for the past couple of weeks. i wanted to run a newer style AC pump and alternator and i had all the accessories from a 95 850 so after a few trial and error came up with this set up.


first i had to machine the front pulley from the 850









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With a sketch of the crank pulley new holes, and a dimensioned sketch of the bracket, I could bust a run of these parts out for interested parties.

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Old 08-16-2011, 11:03 PM   #37
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How much hp gain by using this set up?
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Old 08-16-2011, 11:22 PM   #38
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This is a neat option. Just got my cnc cutter.....maybe after a few projects get done I can work work with the origanl poster on brackets and what not.
Come on Nathan, at the rate you get ish done by the time you were done typing that you already had a working prototype with several hundred miles on it and no issues. Oh and I will take one. Thanks.
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Old 08-17-2011, 03:12 PM   #39
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love it! i've been planning on doing this in my free time... oh wait i don't have any!
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Old 08-17-2011, 03:34 PM   #40
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If a kit were made and reasonably priced, I would buy it.

Same here. If you did one for the 7xx B230F/FT, I'd gladly buy one. Cash money.

Get on that.
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Old 08-19-2011, 06:30 PM   #41
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For me to buy it there would need to be an AC solution, though.
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Old 08-19-2011, 08:37 PM   #42
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Is it possible to use the timing belt cover with this type of conversion?
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Old 08-19-2011, 09:38 PM   #43
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Serp belts are quieter and last a lot longer. Not sure what other benefits besides the fact that it looks awesome.
It's worth it just for the noise factor imo. I hate engine noises like that.
If I were to build a redblock for my self, it'd get a serp setup for sure.
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Old 08-19-2011, 10:02 PM   #44
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Ill look into this once I get this next set of intakes out. Ill need a break from them forsure!
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Old 08-19-2011, 10:16 PM   #45
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I'm sold...

Good question, Alden...

I wonder if one couldn't use a B234 bracket, which'll already bolt to the redblock, and just swap pulleys on the accessories and alternator.

I'm subscribing to this, as I'd like this setup, please! In the hopes that'll clear a Nathaninwa 16v intake manifold.
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Old 08-19-2011, 10:46 PM   #46
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I wonder if one couldn't use a B234 bracket, which'll already bolt to the redblock, and just swap pulleys on the accessories and alternator.
What would be the advantage of the B234 bracket?
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Old 08-20-2011, 01:19 AM   #47
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What would be the advantage of the B234 bracket?
It's a single, intake side, redblock specific accessory bracket...

Setup for air conditioning, power steering and alternator.

I don't know what OP did to make a 850, whiteblock accessory bracket bolt to his redblock...or was it mean't to be?

Just saying...for ease of installation, one could maybe start with the B234 accessory bracket, and sandwich his plate for the tensioner there. I dunno if you can just swap a pulley, but if so, swap your existing accessory pulleys with the serpzzz...


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Old 08-20-2011, 01:58 AM   #48
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OK Gotcha. I'm not very familiar with the B234's.
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Old 08-20-2011, 11:23 AM   #49
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I think adapting the 850 bracket (which is much more common and readily available) would be easier than adapting pulleys and a tensioner to the B234F bracket.
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Old 08-20-2011, 12:58 PM   #50
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Nathan.... If your making them, put my down for one!!
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