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Old 09-08-2011, 03:44 AM   #76
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Yay moar movin partzzzz...



This is the orientation I had in mind...but yes, that'd require a twin sided ribbed belt and the alternator DOES run backwards, or am I missing something.


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only for hers i need to stop drinking so much.
Drink too much and you'll really need those ribs to give her any sense of pleasure.
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Old 09-08-2011, 03:44 AM   #77
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Yay moar movin partzzzz...



This is the orientation I had in mind...but yes, that'd require a twin sided ribbed belt and the alternator DOES run backwards, or am I missing something.


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only for hers i need to stop drinking so much.
Drink too much and you'll really need those ribs to give her any sense of pleasure.
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Old 09-08-2011, 07:52 AM   #78
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Drink too much and you'll really need those ribs to give her any sense of pleasure.
Trust me, I still get **** from the ONE time i fell asleep
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Old 09-08-2011, 10:11 AM   #79
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Old 09-08-2011, 08:43 PM   #80
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Yay moar movin partzzzz...
This is the orientation I had in mind...but yes, that'd require a twin sided ribbed belt and the alternator DOES run backwards, or am I missing something.
This (my) alternator is running backwards, based on the arrows indicating normal rotation. 00'- alternators are designed for this specific belt routing, so those are not running backwards as they are designed to run CCW.
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Old 09-08-2011, 08:52 PM   #81
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This (my) alternator is running backwards, based on the arrows indicating normal rotation. 00'- alternators are designed for this specific belt routing, so those are not running backwards as they are designed to run CCW.



Cuzz, the 00- can do the moonwalk? go forwards'n'backwards?

The 01+ have a fixed rotation?

Just want to be clear.
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Old 09-08-2011, 09:05 PM   #82
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Does this 850 setup get rid of those blasted rubber bushings on all of the accessories? This alone would make it worth the swap.
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Old 09-08-2011, 10:32 PM   #83
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YES All the rubber bushing are gone it's all mounted rigid.
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Old 09-08-2011, 11:02 PM   #84
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Cuzz, the 00- can do the moonwalk? go forwards'n'backwards?

The 01+ have a fixed rotation?

Just want to be clear.
As far as I know, 99- use the CCW rotation, clutch style alternator.
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Old 09-08-2011, 11:02 PM   #85
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YES All the rubber bushing are gone it's all mounted rigid.
That is good news indeed. I need a new AC compressor so now is the time to swap to a modern drive. Is it a Ford water pump (hard to imagine) or just the pulley?
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Old 09-08-2011, 11:21 PM   #86
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Which is NOT what we want, right???

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As far as I know, 99- use the CCW rotation, clutch style alternator.

Dayummmmm, that's cool about the bushinzzzzz
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Old 09-09-2011, 06:25 AM   #87
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Which is NOT what we want, right???




Dayummmmm, that's cool about the bushinzzzzz
But, the clutch can be replaced with a regular pulley, and then the alt. can turn the other way.
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Old 09-09-2011, 12:56 PM   #88
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It's just the pulley from a ford rear wheel drive 4 cal. I little bit of machining but not much. I also think a pulley from a long chevy water pump 350 style will work also but some spacing would have to be changed. Hopefully this weekend I will get some more photos posted
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Old 09-10-2011, 12:25 AM   #89
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Which is NOT what we want, right???
If you route the belt such that a dual rib belt is required (as with mine), of course allowing for the addition of the WP on the right/center, then you DO want the CCW alternator (whether it's clutch pulley or not), since air flow through the alt is likely more of an issue with RWD setups.
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Old 09-10-2011, 12:53 AM   #90
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It seems Bosch only worries about rotation if the alt comes with a fan...

http://www.bosch.com.au/content/lang...Starters_A.pdf
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It seems Bosch only worries about rotation if the alt comes with a fan...

http://www.bosch.com.au/content/lang...Starters_A.pdf
All these alternators have fans - they are just internal F&R of the casings, instead of old style external
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Old 09-12-2011, 11:12 PM   #92
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Here is a photo of the belt with the roation suggested. Works out great belt can be the same length or a little shorter. Only problem is the single sided belt is $25.00 and double sided is like $75..

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Old 09-12-2011, 11:16 PM   #93
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Here are a couple of photos of the brackets.

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Old 09-12-2011, 11:27 PM   #94
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Old 09-12-2011, 11:55 PM   #95
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I'd still like one of these please.



Got all my 850 stuff waiting to go...got my PS pump, Alternator and A/C compressor, along with some, well, now useless single-sided belts, a tensioner and the bracket.

Did you say something about modifying the 850 bracket? If so, do you have a detailed picture?
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Old 09-17-2011, 06:20 PM   #96
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Ok so double sided belts are hard to come by. The single sided belt I was using was 83 1/4 inch which worked on the alternate routing. Could be an inch shorter or so. The only double sided belt I could find was a dodge caravan 2000 which is like 79". I think this will work if I raise the tensenor arm a little. Have to wait till next week to try it out.
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Old 10-09-2011, 10:48 PM   #97
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Finally got it done. Found a double sided belt. They don't make as many sized in the double sided as the single side. Had to move the tensioner and modify it a bit. Here is a couple photos of the new routing and belt.

If anyone is interested in the parts I'm going to make a post in the for sale forum.
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Old 10-10-2011, 12:33 AM   #98
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this is fantastic except for 16v guys like myself. The 16v gear is wider so everything else wont align up exactly unless you can find a way to space the tensioner/bracket for the power steering/ Alt/ and AC Compressor out a little farther front engine wise
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Old 10-10-2011, 02:40 AM   #99
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Some late model VW's and Peugeot's use double sided belts, that may be a source of suitable belts for this project.
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Old 10-10-2011, 03:56 AM   #100
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now you need only a chainbeltdrive for the cams and your engine will be maintainencefree ;)
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