My 940 workhorse

[Fivehundred]

As I've started lurking

[Fivehundred]

How many miles are people doing in their redblock cars?

I just submitted my mileage claim today. The 940 has done 10,099 business miles between the 6th of May 07 and the 6th of July 07. With an additional 1045 private ones. In the next couple of months I plan on taking it to Spain and Portugal as well as to Sweden and Denmark with the normal French, German and Dutch stuff too.

[DaytonAE86]

Awesome, what the total mileage on that thing?

Also, 940se's wagons are solid rear axle and sedans are IRS, right? Or is your car IRS?

[norcal505]

nice bro
like the colormatched bumpers

[240Psycho]

I cant get over the headlights. im sure you think there the norm, but to me there so clean and belong on every 940 especially US cars

~Kyle

[b4_ford]

The next time one of you Euro guys come over here for vacation I insist that you bring a low mileage 940/960 wagon with an M90 along for your driving tour of N. America. When you are ready to go home I will be more than happy to buy it from you for more than enough to cover the cost of shipping and airfare back home!

[Fivehundred]

Originally Posted by DaytonAE86

Awesome, what the total mileage on that thing?

Also, 940se's wagons are solid rear axle and sedans are IRS, right? Or is your car IRS?

It's not that high. I went out and bought a very low mileage car just under 2 years ago, it had only done 55,000 miles. I then fitted an Alpine motorised touch screen satnav, sequential LPG injection, painted the bumpers and generally went over it sorting out any little niggles.

It rewarded me by destroying its M90 gearbox spontaneously a week after I bought it, not the greatest start. Its unheard of the destroy an M90 on a car at such low mileage, especially since it was running standard boost! I was more than a little pissed off.

Its now on just under 139,000 miles so I've done 84,000 miles in it in just under 2 years.

The 940 SE like this one has a live axle, 960's have the IRS. I've just bought a 1997/8 V90 wagon and I'm intending to convert that to solid axle as lowering the IRS looks to be outside the budget.

Peter

[foggyjames]

That's one tidy car! Great to see another UK TBricker on the loose. Whereabouts in the UK are you based? We have meets every once in a while.

I've heard of a few low mileage M90s going. I guess if they make it to 100k, they'll keep going more or less forever. Ryan's has done ~300k, I believe, the last 10+k of which has been with quite a lot of power running through it.

I can see us getting confused over what an "SE" is. They were two very different cars on the different sides of the pond. The US-spec 940 SE was basically what we know as a 960 Turbo, but with a 940 front end. In other words, it's a B230FT powered 940, but with IRS like a 960...I think! Here, a 940 SE was just a trim level - one down from CD, I think.

Just to REALLY confuse matters, a 740 SE is two *different* things again on the two sides of the pond. Here, it was a 2.0 NA tax-break mobile aimed at fleet buyers. In the US it was a limited edition turbo with a cool bodykit.

cheers

James

[sparks]

Just to confuse matters on SE / CD etc a lot of the last 940's were badged classic(in the UK at least) whatever the spec. Mine is badged classicbut is a CD (the only option it has missing, I think are, the roofrails)

[1stRaven]

Originally Posted by b4_ford

The next time one of you Euro guys come over here for vacation I insist that you bring a low mileage 940/960 wagon with an M90 along for your driving tour of N. America. When you are ready to go home I will be more than happy to buy it from you for more than enough to cover the cost of shipping and airfare back home!

That actually might be an idea for next year. You'll have to cover the cost of the car as well though. ;)

I love that last picture mate. Looks like you are getting your monies worth from the car.

[Fivehundred]

Originally Posted by foggyjames

That's one tidy car! Great to see another UK TBricker on the loose. Whereabouts in the UK are you based? We have meets every once in a while.

I've heard of a few low mileage M90s going. I guess if they make it to 100k, they'll keep going more or less forever. Ryan's has done ~300k, I believe, the last 10+k of which has been with quite a lot of power running through it.

I'm in Milton Keynes.

The M90 now in the car had done 275000 when I pulled it out of the scrappy, and I've put another 80K on it. I'm going to pull its original box apart and see if it can be revived to go in the V90 project.

[silverwagon]

Nice 945! Geez, it's got to be fun to travel around Europe like that. I did so for a few days with my dad and a good friend back in 2000. Great trip! So, ya got any pics of the V90?!

[b4_ford]

Originally Posted by 1straven

That actually might be an idea for next year. You'll have to cover the cost of the car as well though. ;)

I love that last picture mate. Looks like you are getting your monies worth from the car.

Considering how little those cost I would cover that. I'd have to look into the local laws though.

[1stRaven]

Originally Posted by Fivehundred

I'm in Milton Keynes.

The M90 now in the car had done 275000 when I pulled it out of the scrappy, and I've put another 80K on it. I'm going to pull its original box apart and see if it can be revived to go in the V90 project.

Not far of when we normally go for meets. Next time we hit the pod, you'll have to pop along if you can.

[VolvoPunch]

Originally Posted by Fivehundred

It's not that high. I went out and bought a very low mileage car just under 2 years ago, it had only done 55,000 miles. I then fitted an Alpine motorised touch screen satnav, sequential LPG injection, painted the bumpers and generally went over it sorting out any little niggles.

Now thats just pimping. Although it does suck that you blow your transmission away so fast.

[BB-Q]

This man should be hailed as a hero, as he will be supplying me with doors and front panel for my car.

Hail Peter!

[VolvoPunch]

Originally Posted by BB-Q

This man should be hailed as a hero, as he will be supplying me with doors and front panel for my car.

Hail Peter!

Sure i will join in All hail the mighty Peter!

[Fivehundred]

Originally Posted by silverwagon

Nice 945! Geez, it's got to be fun to travel around Europe like that. I did so for a few days with my dad and a good friend back in 2000. Great trip! So, ya got any pics of the V90?!

I should be getting the V90 Sunday morning. I've taken Monday off work so I can play!

This car is pretty standard, the V90 will be more radical! I've already got a load of bits for it. Basically it'll lose the 6 pot and be converted to 940 Turbo spec. Its a 1 owner from new, full main dealer history car with engine problems. I'll post once I've gone fetched it.

[foggyjames]

Why not pop an S80 T6 engine in? Making a B230 make 280 bhp isn't trivial...although I guess neither is plumbing in a T6 motor

Most late 940s were just badged as "Volvo 940 2.3". I had thought (without ever having looked into it!) that the 'Classic' models were a kinda of base-model with wood trim, but it seems Sparks' car begs to differ. My dad has a '98 940 LPT CD (saloon), badged "Volvo 940 2.3", and it has the correct CD goodies above SE spec - cruise control, factory CD changer, climate control (the exact same panel found in later 760s), and power drivers seat. Almost all CD spec 940s seem to have Auriga rims, too.

I think I might be slowly turning into a beardy...

cheers

James

[Fivehundred]

I'm not shooting for anywhere near 280 bhp. I'm going to limit the engine in the V90 project to 12psi or so, a bit over 200bhp will do. This car will get serious use, like the red car, and I simply can't afford to start popping gearboxes and axles somewhere in the Alps....It will be an Autobahn muncher rather than a dragstrip car.

I've come across 2 SE high boost cars recently wearing Galaxy 16" alloys and Turbo plus kits. Both have leather, but not electric seats. Neither has cruise , outside temperature gauge or climate control. They also both have the tailgate spoiler and roof bars.

Originally Posted by foggyjames

Why not pop an S80 T6 engine in? Making a B230 make 280 bhp isn't trivial...although I guess neither is plumbing in a T6 motor

Most late 940s were just badged as "Volvo 940 2.3". I had thought (without ever having looked into it!) that the 'Classic' models were a kinda of base-model with wood trim, but it seems Sparks' car begs to differ. My dad has a '98 940 LPT CD (saloon), badged "Volvo 940 2.3", and it has the correct CD goodies above SE spec - cruise control, factory CD changer, climate control (the exact same panel found in later 760s), and power drivers seat. Almost all CD spec 940s seem to have Auriga rims, too.

I think I might be slowly turning into a beardy...

cheers

James

[foggyjames]

HPTs with Turbo+, Galaxys, & roof spoilers will be a "940 Sport" (generally referred to on the VOC forum as a "Sports Edition", for a reason I can't fathom). They're almost all maroon, but Chesh has a black one. They have slightly lowered suspension, too. They're pretty much all 1996 cars. They tend to command a price premium, and although nice, I'm not at all sure they're worth it.

I might be away with the fairies here, but why would you want to swap out the lovely I-6 (which in the right guise makes 204 bhp anyway) for a 4-pot boat engine?! I mean I love the heritage of the redblock engine as much as the next man, but the whiteblock units seem to be almost as rugged, and a lot smoother, more efficient, etc. My only criticism would be that next to a B230 turbo they can feel pretty gutless, especially if you get the 'hot cam' version (204bhp instead of 180bhp, for the 6-pot). My S70 (hot cam 2.5 20v with 170bhp) is incredibly sluggish when it comes to pulling out of a rolling junction approach in 2nd, for example, but get it above 3500rpm and it's a pretty wild ride for what it is.

Incidentally, I don't think you need to worry about popping drivetrain parts with that sort of power unless you drive like a hooligan. M90s are rated to around 400 lbft in a 940 on road tyres, and the axles hold up ok. It's when you go up the next stage (5-600lbft) that you'll be in trouble. Ryan's feels solid as a rock, touch wood, and it's making a fair bit of torque. At the risk of benchracing, I'd estimate closer to 300lbft than 200.

cheers

James

[Fivehundred]

Well, the I6 in this particular car isn't lovely, as its broken. It seemed boring repairing the whiteblock, much more obvious to rip out the dash, change the whole loom, stick in a pedal box, an M90 and a redblock

To be honest part of it is that I don't much like them. If I wanted a straight 6 in a wagon I'd go out and buy an E320CDI, in fact I did, but I kept breaking the bloody thing, and I have the letter from Mercedes telling me it's my fault because "You use it too much".

And I thought it'd be amusing to build a 940 that could theoretically have been built in Gothenburg by using factory parts, but never actually was! I'd only be bored in front of the telly in the evenings without something to play with.

Originally Posted by foggyjames

I might be away with the fairies here, but why would you want to swap out the lovely I-6 (which in the right guise makes 204 bhp anyway) for a 4-pot boat engine?! I mean I love the heritage of the redblock engine as much as the next man, but the whiteblock units seem to be almost as rugged, and a lot smoother, more efficient, etc. My only criticism would be that next to a B230 turbo they can feel pretty gutless, especially if you get the 'hot cam' version (204bhp instead of 180bhp, for the 6-pot).

cheers

James

[volvorsport]

crikey , welcome fellow uker .

I6 pistons are £46 from germany , do pick me some up when your next in germany ole chap !!!!

i cant fathom your logic , id have started with a redblock , the wiring is pretty intense .

id have to say a low pressure 6 , would make a much better autobahn stumper than the 4with an autobox .

Anyway , lets see how it goes .

[Fivehundred]

Originally Posted by volvorsport

crikey , welcome fellow uker .

I6 pistons are £46 from germany , do pick me some up when your next in germany ole chap !!!!

i cant fathom your logic , id have started with a redblock , the wiring is pretty intense .

id have to say a low pressure 6 , would make a much better autobahn stumper than the 4with an autobox .

Anyway , lets see how it goes .

Regularly in Germany, so I can pick stuff up no bother. Alternatively a lot of things are significantly cheaper in Sweden, I'll be going later this year.

[DaytonAE86]

Why not build a T5 powered 960, you've already got the 960 oilpan, etc...... and the turbo 5 cyls are known to be just as reliable as redblocks (its the 6 cyl that seem to have problems).

You could make a reliable 300hp, and easily make 250 (the T5 cars came with that much) and you wouldn't be taking 2 steps back by going to a redblock (not that they aren't reliable... but hey, so is a carbed small black chevy... why don't you put one of those in?).

Good luck on the project. What line of work do you do?