Here are the EXACT K cam specs

fryea · 10-08-2008, 01:25 AM

Here are the exact specs of the K Cam. The cam was stuck into a cam reader at a cam grinding shop and digitally fed into a machine. Hope this clears up any muddy areas as to what people specify for lift/duration/etc when designing their engines

shellshock · 10-08-2008, 01:48 AM

Interesting! How many miles on the cam?

badvlvo · 10-08-2008, 01:54 AM

I'd love to see the full specs on others like the D and H cams. But either way this is great information, nothing like what we have been going off before.

Poik · 10-08-2008, 02:09 AM

Cool. 237 @ 50, that's a pretty beefy cam.. How much does it cost to get this done?

aplitz · 10-08-2008, 03:31 AM

That is an awesome machine! I always wondered how they figured out cam specs, I assumed it invloved black magic and goat sacrifice. Glad to hear its not pagan at all.

dl242gt · 10-08-2008, 08:35 AM

That's some pretty cool information. It also proves that to rate a Volvo cam you should reference the lift and duration at .020" lift not the standard .050" that most US cam companies use. Credit for that knowledge is from Thomas Fritz. If you want to learn a lot about how the Volvo cams work. Read the Mushroom Lifter Effect on Thomas's Pbase page.

stylngle2003 · 10-08-2008, 12:38 PM

i can send an M and a T and A to be analyzed if you can get them back to me in relatively short order. IPD turbo too. i might also be able to get an Enem V15NA and a custom "GT6" cam as well.

badvlvo · 10-08-2008, 12:46 PM

I have a D that could get done too if someone has the time. It's in the back seat of my car at Aplitz house.

fryea · 10-08-2008, 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stylngle2003

i can send an M and a T and A to be analyzed if you can get them back to me in relatively short order. IPD turbo too. i might also be able to get an Enem V15NA and a custom "GT6" cam as well.

Get them to me before next week and I can get them all analyzed. Im getting a cam ground right now at the cam shop that did this analysis. Although I can't gauruntee the GT6 will come back

Wagner · 10-08-2008, 01:58 PM

Wow, tangible (kind of) data, and usefull too. Thanks for sharing this with all of us, and it would be very intresting to see the results of the other OEM cams as well.

So yeah, thanks.

TerribleOne · 10-08-2008, 02:13 PM

Ooooooh! Piece -a- candy!

/James Woods

neptune · 10-08-2008, 02:14 PM

Sweet. Thanks for posting that.

I have a T cam that just came off my 242 if you want to borrow it. Shoot me a PM. I can bring it Sunday if you're going to the meet.

stylngle2003 · 10-08-2008, 03:54 PM

when next week do you need them? i need to scoop up the A cam from Vince and get the GT6 from Andy's house.

fidel · 10-08-2008, 04:41 PM

i'll send my v15na and kg8 along with the ones from billy. i also have some custom b30 race boat cams.

Stereophile33 · 10-08-2008, 04:44 PM

I have plots for A, K, D, and a few others if they are helpful

stylngle2003 · 10-08-2008, 04:52 PM

is this machine able to do other configurations for cams (IE inline 5?). I don't mind paying shipping both ways if so.

also, the GT6 isn't a true GT6, but a custom grind by Crower to mimic the GT6 more or less. just would be nice for comparisons

fryea · 10-08-2008, 06:58 PM

this machine reads the first lobes (or whatever you set it to). On the bottom of the chart it will say "for cylinder" and that is what it is reading off of.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wagner

Wow, tangible (kind of) data

VERY tangible data. This is extremely useful for determining if the cam you are using will match up to your goals. People tend to focus on the static compression ratio when looking at modifying engines, but the real thing one should focus on is the DYNAMIC compression ratio. With the right cam, you can make a 13:1 SCR engine behave more like a 10:1.

Send me a pm if you want some other cams checked. Sooner is better than later, as I hate... HATE going to tacoma (king county snob), and would rather do a whole ****load in one batch.

Poik · 10-08-2008, 07:45 PM

Where are you located? I have a Penta PZ cam I'd like to know the specs on, but I will warn you that if I do not get it back I will hunt you down.

towerymt · 10-08-2008, 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stylngle2003

i can send an M and a T...to be analyzed if you can get them back to me in relatively short order.

I suggest one way shipping those two.

fryea · 10-08-2008, 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Poik

Where are you located? I have a Penta PZ cam I'd like to know the specs on, but I will warn you that if I do not get it back I will hunt you down.

Seattle > U-District

fryea · 10-08-2008, 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by towerymt

I suggest one way shipping those two.

More cores for the cam grinders!

stylngle2003 · 10-08-2008, 09:10 PM

so if I send you ~8 cams and a coupla bucks for your time (and the cam guy's time), plus pay shipping both ways, we could do this thing like in a week and a half-two week timeframe? some of these cams will be destined for cars that are scheduled to run shortly (no, not mine

) and we'd need them back sooner than later

fryea · 10-08-2008, 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stylngle2003

so if I send you ~8 cams and a coupla bucks for your time (and the cam guy's time), plus pay shipping both ways, we could do this thing like in a week and a half-two week timeframe? some of these cams will be destined for cars that are scheduled to run shortly (no, not mine

) and we'd need them back sooner than later

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Poik · 10-08-2008, 11:30 PM

Hey fryea can you PM me your cell number. I will be down in Lake City on Friday installing a clutch in my 744. If that doesn't work then I will be available after ~6 on both Saturday and Sunday.

isaac · 10-08-2008, 11:37 PM

Those are really good numbers to have, but I agree it'd be a lot more helpful to have numbers on cams that aren't already extensively documented, like the B and the H. The B is pretty much an enigma.

10-08-2008, 01:25 AM	#1
fryea Board Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Seattlish, WA	Here are the EXACT K cam specs Here are the exact specs of the K Cam. The cam was stuck into a cam reader at a cam grinding shop and digitally fed into a machine. Hope this clears up any muddy areas as to what people specify for lift/duration/etc when designing their engines __________________ Quote to my passengers en route to a bar: "Sorry gals, volvsie doesnt want to drive anymore"

10-08-2008, 01:48 AM	#2
shellshock Below, is a photo of Clay Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Claremore Oklahoma	Interesting! How many miles on the cam? __________________ S60T5M

10-08-2008, 03:31 AM	#5
aplitz Donuts on your lawn Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Carson City, Nevada	That is an awesome machine! I always wondered how they figured out cam specs, I assumed it invloved black magic and goat sacrifice. Glad to hear its not pagan at all. __________________ '89 244-na, nothing special. http://s9.photobucket.com/albums/a62/242brick/car/

10-08-2008, 08:35 AM	#6
dl242gt Can play the blues Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: S NJ, a suburb of Phila.	That's some pretty cool information. It also proves that to rate a Volvo cam you should reference the lift and duration at .020" lift not the standard .050" that most US cam companies use. Credit for that knowledge is from Thomas Fritz. If you want to learn a lot about how the Volvo cams work. Read the Mushroom Lifter Effect on Thomas's Pbase page. __________________ Dave, 1982 242 turbo. MVP coilover front and rear suspension. Bilstein HD. IPD 25/25 bars. 3" MVP exhaust. Cosworth Sierra hot side T3 .48 with upgraded stock .42 compressor. Ported 90+.True Track diff. Flat hood 1979 front grill Ecode park/turn lights with H4 Hella. 321k miles. Had it since 1995. 1993 245 Classic, 340k miles, enem V15. Genuine Volvo stock over the axle exhaust.

10-08-2008, 12:38 PM	#7
stylngle2003 Board Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Two Up, Two Down	i can send an M and a T and A to be analyzed if you can get them back to me in relatively short order. IPD turbo too. i might also be able to get an Enem V15NA and a custom "GT6" cam as well. __________________ -Billy 1993 945ti "titebox" (DD) 1985 744GLE (perpetual +t project) 1996 Chevrolet Tahoe Vortec 2WD 1990 Mazda Miata track toy

10-08-2008, 01:54 AM	#3
badvlvo Bad for Babies Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: In my house.	I'd love to see the full specs on others like the D and H cams. But either way this is great information, nothing like what we have been going off before.

10-08-2008, 12:46 PM	#8
badvlvo Bad for Babies Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: In my house.	I have a D that could get done too if someone has the time. It's in the back seat of my car at Aplitz house.

10-08-2008, 01:58 PM	#10
Wagner Tbricks MIG Welding Champion Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Suomen Åbo	Wow, tangible (kind of) data, and usefull too. Thanks for sharing this with all of us, and it would be very intresting to see the results of the other OEM cams as well. So yeah, thanks. __________________ The long therm benefits of sunscreen have been proved by scientist.

10-08-2008, 02:13 PM	#11
TerribleOne Turbonormalizer Join Date: May 2003 Location: Kubotaville Va.	Ooooooh! Piece -a- candy! /James Woods __________________ 89 244tic- Ultimate sleeper - MZR/Duratec 2.3, Eagle rods, CP 8.5:1 jugs, GT3071R , 5R55E, Home-made turbo and intake manifolds, Electromotive TEC-GT, Tial BOV and WG, PCS Paddle shifters, Electronic gear select module 93 965- Daily driver 91 944se- Resto project 66 122s- Stock

10-08-2008, 02:14 PM	#12
neptune 2.1L 2.3L 2.8L 2.8L 2.8L Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Mountlake Terrace, WA	Sweet. Thanks for posting that. I have a T cam that just came off my 242 if you want to borrow it. Shoot me a PM. I can bring it Sunday if you're going to the meet. __________________ www.neptune242.com 1984 245 GL \| 1980 Bertone Coupé

10-08-2008, 03:54 PM	#13
stylngle2003 Board Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Two Up, Two Down	when next week do you need them? i need to scoop up the A cam from Vince and get the GT6 from Andy's house.

10-08-2008, 04:41 PM	#14
fidel knox motorsports Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: richmond, VA	i'll send my v15na and kg8 along with the ones from billy. i also have some custom b30 race boat cams.

10-08-2008, 04:44 PM	#15
Stereophile33 Board Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Portland, OR	I have plots for A, K, D, and a few others if they are helpful __________________ in quasi-retirement...

10-08-2008, 04:52 PM	#16
stylngle2003 Board Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Two Up, Two Down	is this machine able to do other configurations for cams (IE inline 5?). I don't mind paying shipping both ways if so. also, the GT6 isn't a true GT6, but a custom grind by Crower to mimic the GT6 more or less. just would be nice for comparisons

10-08-2008, 07:45 PM	#18
Poik Backwards Turbo Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Göteborg, Sweden	Where are you located? I have a Penta PZ cam I'd like to know the specs on, but I will warn you that if I do not get it back I will hunt you down.

10-08-2008, 09:10 PM	#22
stylngle2003 Board Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Two Up, Two Down	so if I send you ~8 cams and a coupla bucks for your time (and the cam guy's time), plus pay shipping both ways, we could do this thing like in a week and a half-two week timeframe? some of these cams will be destined for cars that are scheduled to run shortly (no, not mine ) and we'd need them back sooner than later

10-08-2008, 11:30 PM	#24
Poik Backwards Turbo Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Göteborg, Sweden	Hey fryea can you PM me your cell number. I will be down in Lake City on Friday installing a clutch in my 744. If that doesn't work then I will be available after ~6 on both Saturday and Sunday.

10-08-2008, 11:37 PM	#25
isaac F*ck the police Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Orlando, FL	Those are really good numbers to have, but I agree it'd be a lot more helpful to have numbers on cams that aren't already extensively documented, like the B and the H. The B is pretty much an enigma. __________________ "If you, the citizen, deliberately vote for someone who won't give you health care over someone who will, you need to have your head examined, except you can't afford to have your head examined." - Bill Maher "A turbocharged horse is a horse with a hose leading from its butt to its mouth" - my brother and Matt Dionne still rides with me

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