B-lennium's 164 '75 restauration

B-lennium · 09-30-2009, 05:21 AM

Hello guy's,

I am working on a 164 '75 for about a year now.

After reading on this forum and www.msefi.com i became interested in Mega squirt, i build a MSII computer, build a test-rig and ran the engine on the computer + Edis6 ignition.

Test rig

Ford mustang Edis6

I used the original distributor to cover the hole

An engine without a car is like Grand without the canyon

So I got the car from a neighbour for only a couple of hundred dollar. the car was in a not so bad state. I could patch it up and drive it, or I could go the total restoration route.
I chose the last one!

My final goal is a fun car (occasional trackcar) with a B30 Turbo engine!
I already have a nice Holset HX35 (new!) but first thinks first, no turbo without a car :P

PICS!!!!

A real american 164E Automatic with 80.000mile on the clock!

lots of work to be done here!

behind the signal-light

no more mister signal-light!

Big ass turbo!

Like I said I am working on the car for more than a year now, so more picture's will follow!

B-lennium · 09-30-2009, 05:31 AM

More Pictures!

Guess what i made?

A rig so i could rotate my car!

I made a rig so I could rotate my car, used the bumper mounting points
when the axles are removed I can tilt the car by hand!

I am using the rig so i could clean-up the bottom without hurting my back.
I had to remove alot of old paint and rust!

CLEAN!

I used 'rubber paint' to seal the floor of the car.

What a difference!

More pictures are coming!

B-lennium · 09-30-2009, 05:50 AM

This is the last picture reply, more will come eventually.

New bit for the back window

Ow my god I hate bondo work!

Bondo, more and more!

Clean fender

And finaly spraypainting!

My car on the trailer, the grey 164 is my dad's

Wrap up everything you don't what to paint!

Halfway

Finaly, BLACK!

It's looks like a car again!

I did a minor rebuild on the engine, new gaskets and oil cleaned it a bit and put on a new waterpump.
The gearbox is a M400 4 speed manual, way stronger than the BW35. I put new bearings in the box to be sure it can cope with my driving style :P

New clutch

A nice view of the engine and gearbox

Finaly together again

I removed the battery tray at the front and moved the battery to the back.
I picked a bmw 5 battery cable + connector-box at a local pick and pull.

Batterybox in the trunk

Connection-box

Starting to rewire the engine

I ditched the Edis6 module, I am driving the coilpack directly from the Mega squirt.

The brains of the beast

Triggerwheel and VRsensor

This is what the car looks like now

I ditched the big bumpercar bumpers and got something more nice and elegant.

Last week I won an E-bay auction on the German E-bay

2 of the 4 original Polaris wheels, I bet they look awesome!

These where the last pic's i have from my project, so now you know what Iam doing!
What do you think?

Dr Dokeh · 09-30-2009, 05:52 AM

Sweet!!! 164s are sooo cool.

swedishK · 09-30-2009, 06:11 AM

nice work. it looks great!

ZwerverRoodbaard · 09-30-2009, 06:33 AM

Nice project you've got there

That 164 looks very good in her black dress :P

PS: Where are you going to find 2 more Polaris wheels...?

B-lennium · 09-30-2009, 06:40 AM

I bought 4 wheels, only 2 on the picture!

4 wheels for 480 euro!

Sander · 09-30-2009, 07:37 AM

Nice! More and more nice projects keep popping up from holland

DNAsEqUeNcE · 09-30-2009, 07:42 AM

Nice work

Karl Buchka · 09-30-2009, 07:47 AM

Cool project! Keep us posted.

doucheNozzle · 09-30-2009, 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Karl Buchka

Cool project! Keep us posted.

This.

Turbosteen · 09-30-2009, 05:43 PM

Nice project! I really like the B30 sound

voca164e · 09-30-2009, 05:47 PM

That has come together very nicely! What's left?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Turbosteen

Nice project! I really like the B30 sound

Yes a B30 does sound great!

B-lennium · 10-01-2009, 07:16 AM

thanks for all the nice reactions!
what's left?

tuning would be a big issue.
mounting the wheels could be a problem.
lower the car.
building a turbo manifold/intake.
tuning again

do's anyone have a base tune for a b30?

wightghost · 10-01-2009, 09:48 PM

Sweet looking 164. Always loved these cars.

BrickBorg612 · 10-02-2009, 10:42 AM

well done! I love the 164s.

B-lennium · 10-04-2009, 10:29 AM

Hey!

the megasquirt works!, i still have to do a lot of tuning (learning!), but it works!
My MS setup:

Megasquirt II V3.0
Msextra 2.10 code
36-1 wheel + VR input.
3x direct coil control (wasted spark) Edis6 coil.

to do:
Techedge WBO2
Launch control
Bosch 3wire idle control

john r h · 10-04-2009, 02:54 PM

Looks very nice.

What are you doing with the engine internals?

John

B-lennium · 10-04-2009, 03:11 PM

nothing so far, i am looking for 300hp, that would be possible with stock internals.
the crank is a 8bolt one, so i could use M-rod if i am right.

foggyjames · 10-07-2009, 02:01 PM

Did you swap the front panel for an earlier one?

cheers

James

B-lennium · 10-07-2009, 02:33 PM

good find!,

no I did not swap the panel, I yust removed the bar that holds the grill in the 75' , with the bar removed you can fit an early type grill.

pisco · 10-07-2009, 02:38 PM

Beautiful restoration work! Finally someone on here has the guts & money enough to turbocharge a B30! I've had to put off resto on my '71 for 2 years now but I shall have it running again by year end.

foggyjames · 10-07-2009, 06:32 PM

I didn't know that! I don't suppose you still have the 'slash' from the early grille do you...if you're not using it? Mine is missings its one

cheers

James

B-lennium · 10-08-2009, 08:51 AM

no I don't have it, i know they are damn expensive!

B-lennium · 10-15-2009, 02:37 PM

Hey a little update.

I am still fighting my megasquirt :P

got a nice idle now, no spikes (after some tweaking).
Next step? Idle control !

I am using a Bosch idle valve, but it won't work! valve is ok, the wiring is ok, now i have to open up the megasquirt again.

I also discovered my (NEW) masterbrake cilinder is faulty!, the second circuit is not working!.
now I am waiting on a new one, so i can finaly drive the car for the first time!

argh

09-30-2009, 05:21 AM	#1
B-lennium Board Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Holland	B-lennium's 164 '75 restauration Hello guy's, I am working on a 164 '75 for about a year now. After reading on this forum and www.msefi.com i became interested in Mega squirt, i build a MSII computer, build a test-rig and ran the engine on the computer + Edis6 ignition. Test rig Ford mustang Edis6 I used the original distributor to cover the hole An engine without a car is like Grand without the canyon So I got the car from a neighbour for only a couple of hundred dollar. the car was in a not so bad state. I could patch it up and drive it, or I could go the total restoration route. I chose the last one! My final goal is a fun car (occasional trackcar) with a B30 Turbo engine! I already have a nice Holset HX35 (new!) but first thinks first, no turbo without a car :P PICS!!!! A real american 164E Automatic with 80.000mile on the clock! lots of work to be done here! behind the signal-light no more mister signal-light! Big ass turbo! Like I said I am working on the car for more than a year now, so more picture's will follow! __________________ Volvo 164e B30e, KG-17 cam & Isky valvetrain, Megasquirt MSII extra, EDIS6, Polaris. Follow my work in the project tread. Project 164

09-30-2009, 05:52 AM	#4
Dr Dokeh staring at my desk Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: South Wales, UK	Sweet!!! 164s are sooo cool. __________________ 1998 Volvo S90

09-30-2009, 06:33 AM	#6
ZwerverRoodbaard Board Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: The Netherlands	Nice project you've got there That 164 looks very good in her black dress :P PS: Where are you going to find 2 more Polaris wheels...? __________________ 1997 Volvo 940 Holiday - B230FK, 16T, Koni, BlaBla chips, LPG-G3 - Daily 1984 Volvo 360 GLS - Koni Yellow, PU, not so sure about the engine - Project

09-30-2009, 07:37 AM	#8
Sander Good news everyone! Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: The Netherlands	Nice! More and more nice projects keep popping up from holland __________________ '89 Volvo 745 GLT 16V+Turbo '91 Toyota MR2 Turbo (SW22) Click! '97 Volvo 480 ES 2.0L Click! - SOLD '93 Lincoln Town Car land yacht Click! - SOLD

09-30-2009, 07:47 AM	#10
Karl Buchka Never go full retard. Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Gothenburg, Sweden	Cool project! Keep us posted. __________________ No real power, just turbo shіt. Whiteblock swap guide / My brother has The Best Damn Garage In Town I don't think "fіtment" means what you think it means.

09-30-2009, 05:31 AM	#2
B-lennium Board Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Holland	More Pictures! Guess what i made? A rig so i could rotate my car! I made a rig so I could rotate my car, used the bumper mounting points when the axles are removed I can tilt the car by hand! I am using the rig so i could clean-up the bottom without hurting my back. I had to remove alot of old paint and rust! CLEAN! I used 'rubber paint' to seal the floor of the car. What a difference! More pictures are coming!

09-30-2009, 05:50 AM	#3
B-lennium Board Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Holland	This is the last picture reply, more will come eventually. New bit for the back window Ow my god I hate bondo work! Bondo, more and more! Clean fender And finaly spraypainting! My car on the trailer, the grey 164 is my dad's Wrap up everything you don't what to paint! Halfway Finaly, BLACK! It's looks like a car again! I did a minor rebuild on the engine, new gaskets and oil cleaned it a bit and put on a new waterpump. The gearbox is a M400 4 speed manual, way stronger than the BW35. I put new bearings in the box to be sure it can cope with my driving style :P New clutch A nice view of the engine and gearbox Finaly together again I removed the battery tray at the front and moved the battery to the back. I picked a bmw 5 battery cable + connector-box at a local pick and pull. Batterybox in the trunk Connection-box Starting to rewire the engine I ditched the Edis6 module, I am driving the coilpack directly from the Mega squirt. The brains of the beast Triggerwheel and VRsensor This is what the car looks like now I ditched the big bumpercar bumpers and got something more nice and elegant. Last week I won an E-bay auction on the German E-bay 2 of the 4 original Polaris wheels, I bet they look awesome! These where the last pic's i have from my project, so now you know what Iam doing! What do you think?

09-30-2009, 06:40 AM	#7
B-lennium Board Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Holland	I bought 4 wheels, only 2 on the picture! 4 wheels for 480 euro!

09-30-2009, 05:43 PM	#12
Turbosteen I'm back Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Netherlands, Europe	Nice project! I really like the B30 sound __________________ Philip Project '82 \| Amazon \| B204GT \| Feedback

10-01-2009, 07:16 AM	#14
B-lennium Board Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Holland	thanks for all the nice reactions! what's left? tuning would be a big issue. mounting the wheels could be a problem. lower the car. building a turbo manifold/intake. tuning again do's anyone have a base tune for a b30?

10-01-2009, 09:48 PM	#15
wightghost Board Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Brisbane, Australia	Sweet looking 164. Always loved these cars.

10-04-2009, 10:29 AM	#17
B-lennium Board Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Holland	Hey! the megasquirt works!, i still have to do a lot of tuning (learning!), but it works! My MS setup: Megasquirt II V3.0 Msextra 2.10 code 36-1 wheel + VR input. 3x direct coil control (wasted spark) Edis6 coil. to do: Techedge WBO2 Launch control Bosch 3wire idle control

10-04-2009, 02:54 PM	#18
john r h Board Member Join Date: Mar 2009	Looks very nice. What are you doing with the engine internals? John

10-04-2009, 03:11 PM	#19
B-lennium Board Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Holland	nothing so far, i am looking for 300hp, that would be possible with stock internals. the crank is a 8bolt one, so i could use M-rod if i am right.

10-07-2009, 02:01 PM	#20
foggyjames Ryan's spanner monkey Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Lincoln, UK	Did you swap the front panel for an earlier one? cheers James __________________ '05 V70 D5 '88 360 Turbo Intercooler '84 360 GLT '81 343 GLS R-Sport '80 343 DL '69 164 PM me if you're looking for Euro parts!

10-07-2009, 02:33 PM	#21
B-lennium Board Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Holland	good find!, no I did not swap the panel, I yust removed the bar that holds the grill in the 75' , with the bar removed you can fit an early type grill.

10-07-2009, 02:38 PM	#22
pisco Cruisin' in my Longboat. Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: San Diego, Ca	Beautiful restoration work! Finally someone on here has the guts & money enough to turbocharge a B30! I've had to put off resto on my '71 for 2 years now but I shall have it running again by year end. __________________ 1973 164e M410 Pacific Blue/Maroon leather int. Daily driver...so far 1971 164 flat black parts car...so far

10-07-2009, 06:32 PM	#23
foggyjames Ryan's spanner monkey Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Lincoln, UK	I didn't know that! I don't suppose you still have the 'slash' from the early grille do you...if you're not using it? Mine is missings its one cheers James

10-08-2009, 08:51 AM	#24
B-lennium Board Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Holland	no I don't have it, i know they are damn expensive!

10-15-2009, 02:37 PM	#25
B-lennium Board Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Holland	Hey a little update. I am still fighting my megasquirt :P got a nice idle now, no spikes (after some tweaking). Next step? Idle control ! I am using a Bosch idle valve, but it won't work! valve is ok, the wiring is ok, now i have to open up the megasquirt again. I also discovered my (NEW) masterbrake cilinder is faulty!, the second circuit is not working!. now I am waiting on a new one, so i can finaly drive the car for the first time! argh

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