142 Turbo Kalmar

[Tamnakz]

I know the video is a repost, but what's with the delayed start?

I've seen it with many European videos. . . Can they not throttle beforehand or something?

[towerymt]

Test and tune? No need to cut a good r/t, just focus on the launch and get down the track as best as you can.

Last time I went, I had a 1sec+ r/t because the car next to me was loud and I didn't care to race a 9sec car when I was only looking for a good time/ET.

[ZVOLV]

Whats really dick is when a faster car redlights against you on purpose.

[Tamnakz]

Every video I've seen of this car, and several built by the same company, are the same. . .

No spool until lights. They don't even throttle until the other car takes off!

Makes me want to see a video leaving the line proper. . . 10.6 second quarter, but doesn't leave the line 'till more than two seconds after the first car. . .

[ZVOLV]

There's a big difference than getting the best ET vs. getting the winning light. There are times when you have an ET .5 seconds slower than the opponent, but still win.

[Tamnakz]

I'm talking about the fact that the driver does not take off until two seconds after the green light?

[ZVOLV]

And we're talking about the fact that he is just doing it to practice a good launch and ET. I do it too sometimes.

[ZVOLV]

It can be hard to relax and do it right sometimes when you are excited and your heart is racing. Spectators, opponent, clutching, staging, can all throw you off.

[Tamnakz]

every time your out to the track?

I've seen several videos of several cars, each with the same technique? I just find it hard to grasp that when a driver for a car company that's built a 8-9 second car is putting out a video to showcase, they'd do it with a clip that shows a far slower time than the car can attain?

Not to mention. . . the car is labeled 'the fastest around' at a 10.6xx. In reality. . . it's faster, but doesn't throttle until the light. . . waits for spool to launch.

I'm simply saying. . . anyonein the states competing would, ideally, be at x boost and ready for the light. . . that's not the case here.

[Tamnakz]

This car does it.

[ZVOLV]

That only works if you are way faster than the other car. Or if you dont car about the "win".

On the timeslip they tell you the difference in which you beat the other car across the finish line. If the faster car took off at the same time it would reflect that on the timeslip that takes into account RT.

Basically, in those videos, the guys are just messing around and trying to put the fastest ET down on paper. They dont care about reaction time, or what the other car is doing.

[ZVOLV]

Oh, and maybe you are also confused that the clock doesnt start when the tree drops. It starts when your front tires cross the light beam.

Then there is deep staging where you start behind the line and maybe even roll maybe 6 inches before the clock even starts. It can get kinda confusing.

[towerymt]

Originally Posted by Tamnakz

I'm simply saying. . .

What I'm reading is that you don't know how the Christmas tree works.

Roll up to the line, break the first beam, first staging light comes on.
Keep rolling, second staging light comes on (roll too far, one or both go out, back up)
Wait for yellow lights to start dropping (all at once on a pro tree).
Leave on last yellow, by the time you get rolling, the green light is on.
Leave before the green, you red light, you lost.
Leave after the green, the gap is your reaction time.
'Sleep' on the light, you get a long R/T.
Your time starts when YOU break the start beam.
Get a slower ET than your opponent, but beat him to the finish line, and you have made a hole shot win. Your quicker R/T made up the difference in your slower ET.

Only time I know that R/T counts is in ProSolo (like autocross, but with a Christmas tree start). When the light turns green, your time starts, so it is advantageous to get a R/T as close to .500 as possible. In Solo, tenths are vital, so a .580 light compared to a .780 light is a huge advantage.

[Tamnakz]

Gotcha... I always assumed time started by the tree, NOT by your leaving the line. . .

Now it all makes sense. Thank you sensai!

[Aussie Volvo]

Hi

It could be bracket racing

Slow car against faster car

Slow car goes first. Faster car plays catch up. If either car runs faster than there listed time they lose.

[ZVOLV]

Yeah, and there is also bracket racing. ^

[smokeyfan1000]

Looks to me like they are "bracket racing".

[thevolvokid]

Bracket racing is what is going on here.

[noz-e8tr]

No, its not bracket racing... Watch the tree, no delay. Both get the green at the same time.

[smokeyfan1000]

Maybe his delay box is not set right??

[towerymt]

It's a test & tune, you noobs

[smokeyfan1000]

Maybe test & tune, but I'll bet he's setting uo delay box.

[ZVOLV]

Originally Posted by towerymt

It's a test & tune, you noobs

Looks like just an old fashioned in-your-face-ass-kicking to me.

[2turbotoys]

I work part time for a shop, the shop car is a showcase for the products, but it is driven by the mechanic. He's not very good yet, and doesn't get much practice because he's always working. The car (twin turbo 6 buick regal) could easily do a high 9, but he can only drive a 10 flat.

[ZVOLV]

Originally Posted by 2turbotoys

I work part time for a shop, the shop car is a showcase for the products, but it is driven by the mechanic. He's not very good yet, and doesn't get much practice because he's always working. The car (twin turbo 6 buick regal) could easily do a high 9, but he can only drive a 10 flat.

So?