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Old 11-07-2010, 04:56 AM   #1
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So at some point this summer my beloved 87 745 decided that she wanted to have intermittent running issues (but this article is not about her).

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After leaving me stranded on the side of the road a few times (and costing me two tows) I decided it was time for "more reliable" (read: "less electrically hacked") transportation:



Enter the new 1997 V90 Wagon. I had my eye on owning one of these for some time but never figured I'd actually buy one. But on the third of October I wrote a check for somewhere around $2500 and drove her home from Ballard (the place where ALL Volvos in Seattle magically originate).



At this point she is my daily driver. Modifications will follow (as they must) but for now they will be pretty mild.




As you may have guessed, suspension (more accurately, stance) is my current priority. She definitely needs to be lower. I've looked into a few different ideas and I'm investigating switching to MK1 IRS swing arms to open up my options for the rear. The front should be easier.

She is sitting on Work 18' VS-TXs. The wheels that Weezil had and other TB'ers before him (they are TB OG wheels fo sho).

I might try the modified BMW header bit sometime down the road but ATM my exhaust is working.

I think that's about all for now. I'll continue to update this thread/post as I make progress.
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Old 11-07-2010, 06:05 AM   #2
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Nice car, good to see someone else trying to mod a 9. As for switching to mk1 IRS arms at the rear, the only stumbling block that I've encountered is where would you mount the roll bar?, the mk2 arms bolt directly to the rollbar on the mk1 there are no bolt holes(and the arm is wider).
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Old 11-07-2010, 08:16 AM   #3
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Great looking car, I loved my 965 when it was in it's prime. One of the best things I did was remove all the lower trim, sand it with 320, and shot it with several cans of Krylon semi-gloss black plastic paint. It held up great and I no longer had to worry with the graying issues.
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Old 11-07-2010, 09:09 PM   #4
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Great looking car, I loved my 965 when it was in it's prime. One of the best things I did was remove all the lower trim, sand it with 320, and shot it with several cans of Krylon semi-gloss black plastic paint. It held up great and I no longer had to worry with the graying issues.
Even better, body match that ****



edit:// Hey OP yur cars real purdy
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Old 11-07-2010, 10:57 PM   #5
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keep the IRS you have. its better... modify the leaf and add coilovers.
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Old 11-07-2010, 11:34 PM   #6
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Love the wheels on your car! Glad they went to a good home.
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Old 11-07-2010, 11:55 PM   #7
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What ever happened with that car?
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Old 11-08-2010, 12:12 AM   #8
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Thanks guys.

Ben, the wheels look super good. Thanks for the deal.

I probably should body match that trim. I'm debating whether I want to pull it off and sand it smooth or just pull it off and paint it.




As far as the IRS components are concerned, I'm not looking for much of a performance increase (if any). I have a 240z and a 300zxt for that kind of stuff. I just want to lower the car for cosmetic reasons. I've been debating putting it on air bags but I'm a bit hesitant to mention that (because it may not happen and I don't want to get flamed). Problem with the MK2 IRS is that there aren't really any mounting points for anything on it. I assumed to run anything other than helper springs (like your setup poi), I would need to do some major work.

I guess this all begs a new question:
How low does the back sit without the shocks (supported by just the leaf)?

I haven't had a chance to look at it but if I can get a significant drop out of the back without removing the rear leaf then I'll just leave the MK2 trailing arms and do something like poi did.

What did you mean by modify the leaf anyway?




BTW: poi, I've been looking through your build threads and pictures and I continue to be impressed. I've liked you car since I saw it on the main page.

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Old 11-08-2010, 12:45 AM   #9
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V90 front end with 850R bumper = win!
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Old 11-08-2010, 02:44 AM   #10
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As you may have guessed, suspension (more accurately, stance) is my current priority. She definitely needs to be lower. I've looked into a few different ideas and I'm investigating switching to MK1 IRS swing arms to open up my options for the rear. The front should be easier.
Even the new signal couldn't budge it.
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Old 11-08-2010, 03:01 AM   #11
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Old 11-08-2010, 05:57 AM   #12
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please, please, please, please get different wheels.
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Old 11-14-2010, 02:27 AM   #13
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Got my new trailing arms (courtesy of 2manyturbos, thanks again). Just gotta put her on jack stands and see what I need to fab to make the back work.


Took some time today to shoot with Travis (Freq). He's pretty stinking good:



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Even the new signal couldn't budge it.
Yeah, but an Econolite 8-8-12 only weighs about 35 lbs. I know I had more weight in the back of my wagon when I was trying to meet up with ya in 2009 to sell you the other Econolites I had.

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Old 11-14-2010, 05:31 AM   #15
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What ever happened with that car?
I've been driving it around for ever. Mildly worked NA for the time being, but I'm gonna do a smog-legal 16v swap in a few months.

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I guess this all begs a new question:
How low does the back sit without the shocks (supported by just the leaf)?
On a Nivo-equipped car, it'll sit with the top of the tires coincident with the wheel well, maybe a slight tuck. On a non-Nivo car, it'll just sit at ride height (obviously). Most wagons have the Nivos, but there were apparently quite a few that didn't, so its worth checking. I'm investigating just putting all the weight of the car on the shock mounts and ditching the spring. May require some welding on the torque arm to beef up the mounting point.

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Workin on it.
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I'm investigating just putting all the weight of the car on the shock mounts and ditching the spring. May require some welding on the torque arm to beef up the mounting point.
Do you have any ideas for making the bottom mount double shear?
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I've been driving it around for ever. Mildly worked NA for the time being, but I'm gonna do a smog-legal 16v swap in a few months.
lol? what happened to the huge turbo and FMIC and such?
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lol? what happened to the huge turbo and FMIC and such?
ca smog nazis? just a guess
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Beautiful car. The wheels match it very well, you really need to lower it though.
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Old 11-15-2010, 10:38 PM   #21
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Do you have any ideas for making the bottom mount double shear?
Yup, that's the idea. If it's as straightforward as I think it is, I'll probably sell a cheap kit. It would require welding onto the trailing arm, but that's not too bad
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Beautiful car. The wheels match it very well, you really need to lower it though.
Thanks man. It's in the works

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Yup, that's the idea. If it's as straightforward as I think it is, I'll probably sell a cheap kit. It would require welding onto the trailing arm, but that's not too bad
Yeah. Since I've got the older arms I'm still considering swapping them out. This would make bagging the car easier if I chose to go that route instead of adjustable coil-overs (Again, I'm more interested in stance on this car than performance).

I'm thinking about welding tabs (like: /o\) to the top of the MK1 arm and the frame rail allowing me to mount the shock directly between the two (it will probably need to be mounted at an angle depending on travel requirements and size). I'm not sure how this will affect functionality though. It may work better to mount it inboard of the arm like on the MK2's. Space and upper mounts are also a concern and I haven't spent enough time looking at the chassis at this location to make any decisions yet.

Just out of curiosity, how bad would it angle the coilover assembly (camber-wise for lack of a better way of putting it) if you were to mount it on top of the MK2 trailing arm. It seems to me that it would be far simpler than augmenting the arm to include a second shear point at the original location.

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Old 11-16-2010, 03:10 AM   #23
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Without any shocks fitted and a nivo leaf(which is softer) the back end will sit quite low (probably level with the top of the alloy),with a none nivo leaf fitted it doesn't make any difference at all. I'm attempting to get a replacement leaf made up in steel but so far no ones answered my emails. From the fact that the body still has the original top spring mounts in place I would presume that fitting the mk1 arms would line up the spring and therefore the shocker mounts with what's already on the body. Would still like to see how you get around the roll bar problem, if you figure it out let me know as I also have a pair of mk1 arms lying around waiting to be fitted.
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Old 11-18-2010, 06:11 PM   #25
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Well, I pulled the Works off today and poked around my rear suspension a little. Here's what I've got to work with:







It's gonna be a tight fit to say the least.
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