Update on S60R brakes *holy ****!*

Hank Scorpio · 07-28-2004, 08:57 PM

Well put a new master cylinder on and pulled the rear reduction valves off.

All I can say is... you'll need 5pt belts now

The car stops so unbelievably hard its painful. 120-0 stops time after time no problem, with the OEM pads.

Let me put it this way, theres a strip of road by my shop where I ussualy can go from 5-120 and then JAM on the brakes to get it slowed in time. First time, I stopped COMPLETELY, probably a 100' short.

Second time, still about 50' short

third time I about shate myself from diving into it so deep and I STILL coulda waited longer.

Its insane.

Gotta box those a-arms now

Doug

Boosted2003 · 07-28-2004, 09:03 PM

sinc_nick · 07-28-2004, 09:13 PM

any more details on the install, i would love to hear some details, this sounds like it is a worthy upgrade...did you need to modify anything significantly to make them fit right?

Hank Scorpio · 07-28-2004, 09:16 PM

Im going to say you'll have to do a search.

sinc_nick · 07-28-2004, 09:23 PM

thought so, you are based out of sacramento right?
i am right down the street...

Hank Scorpio · 07-28-2004, 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sinc_nick

thought so, you are based out of sacramento right?
i am right down the street...

Right out of Elk Grove.

Should have come down to the BBQ

dbarton · 07-28-2004, 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snoop Dougy Doug

third time I about shate myself from diving into it so deep and I STILL coulda waited longer.

YES! A self shate-worthy conversion if I ever did see one

Let me know if you happen to locate any aftermarket pads for that "R" caliper. I have the EBC Greens on mine, but it would be nice to have a couple other options beside stock pads, like maybe some Mintex or PBR.
Dave B.

TRBO242 · 07-28-2004, 10:59 PM

SWEET!!!! As soon as I find that 75, it's on.

Hey Doug or Dave,

could one of you post a picture looking in straight at the brakes through the wheels... do they fill them completely?

nick

dbarton · 07-28-2004, 11:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TRBO242

could one of you post a picture looking in straight at the brakes through the wheels... do they fill them completely? nick

Fills it up pretty good in my 18s.
Dave B.

Hank Scorpio · 07-29-2004, 12:19 AM

on your peggies Nick ;)

Dave, if it is indeed the same caliper (well will atleast accept the same pads) there are tons of choices. SCC magazine had a big article about EVO/STI brake setups (the OEM discs look identical inside as well too) ... I believe they had absolutely rave reviews on Feredo's (sp?)

I'll dig it up

grebnut · 07-29-2004, 01:31 AM

thats just awesome, doug and dave! im glad to hear the test feedback... thats what i was waiting for... sounds good. are the brakes starting to overpower the tires at all? and everything is smooth not grabby? sounds good! later,

ben

n xntrx volvo · 07-29-2004, 01:32 AM

please tell me you took pics for a article, pppppppppppllllllllllleeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaasssss sssseeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hank Scorpio · 07-29-2004, 01:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by grebnut

thats just awesome, doug and dave! im glad to hear the test feedback... thats what i was waiting for... sounds good. are the brakes starting to overpower the tires at all? and everything is smooth not grabby? sounds good! later,

ben

No Im really surprized, its like the earth just stops rotating under the car. Course, I have 235's front/rear.

Aaron, I did take plenty. Its really straight forward, you could probably knock it out in about 4 hours.

I got crazy and involved, but I always do

TRBO242 · 07-29-2004, 02:23 AM

thanks guys! great pics.

nice wheels doug ;)

nico

gecko · 07-29-2004, 02:33 AM

doug are those 18" pegasus or the 17s? it looks like it says 17 on the sidewall but its hard to tell with the bottle of tire shine you used ;)

MikeHardy · 07-29-2004, 02:56 AM

it says 17 (sorry chiggster),

http://www.pbase.com/image/31601084/original

gecko · 07-29-2004, 03:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ravennexus

it says 17 (sorry chiggster),

http://www.pbase.com/image/31601084/original

is that something that doug photoshopped or did he change rims again?

Hank Scorpio · 07-29-2004, 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gecko

is that something that doug photoshopped or did he change rims again?

Yes, I CHANGED wheels AGAIN

My moda's wouldn't clear the brakes, I got the peggies in a pinch.

vurbo · 07-29-2004, 03:51 PM

only if these brake's fit inder 16's... (sigh)

gecko · 07-30-2004, 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snoop Dougy Doug

Yes, I CHANGED wheels AGAIN

My moda's wouldn't clear the brakes, I got the peggies in a pinch.

well that brings up an interesting question.....how much space do you have between the caliper and spoke of the rim? granted you have this on a 242.....but its starting to look like polaris rims or any deep dish rims for that matter wouldn't clear the calipers if i ever get around to putting on R brakes.

dbarton · 07-30-2004, 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gecko

well that brings up an interesting question.....how much space do you have between the caliper and spoke of the rim? granted you have this on a 242.....but its starting to look like polaris rims or any deep dish rims for that matter wouldn't clear the calipers if i ever get around to putting on R brakes.

Exact dimensions are difficult, but essentially I think you need about 1 inch clearance between the original brakes and wheels in order to clear these brakes since the R brakes will be more outboard (unless of course you go with custom hats and redesign the brackets). Polaris are very tight to the original brakes, so they will not work without adding spacers. Most shallow dish front drive type wheels will work, such as those Doug put on (with spacers of course). So it means your wheel choices will be limited with this setup.
Dave B.

Hank Scorpio · 07-30-2004, 06:01 PM

the calipers do NOT stick out past the hub + 25mm spacers. Your milage may vary.

I measured them roughly (forgot the exact measurements) but it looks like Titans would clear,they have a pretty flat inside detail to the rim.

JohnLane · 07-30-2004, 06:10 PM

You guys haven't been bending control arms?
With big brakes I bent control arms such that the tires rubbed the inner fender the first time I applied them hard.
DO box your control arms. One flat plate across the bottom is enough.
Good for you Doug!!
JL.

gecko · 07-30-2004, 06:34 PM

thanks doug and dave, that's exactly what i figured......hmmmm guess its time to go pick up some of those c70 5 spokes

Mach375 · 07-30-2004, 07:10 PM

I may be getting the "do a search" reply here, but is this only workable on the 200s? Any idea of 700 application? Or am I gonna have to get 200 series spindles?

07-28-2004, 08:57 PM	#1
Hank Scorpio Chubfest 2009 Survivor Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: deafing the neighbors, one day at a time.	Update on S60R brakes holy **! Well put a new master cylinder on and pulled the rear reduction valves off. All I can say is... you'll need 5pt belts now The car stops so unbelievably hard its painful. 120-0 stops time after time no problem, with the OEM pads. Let me put it this way, theres a strip of road by my shop where I ussualy can go from 5-120 and then JAM on the brakes to get it slowed in time. First time, I stopped COMPLETELY, probably a 100' short. Second time, still about 50' short third time I about shate myself from diving into it so deep and I STILL coulda waited longer. Its insane. Gotta box those a-arms now Doug __________________ off ~~playin~~ building geetar(s). bbl

07-28-2004, 09:03 PM	#2
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07-28-2004, 09:13 PM	#3
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07-28-2004, 10:59 PM	#8
TRBO242 Board Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Oakland, CA	pics's SWEET!!!! As soon as I find that 75, it's on. Hey Doug or Dave, could one of you post a picture looking in straight at the brakes through the wheels... do they fill them completely? nick __________________ '98 V70R 5spd, '68 140S, 780 BERTONE lemons race car.

07-29-2004, 01:31 AM	#11
grebnut TheSlovo Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Olympia, WA	thats just awesome, doug and dave! im glad to hear the test feedback... thats what i was waiting for... sounds good. are the brakes starting to overpower the tires at all? and everything is smooth not grabby? sounds good! later, ben __________________ Pics

07-28-2004, 09:16 PM	#4
Hank Scorpio Chubfest 2009 Survivor Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: deafing the neighbors, one day at a time.	Im going to say you'll have to do a search.

07-28-2004, 09:23 PM	#5
sinc_nick Board Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Sacramento Ca	thought so, you are based out of sacramento right? i am right down the street...

07-29-2004, 12:19 AM	#10
Hank Scorpio Chubfest 2009 Survivor Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: deafing the neighbors, one day at a time.	on your peggies Nick ;) Dave, if it is indeed the same caliper (well will atleast accept the same pads) there are tons of choices. SCC magazine had a big article about EVO/STI brake setups (the OEM discs look identical inside as well too) ... I believe they had absolutely rave reviews on Feredo's (sp?) I'll dig it up

07-29-2004, 01:32 AM	#12
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07-29-2004, 02:23 AM	#14
TRBO242 Board Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Oakland, CA	thanks guys! great pics. nice wheels doug ;) nico

07-29-2004, 02:33 AM	#15
gecko Board Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: N. VA	doug are those 18" pegasus or the 17s? it looks like it says 17 on the sidewall but its hard to tell with the bottle of tire shine you used ;) __________________ _____________________________ 1991 780T... 0-60 curvy roads COMING SOON: 19T, proturbo header, 16v head, stroker crank, redesigned 3" exhaust 1988 240.... 0-60 curvy roads daily driver TOTALED anybody selling a sweet car? Last edited by gecko; 07-29-2004 at 02:39 AM..

07-29-2004, 02:56 AM	#16
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07-30-2004, 06:01 PM	#22
Hank Scorpio Chubfest 2009 Survivor Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: deafing the neighbors, one day at a time.	the calipers do NOT stick out past the hub + 25mm spacers. Your milage may vary. I measured them roughly (forgot the exact measurements) but it looks like Titans would clear,they have a pretty flat inside detail to the rim.

07-30-2004, 06:10 PM	#23
JohnLane Board Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Northern Washington	You guys haven't been bending control arms? With big brakes I bent control arms such that the tires rubbed the inner fender the first time I applied them hard. DO box your control arms. One flat plate across the bottom is enough. Good for you Doug!! JL. __________________ Overkill is consistently more fun. Impossible numbers guy!!

07-30-2004, 06:34 PM	#24
gecko Board Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: N. VA	thanks doug and dave, that's exactly what i figured......hmmmm guess its time to go pick up some of those c70 5 spokes

07-30-2004, 07:10 PM	#25
Mach375 No Logo Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Where you wish I wasn't	I may be getting the "do a search" reply here, but is this only workable on the 200s? Any idea of 700 application? Or am I gonna have to get 200 series spindles? __________________ Since certain people on this board feel signatures can't convey important information in them, you should click this signature line anyway. You'll be smarter when you do...at least smarter than certain people on this board that feel signatures can't convey important information.

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