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Old 12-31-2010, 02:20 PM   #1
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Hey guys,

I've been bouncing around the forums for the last few months, accumulating know-how and parts for this project. I'm ready to start the work now, so I figured it was a good time to start a thread.

We raced an e39 M5 in the 2010 Targa Newfoundland this past Sept., but we only entered the Grand Touring class with that car. I didn't want to put a roll cage in that car, so we "took it easy", per say. This is a link to the actual event:

http://www.targanewfoundland.com/

Now I'm ready to haul arse in next year's event. The entire trip home (1 1/2 days), I was putting this project together on paper and in my head. I originally wanted to build a 122, but put the lid on that pretty quick. So, I came up with this idea:

This is the Blue Bast**d. A 1983 245 Turbo. picked up from a fella in NJ in Sept. for $500, paid $200 to have it shipped to me in MA.

Stock K-jet with floor board rust - will have the cage fabricators patch this up in January 2011.
No reverse lights but working OD - rewired the light and OD circuits - but the wires keep coming off of the reverse switch. But, I know a guy that will pass it for me , and will do a permanent fix when the T5 goes in.
Biggest issue was leaky vac lines - all taken care of.

It runs great now after bringing it near Stage 0. Haven't done the PVC system yet, as I didn't want to remove the intake manifold.

It's already gutted, aside from the two front seats, as I still need to get it inspected. Then I'm putting in 2 Corbeau seats and taking it to the fabricators for the cage and floor repair. I want to make sure I can build on this car before putting all the work into it.
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Old 12-31-2010, 02:42 PM   #2
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The plan is as follows:

530 head w/oversized valves - have
IPD turbo cam - (need to get)
MS (fuel only) - (need to get)
B23 intake - (have) with a Chrysler FPR feeding Bosch 0 280 150 400 46# injectors (need)
15g - have
T5 swap - (have freshly rebuilt WC T5 for 86-92 5.0 Stang)
NPR I/C - (need to get)
740t in-tank pump feeding 240t main pump with a new sending unit (have all)
BBS mesh - 16x7 (have)
full upgrade of all suspension componenets + HD Bilsteins and IPD or B&G springs (have some stuff, need most)
brakes - probably run stock caliper with better rotors and ceramic pads, stainless steel lines

Here are some goodies:
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Old 12-31-2010, 03:16 PM   #3
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Best colour in my opinion. Good luck.
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Old 12-31-2010, 04:08 PM   #4
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Great find! +1 on best color.
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Old 12-31-2010, 04:50 PM   #5
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What are you going to do for ignition?
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Old 12-31-2010, 05:57 PM   #6
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Thanks dudes.

From what I understand, you can use the stock ignition (with improvements like an MSD coil) on this with the MS for fuel. I may go this route to get it running right, then switch over to MS for ignition as well. I have a time limit to get this thing ready and want to avoid changing both fuel and ignition in the engine at the same time.
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Dont forget the MSD box as well.
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Old 12-31-2010, 07:24 PM   #8
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The ignition is easy to do. Just get a LH 2.2 distributor and slap it in. That's were you can make some power over kjet. The fueling won't be that much of an improvement.
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Old 12-31-2010, 11:18 PM   #9
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I meant to add the MSD box...I run through the various parts of this project in my mind all the time and leave parts out

From what I've read, fueling with MS will make a huge improvement over K-Ket. With the MS ignition, I would need to run new wires to the distributor, no?
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Old 12-31-2010, 11:19 PM   #10
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I would need to run new wires to the distributor
How long does that take?
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Old 01-01-2011, 01:19 AM   #11
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It's more a matter of getting the wiring correct while trying to sort the fuel out as well. Too much all at once, and it's tough to diagnose any problems that arise. Mechanical stuff I can do all day, I'm not a huge fan of wiring by any stretch of the imagination.

On a side note...on the pic of the intake manifold, what is that thing in the hose coming off the center of the manifold (sort of resting on the fuel rail)?
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Old 01-01-2011, 03:23 PM   #12
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On a side note...on the pic of the intake manifold, what is that thing in the hose coming off the center of the manifold (sort of resting on the fuel rail)?
Looks like vacuum source with check valve. Power brakes or vent system?
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It's for your HVAC
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Old 01-01-2011, 04:40 PM   #14
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Targa Newfoundland has been on my to-do list for a long time. Would love to take the 242 up there some day.

Good luck with the project. Can't wait to see this take shape.

If you need any help with an MS install or wiring, send kildea a private message. He's nearby in Wellesley and has done quite a few installs for people.
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Great to know, Karl. Thanks for the heads-up on kildea. It's a life changing event, the Targa. We went through serious withdrawals after this years event, even though we found the Grand Touring class to be fairly boring in the M5. I CANNOT wait to go back. I have a video on Youtube (search for "M5 brigus"), onboard during the last stage. Apparently a semi-famous driver had won it a few times in a 142 several years ago, he and his daughter IIRC.

And thanks for the vacuum source info...do they go bad at all, or can I just leave that one in place?
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How are you getting the car over there?
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Love the color! Looks like you'll have quite the car! Should the color code 200 group ;) http://forums.turbobricks.com/group.php?groupid=79
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Great to know, Karl. Thanks for the heads-up on kildea. It's a life changing event, the Targa. We went through serious withdrawals after this years event, even though we found the Grand Touring class to be fairly boring in the M5. I CANNOT wait to go back. I have a video on Youtube (search for "M5 brigus"), onboard during the last stage. Apparently a semi-famous driver had won it a few times in a 142 several years ago, he and his daughter IIRC.

And thanks for the vacuum source info...do they go bad at all, or can I just leave that one in place?
I think the lad with the 142 would be Doug Mepham (?). He ran (and won?) in the Targa Tasmania too and I think he was involved in organizing the first Targa Newfoundlands.
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That's him, John. He was co-driver in a Targa car this year, but I can't recall what team it was. Didn't have much of a chance to speak with him.

As for getting it there, it will be shipped. I drove last year, 2.5 days to get there (via ferry w/delay) and 1.5 days coming back. Not again.
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Awesome. I'm way jealous.
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Old 01-02-2011, 03:59 AM   #21
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subscribed this is something that ive always wanted to do i really enjoy auto cross and going to start rally x shortly but id like to get into something like targa newfoundland

anyhow good luck with your build i do have to say im jelous this looks like it will be a good fun car.
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That's him, John. He was co-driver in a Targa car this year, but I can't recall what team it was. Didn't have much of a chance to speak with him.

As for getting it there, it will be shipped. I drove last year, 2.5 days to get there (via ferry w/delay) and 1.5 days coming back. Not again.
Did you meet any members of my club (the Motorsport Club of Ottawa) there last year, in particular Martin Walter and Ferd Troutmandorff in the Nissan 240 SX? They're a good example of what can be achieved on a very sparse budget. Also, did you get to meet the two wounded Afghan vets (also MCO members) in the Soldier On team? 1st in class in their first attempt, and neither of 'em with both legs ... a great example of perseverance.

Anyway, good luck with your efforts and now I have another team to cheer for at the next Targa Newfie.
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I did meet the 240SX team, very nice guys. They were huge fans of the M5 actually. I met the Soldier On guys as well. They were a bit overwhelmed by all the publicity and didn't gel with the rest of the competitors until much later in the week, but they were hounded by press most of the time. What's amazing is the car was barely prepped, aside from the roll cage and the driver's aids for their handicap. They kept roasting their stock brakes. We also ran with the Trailer Park Boys, Trembley and Wells. They were awesome. Shared some drinks and actually had them laughing, which was pretty cool.

All in all, it was simply amazing.
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Sounds very interesting project!

Keep up posted with updates and results

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yea but paint it blue and yeller
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