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Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: mesa
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![]() So ive asked around and tlao is not seeing enough intrest in 2.2 and fred is no more here?
I want something more, id like to chip my 541 and ezk if i can and or reflash them i guess. I read some ignition mods from stonisworld i think about connecting pins 18,19,&20 in different sequences will increase or retard timing at part load? Last resort i think. I read about making the ezk chippable also, but i find no resources for purchasing such a kit. Thanks! |
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Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Under the hood...
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![]() Try BSR Tuning.se, they are one chip for LH2.2, if I remember right...
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Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: mesa
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![]() i cheched them out and sent inquiry. About $215 for stage 1 good for 240hp. seems people here re making that without chips. read sme about them on other forums and most seem skeptical, didnt find anyone with the chip installed.
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Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Under the hood...
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![]() In my car, with my butt dyno, the BSR chip is really powerfull... They say +55hp in a stock B230FT, except the boost pressure increased to 0.95bar.
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Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Zeg ik niet
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______ BSR can´t provide a chip (at least not send one out) for LH2.2. The chip you are talking about is for the Motronic ML1.1 cars with the B230FT and B230ET. ECU numbers ending with 012, 022 and 026. That chip will give 240HP (or at least they advertise it) with the right setup. ______ So since your ecu is ...541, you need to get out your soldering machine or buy a 591 ecu as i did.. ![]() |
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Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: mesa
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![]() I would have no problem soldering my own googies. Avilability is my current issue. Id like the EZk chipped too, which would require some work, but still I find no resource for purchase.
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![]() Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Rushing Lane, Scappoose, OR
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![]() I have a lh2.2 turbo fuel chip. It provides more fuel so you can run more boost for more power. Now the hard part is finding a chippable Fuel computer. Otherwise you have to add the socket and resistors and the switching chip and a couple caps and jumpers to the ECU board. Now for the lh2.2 turbo EZK you need the older non Motorola EZK. It's a 012 ezk that has two boards in it, not the motorola 012 that is just one board. For tuning and chipping the 012 EZK you need a chip programmer that does 40 pin chips like the new 100 dollar wilhem you can buy on ebay. There is a thread here where I posted pics of the ezk that is chippable. The ezk chip is also the CPU on the 012 that also has some memory and that is what you reprogram. So you'll need to buy blank chips of course.
Simon
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Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: London, Ontario
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![]() Sorry for the thread-jack, but I'm going to be running an iPd turbo cam and just a stock T3 at a mild 10psi with 3" exhaust, any need for chipping at that boost level? I always run 94 octane, I would assume not.
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Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: mesa
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Is this 2.2 chip you speak of for sale? Ill double check my ezk tomorrow to see if it one or two boards. And even at 100 off ebay this still means i need someone to assist in the programming. Bueller...Bueller...anyone? |
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![]() Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Dallas
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![]() megasquirt dude! don't even mess with the stock stuff!
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#11 |
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Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: mesa
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![]() Thinkiing so. I wanted to wait a while. I guess its gonna be the ticket!
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Just that good
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Ramona, Bro-Cal
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![]() Stock LH2.4 > chipped LH2.2
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Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: The STL
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Installing a custom EMS>taking the time to "swap" LH2.2 to LH2.4...
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Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Zeg ik niet
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#15 |
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Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Milton, Florida
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![]() I have interest in this. must have chip.
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All idiot, no savant
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: The Netherlands, Europe
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![]() if the stock stuff cuts it, why spend money on MS? I agree that LH 2.2 isnt the greatest system though and has limited (diy) tuning options. More directed at ditching LH 2.4.
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![]() Join Date: May 2004
Location: PNW
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![]() But, if you are in a race class that doesn't allow any stand alone ecu's, and you have to tune the stock ecu you'll need options like this.
Otherwise, if you are looking to "chip" your RWD volvo for more powah before doing the mods that get you dirty, these cars aren't for you. ![]() LOL. I love these things. *cough* kill *cough* Loooooove these cars. I will say I've heard good things about Simons chips, even if he thinks he is going to beat me in the 1/4mile. ![]() ![]() If you are going to chip your 2.2 send Simon a PM and get 'er done.
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how hard can it be?
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Southern MD
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![]() LH2.4 is easy to tune, so long as you have a chippable EZK and are willing to play with it a bit.
0. Get a wideband 1. Buy this (moates.net ostrich) 2. Download this (TunerPro RT) 3. Download bins and defs for your ECU version 4. Install Ostrich, connect USB, select correct bin/xdf for your ECU and start tuning Some of the XDFs aren't quite polished yet; and I am currently awaiting the next version of this awesome program. The only thing lacking right now is datalogging of engine parameters for offline tuning. If you have one of the newer 14point7 kits this may not be an issue as I believe they can datalog RPM, CLT, IAT, etc. I like my LC1 but wish I'd bough one of those. I think ideally you would log RPM, CLT, WB02 and MAF voltage. Probably should monitor MAP as well. I've been playing with it on my car and it's seems pretty capable. All I really need now is someone to ride shotgun so I don't kill mysef. I don't claim credit to any of this by the way; I've just been lurking over at ECUProject. Alternately, if you don't want to mess with any of this crap (and have LH2.4), get a chip from TLOA. They rock.
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All idiot, no savant
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: The Netherlands, Europe
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Dont forget winOLS, also a great program and it shows you what is different between bins for example. |
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#20 |
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Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: mesa
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![]() I just swapped lh2.2!!!!!! The supposed lh2.0(or 2.1 as im lead to believe i had from some odd half year changes) was poo. 2.2 swapping was the easy alternative. cost me $300 for all my +t, 2.2, ezk swappage. Didnt think i could beat that. Still, may sit on what it is and weigh the options rom now till.......i build an engine that needs power/requires this black magic??
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how hard can it be?
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Southern MD
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![]() I've been using Hex Workshop; it has a fairly versatile compare. Never heard of WinOLS, and downloading right now. Thanks!
ltrail, I don't know how difficult it would be to go from 2.2 -> 2.4, but if you have already done a 2.0 -> 2.2 it may be worth looking into 2.4. If you do go LH2.4, get a 9xx series ECU. They have twice the CPU speed and just seem more reliable (I have two dead 56x series at home; both spontaneously quit for no reason, ugh) I'm sure someone has documented a 2.2 -> 2.4 swap; how involved is it? |
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Turbo, what?
Join Date: May 2004
Location: OR
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SWEETNESS! I can definitely not wait for the next version of his software. I still need to get an Ostrich 2.0 too, so I can see exactly where I am on the maps. A friend to ride along is definitely also needed. ![]()
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Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Acushnet, Massachusetts
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Turbo, what?
Join Date: May 2004
Location: OR
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![]() You use the Ostrich to come up with your tune, then burn it to a chip once you're happy with it and put the chip in the Ostrich's place. That being said, it takes a while for LH to learn all the way on most setups, so how something is right out of the box with a tune may not be the same as it will be after a few tanks of gas. We'll see what this newest software brings to the table in showing what the car will try to tune to, from those main original maps. While using the Ostrich you can trace where in the map the car is at all times. How many maps you're able to track it on, I don't know, but the future is coming and I know you can already trace it on the main fuel map...
Another capability though is the ability to turn Lambda correction off, so it'll just run off the main maps. Basically, super cool stuff is on the way, with some of it already available to people. |
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Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Acushnet, Massachusetts
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![]() you can use the ostrich to play with both fuel and spark? Would you use ostrich to tune your fuel map, then switch it over to the ezk to tune spark as we have separate computers for each?
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