Official East v West 2012 Thread

[thelostartof]

The 2012 East vs. West Competition

• Time Submission Instructions
• Currently Pending Submissions

This is the first year I'm handling it, and really the first time I've been involved as more than an observer, so any suggestions or criticisms are welcome. Here's the rundown:


Rules: (nicked from http://www.turbobricks.com/evw.php)
Summary
The "east vs. west" shootout was created by Pat D. (tuff240) to help motivate the group by creating a friendly yet competitive event we could all participate from our home towns. The goal is to lay down
the fastest time you can and earn points for your side spending the time you have improving your times and power output to hopefully grab the bragging rights for the following year.
So far the results have been:

2011 - East
2010 - West ( I know broken board but at the time West was way ahead and East lacked submissions)
2009 - West
2008 - West
2007 - East
2006 - West
2005 - East
2004 - West
2003 - East

2011 Thread
2010 Thread
2009 Thread
2008 Thread
2007 Thread
2006 Thread
2005 Thread
2004 Thread
2003 Thread

How The Competition Works:
Turbobricks members from each side (East Coast, West Coast, or International) visit a track throughout the course of the year, record their fastest 1/4 mile time and submit it to the contest admin. The idea is to work on your cars performance
throughout the year returning to the track, grabbing more points, and updating your time.
The points scheme is laid out to provide a much larger spread than in the previous years. It should be more motivating, making even a weekend of minor modifications rewarding at the track as well as for
your team.
Each side is divided up into 3 classes of cars, Turbocharged, Normally Aspirated, or "Hybrid" - a non-Volvo powered Volvo. Essentially there are now 3 competitions running simultaneously per side. Each class is equally important since the final victory in that class holds 1/3
of your sides total wins.
At the end of each year all the points are tallied up for a final count in each vehicle class. The side with the majority of class wins is declared victorious and thus has the bragging rights for the next year.

The Split:
Please verify the side you are grouped in by state. The states are grouped as evenly as possible by member representation. The west gets Hawaii, the east gets Puerto Rico. If we have forgotten or over
looked any other represented US, Canadian, or Mexican governed land masses please let us know so we can assign it a side.

Countries outside of North America will run as a third category.

Rules for Competitors:

• Be mature, no cheating/bending rules, and no complaining. This is for fun. If you cheat, you're out.


• Your time submission must include a photograph or video of your car and the score board reading your time (we can spot photoshop jobs). A time slip scan and fellow member verification can be used if
  approved.


• Any runs made must be in the current year.


• 1 registered run per vehicle per class. 1 turbo, 1 n/a, 1 non-Volvo - Per Person


• If a vehicle is sold to either side, points remain until new owner beats the standing entry and the previous time and points are removed.


• If a Driver moves sides, points remain until driver runs at new location and previous points are removed.


• If a vehicle changes classes within the year, only the current class will be registered.


• If a driver is disqualified from the competition, their time will remain however carry no point value for the side.


• All runs must be made at an official timed 1/4 mile drag strip. Estimates from 1/8th mile tracks, self timing, or non sanctioned timing devices are not allowed.

How to Submit a Time
Submitting a time is as simple as dropping me a PM. Posting in this thread will not guarantee that I'll see your post, so it is not a guarantee of time submission - just use a PM. If my PM box is full,
drop me a line on AIM and I'll clean it out.
I will need the following things from you for a verified submission:

• Board Username


• Car Model


• Brief (A paragraph or two) Description of your Vehicle


• Location (East, West, or International) and Class (Turbo, N/A, or Hybrid)


• A Scan of your timeslip, for verification purposes. Either circle your number on the slip, or (better!) include a photo of the car with the numbers on it.

When I get your PM, if I don't have enough time at that moment to submit it to the , it will go to the pending submissions list below.
Submissions will be run through on a first come, first serve basis.



Let's see some times!



This is just a copy and paste from five years ago... Rules stay the same, as does the Game



Mods Can I get a sticky and Please un-stick the 2010/2011.

Leader board this year will be a simple excel that I will update and post capture of to keep track. Rough but works until Adrian gets his pimp board working again.

[thelostartof]

[badvlvo]

Just to clarify, an owner of multiple cars can gain points for his/her side for each car?

[thelostartof]

One entry Per side, that was the rules then and still is now IIRC. We might be able to start offering some kind of exception like it has to be different drive wheels. but we can always talk it out.

One time Per class . . . so turbo / n/a

[badvlvo]

1 registered run per vehicle per class. 1 turbo, 1 n/a, 1 non-Volvo

Should add "per person" to the rules.

[thelostartof]

Done

[badvlvo]

Good call there.

[linuxman51]

Originally Posted by thelostartof

One entry Per side, that was the rules then and still is now IIRC. We might be able to start offering some kind of exception like it has to be different drive wheels. but we can always talk it out.

One time Per class . . . so turbo / n/a

I don't see why this is really required anymore. and I understand that *me* saying this probably doesn't add anything to my side of the argument-BUT.. if you've got a couple of cars I fail to see why we can't change the rule (esp since it's early into this season). It's a bit of a slippery slope but at the same time there are several regulars who have more than one turbo volvo (or more than one NA volvo). The concern used to be (And I guess sort of still is) that people would shuffle their setup across multiple vehicles and have like 20 submissions, this isn't really as huge a concern as someone who buys and sells a lot of cars making single passes... how about we amend it like this:

You have to still own the car at the end of the season (exceptions being it got wrecked/totaled and you didn't swap the powertrain into another vehicle. I.E. I pile the gold car into the wall on the 5th pass this year, and swap all that stuff into another shell real fast- can't count both) - Basically a separate projects/frequent seller type of rule. I don't think we'll see a massive uptick in submissions and looking around I don't really see it favoring either coast, and it potentially gets more people or cars out there.

Incidentally I still think nitrous should be allowed in the NA class too, but I'll let Pat lead the discussion there since I caused that rule change

[Coupe' de Grace]

contest closed at year end, no more of this late entry/babysitting horse ****
no stunt drivers, your screen name = your car = your time slip

[klr142]

w00w00, track opens next month! If the rain stays away, anyway.

Originally Posted by linuxman51

I don't see why this is really required anymore. and I understand that *me* saying this probably doesn't add anything to my side of the argument-BUT.. if you've got a couple of cars I fail to see why we can't change the rule (esp since it's early into this season). It's a bit of a slippery slope but at the same time there are several regulars who have more than one turbo volvo (or more than one NA volvo). The concern used to be (And I guess sort of still is) that people would shuffle their setup across multiple vehicles and have like 20 submissions, this isn't really as huge a concern as someone who buys and sells a lot of cars making single passes... how about we amend it like this:

You have to still own the car at the end of the season (exceptions being it got wrecked/totaled and you didn't swap the powertrain into another vehicle. I.E. I pile the gold car into the wall on the 5th pass this year, and swap all that stuff into another shell real fast- can't count both) - Basically a separate projects/frequent seller type of rule. I don't think we'll see a massive uptick in submissions and looking around I don't really see it favoring either coast, and it potentially gets more people or cars out there.

Incidentally I still think nitrous should be allowed in the NA class too, but I'll let Pat lead the discussion there since I caused that rule change

Fair enough. Except the nitrous part. Nitrous is not natural. It is forced induction. You forcefully inject more oxygen into the intake stream.

Even with him not being "naturally aspirated", I am faster.

Originally Posted by Coupe' de Grace

contest closed at year end, no more of this late entry/babysitting horse ****
no stunt drivers, your screen name = your car = your time slip

= your drive down the pass/not your friend driving your car down the strip? Meh, we're trying to find/make these cars faster. I don't really care who drives the car. If you aren't the fastest driver out there, oh wells, no harm done. ?

[RoadRacer4Life]

the car ran a 13.3 on pump gas and street tires but that was the only pass before I started to turn it up.. Still left alot on the table with the tune..
C16 fuel
18psi boost
125hp? shot of spray .048 no2 jet
8 year old MT ETdrags that kenny's car went 10.4's on..

I was happy with the way the car ran for the most part.. Sill need some more power on the top end but its not too bad..



here is the 12.2 pass from outside..


and the last 3 passes in car.. 12.5 12.2 and 12.1



-Sam

[thelostartof]

Yes I am still alive, I will try to keep this thing updated as I can.

I have 3 names/times on the list I just need to add the points and upload it . . maybe I will do it this weekend.

And Damn you that find time to make your cars run. I miss the track so bad. . . must finish trans swap(or well at least start it)

[harribert]

Ben Weaver, Eric Mollerstuen, Nathan Kahler, and the Canadians still need to post their times.

[vbjlittleton]

Bandimere Speedway 6-10-2012

t3/t4 turbo
Slicks
50 shot in 3rd and 4th gear
t5z manual with 3.73 gears



[IMG][/IMG]

http://youtu.be/HNX0LvzL9LM

[MrBill]

I went to the test and tune today at MIR. There were no lines. Max time waiting between sessions (no time, motorcycles, etc) was like five minutes.

I got a little over 20 runs - best run was 12.838@109..94
The tires are 205/50/16 toyo proxies (lolz) with a truetrack - best 60ft of the day was a 1.9, but the best run was a 2.055.

[klr142]

NICE WORK! Good 60' times on crap tires, too. Sweet deal, good job Bill.

[MrBill]

Thanks - it's too bad someone like Rob Prince wasn't there so it could run like a 12.0

[500dollar744ti]

haha yeah, sometimes it would be nice to have motortrend do your 1/4 mile run.

awesome time though!

[940guy]

wish it was 1/4 mile but thats 15mph faster than my old best :D

[940guy]

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[thelostartof]

nice time, low 12's for sure with that high of a trap speed. What is the full setup again? 16vT?

[940guy]

yup nathan intake b230f bottom end with H beams and turbo pistons running a 50/50 mix of e85 and 93 and still have the holset.

[harribert]

Proof:

[poulrais]

I'll tell Roger-Dee to get his times in here. Think he ran a 7,5 1/8 and a 12,2 1/4 @ 122 mph so it would put him in first or second position? I too should be able to get good numbers if I can get my new injectors in time and tune this before race season is over...

Problem is, our local 1/8 track do not print the slips...

[linuxman51]

****, guess I'll have to toss the drivetrain back in goldie for a trip down the 1320