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Old 04-15-2012, 11:11 AM   #51
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If your vin # looks like this [forget the YV1... stuff] BD00899,your car is an 81 coupe.Where B=model year 81 and D = country made,Italy.The wheels on your car more than likely and absent an original window sticker came later.
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Old 04-15-2012, 11:36 AM   #52
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hey testpoint, when you dig into getting the car running, i have all the fuel delivery stuff for a b28f since i'm transplanting a d24t into mine. i'll send you whatever you need, for a pittance. the motor was running when i pulled it, with good compression all the way around. it was the POS aw55 that took a dump.
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Old 04-15-2012, 01:05 PM   #53
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pgringo,

Thanks! Stand by!

Got a good battery to play with will spend the afternoon seeing what happens.

Wish I had spent more time trying to find a home for my D24 engine out of my 245 wagon before sending it to the scrap yard. No one seemed to want anything and I was going to deliver for the shipping cost.

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Old 04-15-2012, 01:56 PM   #54
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Wish I had spent more time trying to find a home for my D24 engine out of my 245 wagon before sending it to the scrap yard. No one seemed to want anything and I was going to deliver for the shipping cost.
Same way I feel about the B28F. I can't help but wonder if some of the PRV fans have tips and tricks to keep them running?
If it does die (after you've become attached) will it be another 5.0 swap? LS? or find a donor 960? Back to the basics. 1st things 1st. LOL
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Old 04-15-2012, 02:19 PM   #55
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Current thought is to restore the Bertone as original. Just had the first setback . . . need a battery, a VOLVO blue labeled battery. Bet that may be at a premium above Advance AP with their 20% off on-line code.

Haven't thought about another swap. Still a few days away from getting the wagon running.
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Old 04-15-2012, 04:10 PM   #56
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Before you go spending primo money on a volvo battery make sure everything else is working fine.The battery is the least thing to worry about in your restoration
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Old 04-15-2012, 04:53 PM   #57
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Just stole the battery out of the golf cart. 'Economy' brand.

Removed spark plugs and they had been changed but were black with soot. Pulled the fuel pump fuses. Shot 3cc of ATF into each cylinder and spun the starter for several minutes, 20 seconds at a time over 30 minutes. Buttoned it all back up and shot starter fluid under the throttle plate.

Started right up!

Tries to run but obviously has a fuel problem. Guess I should put a few gallons in the tank just to be sure. I have a used fuel distributor that was purchased by the mechanic but not installed. Could be the fuel pump relay also. After I verify that fuel is getting to the distributor and still no start guess it is time to change it.

Tomorrow . . . tomorrow . . . .
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Old 04-15-2012, 08:52 PM   #58
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How old is that fuel Tom? Until/unless you get some fresh fuel in it, don't jump to too many conclusions. I'd put a filter in it - fresh fuel and see what you get then.
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Old 04-15-2012, 09:18 PM   #59
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I thought I would jumper the pumps to pump what little fuel is in the tank out of the car and put in 5 gals of fresh gas. It does have a new filter.

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Old 04-15-2012, 09:52 PM   #60
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Vivid memories of a buddy chasing the tune on his Weber carbed vintage MG Midget racer all over creation in the cold at Watkins Glen -- only to discover after tearing apart carb and ignition that the 'problem' was old fuel in the cell. I doubt you'll get that lucky -- but at least you'll remove that variable.
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Old 04-16-2012, 03:40 AM   #61
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Thanks! Stand by!

Got a good battery to play with will spend the afternoon seeing what happens.

Wish I had spent more time trying to find a home for my D24 engine out of my 245 wagon before sending it to the scrap yard. No one seemed to want anything and I was going to deliver for the shipping cost.
Are you the one with the blown head gasket who gave up & junked the car?
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Old 04-16-2012, 03:47 AM   #62
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Not me.

I replaced the head due to a broken cam belt at 130k miles then got another 50k out of it.

My D24 decided it didn't want to start at 180k miles. Transmission was already dying. Put it in storage for 16 years before starting the Ford V8 swap. May get that started this week. Waiting on a fuel pressure regulator.

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Old 04-16-2012, 04:18 AM   #63
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Wish I had spent more time trying to find a home for my D24 engine out of my 245 wagon before sending it to the scrap yard. No one seemed to want anything and I was going to deliver for the shipping cost.
D24? Ellijay? Georgia?
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Old 04-16-2012, 07:04 AM   #64
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D24 gone to the recycle yard 2 years ago

There's another Ellijay?
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Old 04-16-2012, 08:03 PM   #65
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Got out this afternoon chasing the fuel problem. When I started the pumps were not pumping, the fuel pump relay was not operating. ALL the fuses in the kick panel were corroded. Power to the black connector block in the engine bay but not to the relay. Cleaned the fuses and holders for #5, #7 and #13 and now the relay operates when the ignition switch is moved to start position and provides power on yellow/red wires to the pumps. Ran a temp hose from the fuel filter gas line to a gas can and pumped the tank dry. Not much there.

Put 5 gal of fresh gas in. Pumped a gallon through the system by jumpering the pumps on fuses #5 and #7 and I now know that the pump relay works.

Previous mechanic told me that he had spent $270 on a fuel injector distributor rebuild kit and installed it. At that point he had fuel to the CI distributor but that the distributor leaked. Now that I had fuel there also I took a couple of the hose connections apart. There was only one copper crush washer on the banjo connectors. No wonder it leaked. Went to NAPA for washers and then got rained out.

. . . to be continued.

I think this thing is going to start!
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Old 04-16-2012, 08:32 PM   #66
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Old 04-16-2012, 08:36 PM   #67
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it probably will start.
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Old 04-16-2012, 10:01 PM   #68
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the bertone had a super special undersize expanding spare tire. you may notice the rear doesn't have a butt cheek on either side of the back end. the gt's were also sans butt cheek.
My '81 Bertone VIN ends in 8737 and my car has no butt cheeks and the undersized spare with compressor.
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Old 04-16-2012, 10:23 PM   #69
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No cheek on the 80. VC26269AD008279

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Old 04-17-2012, 06:33 PM   #70
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Spent an entertaining couple of hours working on the fuel delivery problem. The fuel distributor is leaking probably from the amateur installation of the rebuild kit. Pulled it off and thought there were copper crush washers missing from the banjo connections but the guy that installed it put both washers on one side of the banjo. That solved some of the leaks but not all. It is leaking from between the two halves of the body.

The car tries to start, sputters, spins up but never can seem to get going. Runs well on starter fluid.

Searching for a distributor.
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Wish I still had mine so I could send it to you. I tried to sell my rebuilt B28F for months at $100 and got zero interest. Ended up selling the fuel distributor for $50 and scrapping the rest.
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Wish I still had mine so I could send it to you. I tried to sell my rebuilt B28F for months at $100 and got zero interest. Ended up selling the fuel distributor for $50 and scrapping the rest.
I'm feeling guilty about tossing a running (not for long-milkshake) B28F in the scrap pile.
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Old 04-17-2012, 08:02 PM   #73
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Put a carb on it.
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Old 04-17-2012, 08:04 PM   #74
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. . . when I could have had a V8? . . . with injection?

Anyone else out there got a PRV sitting in a corner of the garage? Bosch part number is 0 438 100 076. Used in '80 - '82 B28F engines.

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Old 04-17-2012, 08:10 PM   #75
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You may need to create a separate post asking for the part...
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