240: 1991 240 Remanned CarDone Power Steering Pump

[smokeyfan1000]

Looking for new P/S pump for my 1991 240. yep the one with pump mounted reservoir/all in one P/S pump.
While an OEM Volvo pump would be best quality(if not NLA) I was wondering......
Anyone had success with a remanned CarDone P/S pump on a 91 240? Are there better remanned ones? Is there any company making them NEW?
If so, where?

[vlvman]

That is a saginaw pump. They where used on Mopar products for years. You might check a dealership or maybe Year One.

[smokeyfan1000]

The 91 is a Saginaw pump? thought that was the older 78-85 pump?

[kampman]

The later pump definitely isn't the same as the Saginaw unit. I can't comment as to the quality of the rebuild, but I have an A1 Cardone axle in my 850 and haven't had any issues with it.

[smokeyfan1000]

IINM this P/S pump was used only one(maybe 2?) year of 240 production. That year being 1991 240 Pic below...

[smokeyfan1000]

So... everybody else's 1991 240 still has the OEM Volvo P/S pump on it heh?

[smokeyfan1000]

No one?

[TrickMick]

Originally Posted by smokeyfan1000

So... everybody else's 1991 240 still has the OEM Volvo P/S pump on it heh?

here @ the gearhead ranch:
2 X 1991 244 original pumps (both over 210K miles
1 X 1993 245 original pump (over 240k miles)

[smokeyfan1000]

well mine seems to be making an intermittant knocking sound & making the P/S belt work harder too. At 191,XXX miles too.

Guess I'll have to be the TB Guinea Pig, and try a remanned CarDone one.

[TrickMick]

Originally Posted by smokeyfan1000

well mine seems to be making an intermittant knocking sound & making the P/S belt work harder too. At 191,XXX miles too.

Guess I'll have to be the TB Guinea Pig, and try a remanned CarDone one.

http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/rafr...146046-7854623

there are SEVERAL "seal kits" listed all less than $25 USFRN....
I'd try one of those FIRST (assuming that the drive shaft isn't
wobbling around like a dick in a shirt sleeve)...

[swiggy]

I'm interested to see what you make of the rebuilt unit. I need a P/S pump (for a much older car though) and I've been looking with interest at rock autos prices, I don't usually trust parts that seem too cheap though.

[Wren]

Originally Posted by smokeyfan1000

Guess I'll have to be the TB Guinea Pig, and try a remanned CarDone one.

I've heard a lot of bad things about Cardone reman parts and had a 240 that had a steering rack that was a total POS Cardone unit.

Why not just get one from a junker?

Originally Posted by TrickMick

(assuming that the drive shaft isn't
wobbling around like a dick in a shirt sleeve)...

[icebrick]

Originally Posted by smokeyfan1000

So... everybody else's 1991 240 still has the OEM Volvo P/S pump on it heh?

Changed mine out at 190K km and switched to a remote reservoir. ( an ebay used pump).
That failed in time, back to a used single piece original.

[fidel]

hey smokey,
the later pump you are looking for is a saginaw TC model, the early one with the metal resivor is a saginaw P series.

i would recomend pulling the flow valve and cleaning the screens in the pressure relife valve before replacing the pump.

i can get the maval rebuilt pumps for a good price if you need one.

[smokeyfan1000]

Why not just get one from a junker?

Not much to choose fro in local JY for 91 240 that isn't already gone. Might have to look though

[Coupe' de Grace]

and summit sells brand new saginaw TC for less than a c note

[fidel]

Originally Posted by Coupe' de Grace

and summit sells brand new saginaw TC for less than a c note

just have to make sure the pressure relife valve is set to the same pressure and swap the flow valve to the volvo one.

[smokeyfan1000]

Originally Posted by Coupe' de Grace

and summit sells brand new saginaw TC for less than a c note

i'll check into that.Thanks.

[Coupe' de Grace]

Originally Posted by fidel

just have to make sure the pressure relife valve is set to the same pressure and swap the flow valve to the volvo one.

i have a remote reservoir but the same type pump, working beautifully in the 780

all i did was select the right thread size from the list, something like 16mm IIRC

[smokeyfan1000]

Originally Posted by fidel

hey smokey,
the later pump you are looking for is a saginaw TC model, the early one with the metal resivor is a saginaw P series.

i would recomend pulling the flow valve and cleaning the screens in the pressure relife valve before replacing the pump.

i can get the maval rebuilt pumps for a good price if you need one.

Which remanned would be better in your opinion Fidel? Maval or CarDone? And do either remanned ones come with a brand new reservoir instead of the old one?

[fidel]

Originally Posted by smokeyfan1000

Which remanned would be better in your opinion Fidel? Maval or CarDone? And do either remanned ones come with a brand new reservoir instead of the old one?

cardone < mavel < jac(hard to find) < new. none of them will come with a new resivior, that will be a dealer item.

[TrickMick]

Originally Posted by fidel

cardone < mavel < jac(hard to find) < new. none of them will come with a new resivior, that will be a dealer item.

just leaving the shop for the night...quick look @ our "CarQuest web.."
shows * 2 * pumps listed (both remmaned) ONE comes *WITH* the reservoir
and the other is *naked*....hmmmm

[smokeyfan1000]

Cardone shows one "nekked" and one with reservoir. but unsure if reservoir is a new or a used reservoir. I suspect it's a used one?

I may call dealership tomorrow & price a new P/S pump if it is not NLA. I'm figuring @200 bux for OEM one.

[smokeyfan1000]

Maval's has NO reserv. & has 12 month, 12,000 mile warranty for @ 110.00. cardone, comes with reserv., & has 3 year, 36,000 mile warranty for @70 bux

http://www.carparts.com/details/Volv...donea120476041

[TrickMick]

Originally Posted by smokeyfan1000

Maval's has NO reserv. & has 12 month, 12,000 mile warranty for @ 110.00. cardone, comes with reserv., & has 3 year, 36,000 mile warranty for @70 bux

http://www.carparts.com/details/Volv...donea120476041

hokay....the CarQuest item (with reservoir) co$t$ me $80 USFRN (retail buk & a half) and is
listed as "PSC" on the TOP line of the description ( which I normally read as "Power
Steering CARDONE"- but the SECOND line lists it s "TIC Pumps" which is some larger
reman outfit....)

http://www.autopartsway.com/Part.cfm?W0133-1680286/MAV (lists a veritable SHlTLOAD
of *JEEPS* that the pump fits...hmmmmm).....MAVAL!.....

http://www.volvopartswebstore.com/sh...=0&modelYear=0

I'll wait while you see the price and then crap yer shorts.....

*if* it's on the website..it *should STILL be available*....I'd try a SEAL KIT for less than
$10 USFRN before I'd pay out THAT amount of DO$H!