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Old 11-11-2012, 12:44 AM   #1
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Well, I figured it's time to start a project thread for my 244. The car is a 1982 244 GLE Diesel. The diesel engine is out and will be replaced with the new B23 from my 242 and a T5Z transmission. So far I've been doing tons of wiring cleanup to prepare the car for a trunk mounted battery and MS2.

My stage one goals are to break 300whp, and shake all of the bugs out of the car before moving onto my "Stage Two" build which will be the compound turbo system I built. I'm getting excited to finally get some parts going into the chassis.

I ordered an EMUSA GT3582 turbo, and an EMUSA 38mm WG for the stage one, and got turbo header tacked together for it today. I also bought a big FMIC from "ZVOLV", so as soon as that shows up I'll get some IC tubes routed and welded up. I would really like to get this car fired by XMAS this year. It may be an optimistic goal, but I'm gonna give it hell and see what happens.

I hope you all enjoy the show, I'll update this thread as the car starts coming together.

Here are a few pics of the car and today's progress. VVV

















I'll get the WG and DP plumbed in next week when I get a little more time to put into the car.
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Old 11-11-2012, 02:23 AM   #2
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loved the manifold i got from you..... this should be fun. glad to hear your keeping the compoundsetup. even after that new douche mod locked your thread
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Old 11-11-2012, 02:49 AM   #3
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loved the manifold i got from you..... this should be fun. glad to hear your keeping the compoundsetup. even after that new douche mod locked your thread
Haha, I took it back to the basics for this build, it's basically my "Affordable header" with the collector opened up a bit and re-positioned to better fit the new turbo. It's probably best that the thread got locked, folks were starting to troll in true TB fashion. Are you gonna run the 60-2 flywheel for a trigger wheel with MS?
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Old 11-11-2012, 02:35 PM   #4
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yep im running a lh2.4 flywheel and a kia crank sensor. it works really good!
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link to the turbo?
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Old 11-11-2012, 06:10 PM   #6
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link to the turbo?
Are you running on ms2 right now? On E85?

Here's the link to the turbo: http://www.ebay.com/itm/GT35-TURBO-G...sories&vxp=mtr

A customer of mine came in with his Civic with a H22 swap and one of these turbos on it running Hondata and E85, it made 529whp on a Dynojet @29PSI. The turbo may be a little large on the exhaust side making it laggy, but I think it'll still be fun.
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Old 11-11-2012, 07:14 PM   #7
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0_0 29 psi on an H22? Holy balls those are some srs bsns internals he's running. I know a guy running 4psi on a stock one
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the car was running on ms2 till i pulled the head off haha. im on pump gas because there is no e85 down here :(
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Old 11-14-2012, 01:43 PM   #9
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0_0 29 psi on an H22? Holy balls those are some srs bsns internals he's running. I know a guy running 4psi on a stock one
Yeah, he said it was assembled with everything good, studded and sleeved. It was by far the nastiest street Honda I've ever seen. He said the car weighs 2350lbs with him in it, and he was a big dude.

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the car was running on ms2 till i pulled the head off haha. im on pump gas because there is no e85 down here :(
Bummer on the E85, I am glad to hear it was running on MS2 though, only because now that Asher is up north I'll need to pick someone's brain with a similar setup to mine more locally.

On a side note: I bought an AEM 320LPH in-tank yesterday along with various weld-on AN fittings, oil restrictor, oil feed line, etc...

Here's the link to the pump VVV

http://www.aemelectronics.com/high-f...fuel-pump-101/

It seems like a badass little pump for a hundred bucks, it says it may not like E85, but it'll have to get over that.
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i will be running watermeth so timing wise we may be close to the same since with both have pretty high compression motors
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Old 11-15-2012, 12:24 AM   #11
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i will be running watermeth so timing wise we may be close to the same since with both have pretty high compression motors
I was thinking about running water/Meth down the road too. I'm gonna start tuning on 91 octane, 850T injectors, and 14psi. I want to get a nice safe gas tune for the car to start off, then I'll get more aggressive later with larger injectors and some corn fuel.
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those 850 injectors suck dude lol
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Old 11-15-2012, 09:56 PM   #13
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Yeah, I'm not sure if I will use them or not yet. They were a freebie off of a parts car we bought for the shop, so I figured I'd snag 'em. They'll at least get the car to start, which will motivate me to keep throwing money at it.
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Old 11-18-2012, 12:46 AM   #14
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Well, I am almost done on the exhaust side of things. I decided to TIG weld it all for the neat factor, but it's really kickin' my ass. I almost got all of the welding done, still need to finish the welds on the exhaust flange to primary tubes. I also have to install an O2 bung for my wideband sensor, weld up the DP, and make a recirc tube from the WG to the DP. My fuel pump will be showing up soon along with a few fittings for the oil feed line.

Here are a few pictures of recent progress.


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Need to do a little cleaning up in the merge with the die grinder still

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Old 11-18-2012, 05:18 AM   #15
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Wow, beautiful work. That manifold is stunning all by itself. Looking forward to seeing this project come along.
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Old 11-18-2012, 08:07 PM   #16
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Wow, beautiful work. That manifold is stunning all by itself. Looking forward to seeing this project come along.
Thanks.

Here's the rest of my progress for the weekend. It's all welded up now. I wasn't able to get to the oil drain, but that will be easy. I TIG welded everything and I'm very happy with how it came out.




Recirc tube clearance is great.


DP all finished


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Old 11-20-2012, 06:43 PM   #17
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Okay, well the header is finally completely done. I de-burred all of the sharp corners on the inside of the merge collector, and blended all of the corners of the square flange to the round primary tubes. Then I sand blasted, and painted it BLUE!!! Overall, I really dig the look of it all. Here are a couple pics to hold y'all over. Plans for this weekend are: finish my intake manifold, run oil feed and drain (Hoping all of my fitting get here before the holiday)

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Very nice header! And I love the color!
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Old 11-20-2012, 07:15 PM   #19
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Thanks guys. I was unsure of how my color choice would fly on TB, I'm glad you guys like it. It was the last semi-full can of VHT header paint I had, so I figured I'd use it for this. I forgot how blue it is.
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Yay!!! My AEM fuel pump just showed up to the shop, and it looks like a very nice unit. I also called AEM the other day to get some info on this particular pump and E85, and hte tech dept. said that these pumps have been proven to be very reliable on E85 and will support over 500whp on E85. It make me giddy just thinking about it.

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Yay!!! My AEM fuel pump just showed up to the shop, and it looks like a very nice unit. I also called AEM the other day to get some info on this particular pump and E85, and hte tech dept. said that these pumps have been proven to be very reliable on E85 and will support over 500whp on E85. It make me giddy just thinking about it.

Fantastic. I came across these the other day. Hard to beat for $80!
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How does that rate vs the deatchwerks or aeromotive?

It's a little under $100 new on amazon.
http://www.amazon.com/AEM-50-1000-Hi...=aem+fuel+pump

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Fantastic. I came across these the other day. Hard to beat for $80!
$80 is cheap, I bought mine for $98.98 shipped.

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It's a little under $100 new on amazon.
http://www.amazon.com/AEM-50-1000-Hi...=aem+fuel+pump

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My buddy was running a DW300 in his 240sx, and even with 10ga wire to the pump the pump shat the bed in less than a year on E85. I can't speak for the Aeromotive pumps, but the AEM tech said this pump has made 500+AWHP in Evos running E85. For $100, I figured I'd risk it before even talking with AEM. But, after talking with tech I don't feel that it's all that much of a risk anymore.
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So how does the emusa wg come out? Heard/read many basd things about it like crappy v-bands and blowby at the valve itself?

Nice header ! will it change color or crimple when hot?
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