1984 242. Hi-Comp n/a build

[diponyou]

Well I just got this from Jeff because I needed something to put my b23 in.

Right now the plans are to throw my hi-comp b23 in it and get the suspension and chassis nice and stiff.

I was originally going to throw the b23 in my 93 but I have tossed around the idea of a hicomp n/a 242 for a little while now and I think it is time.

The goal is to do this somewhat on a budget, I know everyone says that so we will see how that goes.


As far as the drivetrain goes here is the plan:

-b23 block, stock internals just resealed
-either the stock 398 or 530 head milled .040 with some mild port work
-k cam
-not sure what I want to do for fueling yet, carbs would be nice and easy, ITBs would be cool, or a b21f manifold adapted for modern injection(this is looking like the most appealing plan)
-I will build a header and most likely a 2 1/2" exhaust
-megasquirt for engine management, just something basic ms1 or2. I might even consider lh2.4...
-m46 with an upgraded clutch of some sort

As far as suspension goes
-short strut coilovers using the DIY kit from kaphlenke and saab inserts
-I will probably build my own strut braces, boxed control arms/a-arms etc
-ipd sways which it currently has


I am sure plans will change as time goes on but I am going to stick to the same basic concept.

Heres a few pics of the pos







I know its rough in the pics but the interior has been cleaned out already. I still need to get some decent seats and a carpet. The panels and everything else is pretty decent.

The goal is to have it mostly in running shape before it gets too hot.

[Prime240]

Cool
Love that front setup!

[fige]

I bet that was a bargain, parts alone are worth the car x2. Did he come to his senses once he got the subaru? lol

[cosbySweater]

What a turd

[diponyou]

Haha I know.
I think the worst part is un****ing all the ghetto wiring that was done to this thing. Ill probably have the motor out tomorrow night. Ill try and get some of the harness situated as well.
Its difficult having two projects lol. My 93 should be ready to go sometime next weekend. Waiting on some parts in the mail.

[diponyou]

I voted 1 star too.

[cosbySweater]

Originally Posted by diponyou

Haha I know.
I think the worst part is un****ing all the ghetto wiring that was done to this thing. Ill probably have the motor out tomorrow night. Ill try and get some of the harness situated as well.
Its difficult having two projects lol. My 93 should be ready to go sometime next weekend. Waiting on some parts in the mail.

I have no right to call that a turd though lol you've seen my 78

[diponyou]

Lol I know man.
One positive thing about this car is that its dry as a bone.
Its really not that bad of shape. The pics make it look worse. Its already been cleaned up considerably since those pics were taken.

Its getting plastidipped brown as well .

[cosbySweater]

so instead of sh1tberry it's just gonna be sh1t?

[diponyou]

**** sammich

[Lord_Athlon]

Post more pics of the shift knob.

[Krisverde]

This car is horrible LOL. Can't wait to see it run again.

[diponyou]

Originally Posted by Krisverde

This car is horrible LOL. Can't wait to see it run again.

haha yeah its seen better days

I was going over it today and its not as bad as I originally thought. The body is pretty damn good besides the fender/bumper.

The engine harness and a few sketchy things inside are the only wiring issues I saw, everything else seems pretty solid.


I really need to just get this thing apart so I can start with a fresh canvas


I am going to head to a few junkyards this week to see if I can find any interior bits that I could use.

Originally Posted by cosbySweater

What a turd

You're wrong, it's just a Gem that needs some polishing..............

[TheRacer02]

if you need a 530 head I have one in the garage just let me know.

[grnmachine02]

This car is so terrible, I love it! Can't wait to see how it turns out.

[D.E]

Very nice but if you want...

Originally Posted by diponyou

hi-comp b23

...you should probably double this:

Originally Posted by diponyou

head milled .040

[diponyou]

Think ill just go with a solid 1" off.

[Harlard]

RSI makes some sexy headers you know.

[turbobrick211]

You should shave it even more!! LH2.4 can handle it just fine. I shaved .070" of my head that is on my '83 B23F motor with flat top pistons. I used one of our MLS .027" headgaskets and the SCR is right at 12:1. It runs great, but I do with I could have some control over the ignition timing. I have tried a couple different cams, and have a 4-2-1 header on it with 2.5" exhaust. It is a hoot. I had to use a Ford Pinto timing belt, which is exactly the same shape as the volvo one, but has 1 less tooth.

[diponyou]

Please someone correct me if I am wrong(which Im sure I am)
B23s have a deck height varying from around -.008to -.014( I will measure mine to get a more accurate number once my head is off)
If I run a .027 cometic that will give me a quench of around 35-41 which seems decent considering I plan on revving this thing up however I would like it to be closer to the .030 range.

My main concern would be since I am getting the head milled would this affect the quench at all, I know it puts me at risk of making the engine interference.

I am not getting the deck machined so I need to figure out an effective way to optimize quench with compromising anything.

Thanks

[diponyou]

Originally Posted by harribert

RSI makes some sexy headers you know.

Would be ideal but I am gonna try my luck at making my own. I will probably tack it all together and have my buddy who tigs finish it up so it looks sexy

[diponyou]

Originally Posted by turbobrick211

You should shave it even more!! LH2.4 can handle it just fine. I shaved .070" of my head that is on my '83 B23F motor with flat top pistons. I used one of our MLS .027" headgaskets and the SCR is right at 12:1. It runs great, but I do with I could have some control over the ignition timing. I have tried a couple different cams, and have a 4-2-1 header on it with 2.5" exhaust. It is a hoot. I had to use a Ford Pinto timing belt, which is exactly the same shape as the volvo one, but has 1 less tooth.

you sniped my post lol
I am going to be magasquirting this car, although lh2.4 does sound like it would fairly easy considering I have most everything already.

I like the idea of being able to control timing as well though.


Are you running a stock bottom end with no modiifications to deck height?

This sounds like what I will be doing then, I was just on your site looking up the cometics.

What cam are you running in yours?

[miguel.760ti]

If I could I would vote 0 stars

[diponyou]

Lmao