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Old 06-02-2015, 03:47 PM   #1
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I'm taking over the time slip collecting duties for 2015. This is my first year, and a comeback year for the contest in general. We had a lull over the last couple years, and I personally missed seeing the submissions. So I'm jumping in to make this happen again. Please make suggestions if you have any.
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Rules: (nicked from http://www.turbobricks.com/evw.php)
Summary
The "east vs. west" shootout was created by Pat D. (tuff240) to help motivate the group by creating a friendly yet competitive event we could all participate from our home towns. The goal is to lay down
the fastest time you can and earn points for your side spending the time you have improving your times and power output to hopefully grab the bragging rights for the following year.
So far the results have been:

2015 - East
2014 - ??
2013 - ??
2012 - ??
2011 - East
2010 - West ( I know broken board but at the time West was way ahead and East lacked submissions)
2009 - West
2008 - West
2007 - East
2006 - West
2005 - East
2004 - West
2003 - East

2015 Thread
2012 Thread
2011 Thread
2010 Thread
2009 Thread
2008 Thread
2007 Thread
2006 Thread
2005 Thread
2004 Thread
2003 Thread

How The Competition Works:
Turbobricks members from each side (East Coast, West Coast, or International) visit a track throughout the course of the year, record their fastest 1/4 mile time and submit it to the contest admin. The idea is to work on your cars performance
throughout the year returning to the track, grabbing more points, and updating your time.
The points scheme is like this:
0 - 9.99 = 100
10.00 - 10.99 = 90
11.00 - 11.99 = 80
12.00 - 12.99 = 70
13.00 - 13.99 = 60
14.00 - 14.99 = 50
15.00 - 15.99 = 40
16.00 - 16.99 = 30
17.00 - 17.99 = 20
18.00+ = 10 participation points, everyone gets a ribbon.

Each side is divided up into 3 classes of cars, Turbocharged, Normally Aspirated, or "Hybrid" - a non-Volvo powered Volvo. Essentially there are now 3 competitions running simultaneously per side. Each class is equally important since the final victory in that class holds 1/3
of your sides total wins.
At the end of each year all the points are tallied up for a final count in each vehicle class. The side with the majority of class wins is declared victorious and thus has the bragging rights for the next year.

The Split:
Please verify the side you are grouped in by state. The states are grouped as evenly as possible by member representation. The west gets Hawaii, the east gets Puerto Rico. If we have forgotten or over
looked any other represented US, Canadian, or Mexican governed land masses please let us know so we can assign it a side.

Countries outside of North America will run as a third category.

Rules for Competitors:
  • Be mature, no cheating/bending rules, and no complaining. This is for fun. If you cheat, you're out.
  • Your time submission must include a photograph or video of your car and the score board reading your time (we can spot photoshop jobs). A time slip scan and fellow member verification can be used if
    approved.
  • Any runs made must be in the current year.
  • 1 registered run per vehicle, and I'll record the driver/owner. If you own 2 turbos, I'd love to see the data collected for both.
  • If a vehicle is sold to either side, points remain until new owner beats the standing entry and the previous time and points are removed.
  • If a Driver moves sides, points remain until driver runs at new location and previous points are removed.
  • If a vehicle changes classes within the year, only the current class will be registered.
  • If a driver is disqualified from the competition, their time will remain however carry no point value for the side.
  • All runs must be made at an official timed 1/4 mile drag strip. Estimates from 1/8th mile tracks, self timing, or non sanctioned timing devices are not allowed.


How to Submit a Time
Submitting a time is as simple as dropping me a PM, or posting in this thread. Posting in this thread will not guarantee that I'll see your post, sometimes I'm busy and get behind reading. So follow with a PM too. If my PM box is full someone can surely email or catch me on facebook so that I can clean it out.

I will need the following things from you for a verified submission:
  • Board Username
  • Car Model
  • Brief (A paragraph or two) Description of your Vehicle
  • Location (East, West, or International) and Class (Turbo, N/A, or Hybrid)
  • A Scan of your timeslip, for verification purposes. Either circle your number on the slip, or (better!) include a photo of the car with the numbers on it.

When I get your PM, if I don't have enough time at that moment to submit it to the , it will go to the pending submissions list below.
Submissions will be run through on a first come, first serve basis.



Let's see some times!



This is just a copy and paste from many years ago... Rules stay the same, as does the Game



Mods Can I get a sticky for this thread through the end of the 2015 year.

Leader board this year will be a google spreadsheet embedded here that I will update. I think it should be real time updated as I add entries.

So get racing! And send me time slips from the first 6 months if you have them. The year is half done.

---------------------------------- And without further ado, The Leaderboard -----------------------------



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Old 06-02-2015, 04:02 PM   #2
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Nice! I will have a submission ASAP.
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Old 06-02-2015, 05:37 PM   #3
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OK. I think I have a working Leaderboard. I don't understand the point system.

Is it broken down on ET times something like this?

0-9.99 = 100
10.00-10.99 = 90
11.00 - 11.99 = 80
12.00-12.99 = 70
13.00 - 13.99 = 60
14.00-14.99 = 50
15.00-15.99 = 40
16.00-16.99 = 30
17.00-17.99 = 20
18.00+ = 10 participation points, everyone gets a ribbon.
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Old 06-02-2015, 05:52 PM   #4
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The point system was changed a few times. You are running it, you get to decide how the points work best.

And awesome!
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interested to follow this.
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Old 06-02-2015, 06:05 PM   #6
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interested to follow this.
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Old 06-02-2015, 06:08 PM   #7
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Oh nice. Motivation to get my butt in gear!
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Old 06-02-2015, 06:14 PM   #8
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I'm scrutinizing the rules a bit, since I just copied them from the old thread.

One rule that I'm changing is about the number of submissions per person. It now reads:
[*]1 registered run per vehicle, and I'll record the driver/owner. If you own 2 turbos and you want to race both I'd love to see the data collected for both.
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Old 06-02-2015, 06:17 PM   #9
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Guess you can change messaging via AIM to messaging via Facebook or somethig along those lines. Does anyone even use AIM these days anyway?
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Old 06-02-2015, 06:22 PM   #10
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Plz install AIM to report times. Those without AIM will not have times recorded.
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Old 06-02-2015, 06:27 PM   #11
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cool thread. i forgot this was a thing.
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Old 06-02-2015, 06:31 PM   #12
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LOL. "You have mail!"
I fixed up that historical nonsense. I guess I need to add a section for International on the Leaderboard too. I saw quite a few posts there in past years. I'll wait for an international submission or two before I create that. Or maybe we divide the World into hemispheres so that they can join one of the 2 current teams. I'll think about it. Volvo World War I


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Old 06-02-2015, 10:28 PM   #13
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grrr I have a slip from earlier this year hidden somewhere... no photo of the car though. I know someone has a video of it though.
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Old 06-03-2015, 01:52 AM   #14
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Time slip and a witness works.
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Old 06-05-2015, 02:38 AM   #15
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Had a chance to run 1/8 tonight...8.7 @ 81.94, with a crappy 2.150 60-ft. I don't know why this thing isn't getting out of the hole quicker. That was on ET Streets. Should be good for a mid-13 though once I can get it to a full 1/4 track.
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Old 06-05-2015, 03:04 AM   #16
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2.1 60ft's is good. Blow the doors off any unskilled driver.
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Yeah, but it's not that great for a drag tire. Was it spinning or bogging?
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Shoot. I hadn't considered 1/8 mile timeslips for points. 850wagon... are you submitting that time?
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2.1 60ft's is good. Blow the doors off any unskilled driver.
a 2.1 60 is average at best. I get mad if I cut anything over a 2.0 on street tires at DD pressure.

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Had a chance to run 1/8 tonight...8.7 @ 81.94, with a crappy 2.150 60-ft. I don't know why this thing isn't getting out of the hole quicker. That was on ET Streets. Should be good for a mid-13 though once I can get it to a full 1/4 track.
lower tire pressure, better burnout. Be careful of wheelhop with et streets, you'll break stuff quick fast and in a hurry.

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Shoot. I hadn't considered 1/8 mile timeslips for points. 850wagon... are you submitting that time?
It hasn't counted for points in the past, how are we going to handle that? (And by how are we, I really mean how are you ;) )


this is most excellent though, already a flurry of activity. Good job Ken!
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Wow, happy to see this brought back! We'll be submitting a few slip from our local car!
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How do y'all feel about linking to some standard conversion to get a 1/4 ET:

http://www.hotrodpitstop.com/tool.php#3

If you plug in the 8.7 1/8 above you get a 13.61 1/4 pass. Does that sound reasonable? I know there are lots of 1/8 mile tracks around these days. A couple in Southern California where we have alot of members. (for the west team too).

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lower tire pressure, better burnout. Be careful of wheelhop with et streets, you'll break stuff quick fast and in a hurry.



It hasn't counted for points in the past, how are we going to handle that? (And by how are we, I really mean how are you ;) )


this is most excellent though, already a flurry of activity. Good job Ken!
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Old 06-05-2015, 12:23 PM   #22
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I'm hopefully going to the track tonight, being there by myself how could I make my time count? Seems like my only option would be to find a gopro.
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Old 06-05-2015, 01:15 PM   #23
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Snap a picture of that time slip at the track with your car in the background with matching number. Post here. Celebrate...

Many submissions will be completely on the honor system I expect. Do your best to prove it was you and your car. We will let the Turbobricks peers in your neighborhood shake out any shady business. "What? That guy doesn't even have a Volvo!"

And good luck.
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yeah there's no big prize or anything like that, it's always more or less been on the honor system, pic of the slip ideally with the car & number, but I don't recall anyone throwing the BS flag from the inception of the contest, keep it clean and fun!
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How do y'all feel about linking to some standard conversion to get a 1/4 ET:

http://www.hotrodpitstop.com/tool.php#3

If you plug in the 8.7 1/8 above you get a 13.61 1/4 pass. Does that sound reasonable? I know there are lots of 1/8 mile tracks around these days. A couple in Southern California where we have alot of members. (for the west team too).
eh rather than convert individual slips, maybe just have a breakdown for 1/8th mile that corresponds to the 1/4 mile chart. I guess that's kinda the same thing, except you'd front load the effort and just plug numbers in after that..
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