Put a new Clutch in the 744 and thought might as well throw away that crappy M46

CHESH740R · 01-27-2005, 07:23 PM

And replace it with a M90!!!!!!

Here's some pics of the 2 boxes side by side. (M90 on left)

M46 in the background

Different propshafts. M90 is the Longer one.

As for difficulty of the conversion. Basically its like replacing a m46 with another. All i had to fab up was a bracket bolted to the 2 rear gearshift gaitor bolts to hold the rear of the gearlever up, as 940's have a bracket there allready.

Cable ties are your best friend!!!!!

I used a 940 Turbo Diesel M90 Equipped Friction Plate to get correct Splines(disc is same diameter as M46 One), used the stock M46 pressure plate, and then just used the standard release bearing that came with the m90.

Guessing the other numbers are Sachs Part Numbers , the volvo part number is 9143348

As for overall impressions, this box is fantastic!!!

The car is incredibly quiet, no gear noise at all, it shifts through the gears very slickly, and so far 1 little raised boost run the clutch is holding the 1.1bar boost.

The biting point on the clutch is just like the M46, which is great as the M90 Equipped 940's with there dual mass Flywheels have a horrible biting point.

dl242gt · 01-27-2005, 07:51 PM

Nice swap there! Now you can make big power and blow out that V6 that tried to hang with you.

Enjoy the road,

BoxDriver2 · 01-27-2005, 10:13 PM

Send me one.

You rule [only if you send me one].

Very nice!

Aussie Volvo · 01-28-2005, 08:27 AM

Hi

Are you using a 9 inch stepped flywheel

Have you use a Volvo/sachs clutch kit infront of you M46 perviously. If so have do you have the volvo/sachs parts number

I am have been having problem getting a price in a Volvo/sachs clutch kit from Volvo Australia

CHESH740R · 01-28-2005, 09:06 AM

Yes My car has a 9 inch or 228mm stepped Flywheel.

I will look at the old M46 Friction disc tonight to see what brand it is and report back on the part numbers for you.

Were you after part numbers for a Clutch Kit for an M46 Gearbox on a 740??

I can get you the Volvo partnumber tonight from Vadis, but as for Sachs Part numbers i might struggle there, unless my old friction disc is a sachs part.

grizlyadams · 01-28-2005, 10:25 AM

Very cool chesh, very cool! Welcome to the M90 club

I want my clutch to be like yours!!! its not fair, sodding M90....

Griz

Neil Peart · 01-28-2005, 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by grizlyadams

Very cool chesh, very cool! Welcome to the M90 club

I want my clutch to be like yours!!! its not fair, sodding M90....

Griz

garsh i hate u brits....*sniff* *sniff* 1st its griz's m90...then topgear...then now chesh has a m90...man...im coming now!

And chesh..might wanna look into an 850R clutch. I heard they can really hold alot...like 600+ horse and monster tourque.

CHESH740R · 01-28-2005, 12:00 PM

Been thrashing the arse out of the car today, Man this thing is great.

I wouldnt have thought swapping boxes would have made that much of a difference, but boy has it.

1st to 2nd change is fantastic, it slots into 2nd gear and bam it just keeps pulling, whereas before the car would bog a bit before going.

As for the 850R Clutch neil, i'll look into it, but this derv plate seems to be handling all the torque i'm throwing at it very comfortably indeed.

I don't think 5th Gear is as low as the M46's Overdrive cos at 3k i'm doing 80mph whereas i'm sure that was 85mph with the M46.

Now i need to find another M90 and fit one to the Estate.

Neil Peart · 01-28-2005, 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CHESH740R

Now i need to find another M90 and fit one to the Estate.

HAHA YEA!! tat would be sweet. O..a derv plate..that should be good..but if its start to slip up a lil..look into a 850R one

MikeHardy · 01-28-2005, 12:21 PM

only thing is the 850R plate might mean having to swap from the stock flywheel to the later dual mass one.

1stRaven · 01-28-2005, 12:27 PM

How long did the conversion take?

240T man · 01-28-2005, 12:49 PM

Send me one.

spongemonster · 01-28-2005, 02:05 PM

Hehehe damn you guys and your good gearboxes. I'm stuck with m46's that just can't handle what I need them to handle. I have to admit it hurts seeing something bolt up so easily that works so well lol. Lucky Europeans. Hey we got some of the 240 e-codes as an option in Canada so why couldn't we have gotten those?
James

Neil Peart · 01-28-2005, 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spongemonster

Hehehe damn you guys and your good gearboxes. I'm stuck with m46's that just can't handle what I need them to handle. I have to admit it hurts seeing something bolt up so easily that works so well lol. Lucky Europeans. Hey we got some of the 240 e-codes as an option in Canada so why couldn't we have gotten those?
James

heheh they dont have 240turbos

CHESH740R · 01-29-2005, 02:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1straven

How long did the conversion take?

Started at 3pm finished at 10pm, wasnt exactly rushing as it was pissing it down with rain for most of that time. Also my assistant when ever my back was turned had pissed off and could be found playing Medal of Honour Pacific Something.

Also i spent a good hour searching my **** tip of a garage for some metal strip to make that little rear bracket, as well as the obligorty search for other tools.

Tenacious Todd · 08-16-2005, 02:51 PM

How much for tranny driveshaft etc shipped to The US??

08-17-2005, 01:48 PM

damn that m90 looks beefy. and dammit I wish I had european junkyard connections!

nice pics dude.

Mike

1stRaven · 08-17-2005, 02:53 PM

you do, chesh via emails and pm's.

01-19-2007, 04:09 PM

Hi there!

European scrap yards!?

Search further ;) M90s are bought in the matter of seconds. Like if the car had an accident, then, as soon as it is delivered to the scrappie, there are 4 or 5 Volvo drivers waiting in front of the office...

What I don't understand is why Volvo didn't make the M90 have a gear pattern like the M47:

R 1 3 5
| | | |
------
| |
2 4

Regards from Germany

D.

CAPT_BLOTTO · 01-19-2007, 04:52 PM

the m90 is so beefy looking to the m46

suterman · 01-19-2007, 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CHESH740R

I don't think 5th Gear is as low as the M46's Overdrive cos at 3k i'm doing 80mph whereas i'm sure that was 85mph with the M46.

Now i need to find another M90 and fit one to the Estate.

maybe its the diff ratio???

I used to get 60 in 2nd and upto 110 in 4th in the 940 , i think that was a 3.73 1031 diff but dont quote me.

1stRaven · 01-19-2007, 05:52 PM

that sounds about the same for mine car. 60 in second and just over 110 in 4th

BB-Q · 01-19-2007, 06:34 PM

me too

mAydAy · 01-19-2007, 07:02 PM

Holy thread resurrection batman?

CHESH740R · 01-19-2007, 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1straven

that sounds about the same for mine car. 60 in second and just over 110 in 4th

eh i used to clock about 125mph in 4th, and even had the dyno confirm it.

Oh and jeez thread resurcection, can't believe i did that in Januray 2005. That was 2 years ago.

01-27-2005, 07:23 PM	#1
CHESH740R Board Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: England, that little island that everyone fled except me.	Put a new Clutch in the 744 and thought might as well throw away that crappy M46 And replace it with a M90!!!!!! Here's some pics of the 2 boxes side by side. (M90 on left) M46 in the background Different propshafts. M90 is the Longer one. As for difficulty of the conversion. Basically its like replacing a m46 with another. All i had to fab up was a bracket bolted to the 2 rear gearshift gaitor bolts to hold the rear of the gearlever up, as 940's have a bracket there allready. Cable ties are your best friend!!!!! I used a 940 Turbo Diesel M90 Equipped Friction Plate to get correct Splines(disc is same diameter as M46 One), used the stock M46 pressure plate, and then just used the standard release bearing that came with the m90. Guessing the other numbers are Sachs Part Numbers , the volvo part number is 9143348 As for overall impressions, this box is fantastic!!! The car is incredibly quiet, no gear noise at all, it shifts through the gears very slickly, and so far 1 little raised boost run the clutch is holding the 1.1bar boost. The biting point on the clutch is just like the M46, which is great as the M90 Equipped 940's with there dual mass Flywheels have a horrible biting point.

01-27-2005, 07:51 PM	#2
dl242gt Can play the blues Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: S NJ, a suburb of Phila.	M90 install Nice swap there! Now you can make big power and blow out that V6 that tried to hang with you. Enjoy the road, __________________ Dave, 1982 242 turbo. 318k miles. A few changes for the better. 1993 245 Classic, 280k miles. Now with enem V15.

01-27-2005, 10:13 PM	#3
BoxDriver2 Location: Michigan Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Detroit	Send me one. You rule [only if you send me one]. Very nice! __________________ 88 745Ti // 06 Saab 92x // 71 Pontiac LeMans // 02 Avalanche Z-71 - All Modified Towerymt: after you finally do part with the 745, will you still buy parts for it? Towerymt: phantom car syndrome

01-28-2005, 08:27 AM	#4
Aussie Volvo Board Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Sunshine coast Queensland Australia	Put a new Clutch in the 744 and thought might as well throw away that crappy M46 Hi Are you using a 9 inch stepped flywheel Have you use a Volvo/sachs clutch kit infront of you M46 perviously. If so have do you have the volvo/sachs parts number I am have been having problem getting a price in a Volvo/sachs clutch kit from Volvo Australia __________________ George New toy/second car Old car gone but not forgotten(sold to my father) see link below http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2151948

01-28-2005, 10:25 AM	#6
grizlyadams ni! Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Brum, UK	Very cool chesh, very cool! Welcome to the M90 club I want my clutch to be like yours!!! its not fair, sodding M90.... Griz __________________ I AM THE GRIZ!!! (bit like the brummy stig ) 1997 945 Turbo CD spec - Augura Alloys.... Mostly Broken on hol what to do with it? - 1995 Land Rover Discover 1996 Volvo 945 LPT (B230FK + M90) - Billy sports, lowered 40mm, upper and lower strut braces, ipd bars, solid endlinks, 18" volvo cappella alloys, 25/30mm spacers 16v 2.5L penta beast engine full of SPM parts - built (ON HOLD!)

01-28-2005, 09:06 AM	#5
CHESH740R Board Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: England, that little island that everyone fled except me.	Yes My car has a 9 inch or 228mm stepped Flywheel. I will look at the old M46 Friction disc tonight to see what brand it is and report back on the part numbers for you. Were you after part numbers for a Clutch Kit for an M46 Gearbox on a 740?? I can get you the Volvo partnumber tonight from Vadis, but as for Sachs Part numbers i might struggle there, unless my old friction disc is a sachs part.

01-28-2005, 12:00 PM	#8
CHESH740R Board Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: England, that little island that everyone fled except me.	Been thrashing the arse out of the car today, Man this thing is great. I wouldnt have thought swapping boxes would have made that much of a difference, but boy has it. 1st to 2nd change is fantastic, it slots into 2nd gear and bam it just keeps pulling, whereas before the car would bog a bit before going. As for the 850R Clutch neil, i'll look into it, but this derv plate seems to be handling all the torque i'm throwing at it very comfortably indeed. I don't think 5th Gear is as low as the M46's Overdrive cos at 3k i'm doing 80mph whereas i'm sure that was 85mph with the M46. Now i need to find another M90 and fit one to the Estate.

01-28-2005, 12:21 PM	#10
MikeHardy The Sirius/Nova Police Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: northern Wales, UK	only thing is the 850R plate might mean having to swap from the stock flywheel to the later dual mass one. __________________ Mike 1998 V40 2.0T CD

01-28-2005, 12:27 PM	#11
1stRaven The House of Bricks Chef Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Lincoln - UK	How long did the conversion take? __________________ Website ..... Email The 700R Build thread

01-28-2005, 12:49 PM	#12
240T man Sam was here Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Florence, Redneckistan 35633	Send me one. __________________ '84 244 & '90 765

01-28-2005, 02:05 PM	#13
spongemonster Board Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Vernon, British Columbia	Hehehe damn you guys and your good gearboxes. I'm stuck with m46's that just can't handle what I need them to handle. I have to admit it hurts seeing something bolt up so easily that works so well lol. Lucky Europeans. Hey we got some of the 240 e-codes as an option in Canada so why couldn't we have gotten those? James __________________ Sometimes I consider letting my car burn.... The tires off the rims.

08-16-2005, 02:51 PM	#16
Tenacious Todd Board Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Sykesville MD 21784	How much for tranny driveshaft etc shipped to The US?? __________________ Looking to buy 700/900 series car with 5.0 Or possible trade my 98 S70GLT for your SUV??

08-17-2005, 01:48 PM	#17
740ATL Guest	damn that m90 looks beefy. and dammit I wish I had european junkyard connections! nice pics dude. Mike

08-17-2005, 02:53 PM	#18
1stRaven The House of Bricks Chef Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Lincoln - UK	you do, chesh via emails and pm's.

01-19-2007, 04:09 PM	#19
Unregistered-1 Guest	Hmmmmmmmmm........ Hi there! European scrap yards!? Search further ;) M90s are bought in the matter of seconds. Like if the car had an accident, then, as soon as it is delivered to the scrappie, there are 4 or 5 Volvo drivers waiting in front of the office... What I don't understand is why Volvo didn't make the M90 have a gear pattern like the M47: R 1 3 5 \| \| \| \| ------ \| \| 2 4 Regards from Germany D.

01-19-2007, 04:52 PM	#20
CAPT_BLOTTO Haxxed? Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Mesa, Az	the m90 is so beefy looking to the m46 __________________ - from Brandon 1988 Volvo 244 DL Da Yellow Parting out the 240 Da Yellos' build thread RIP 8/15/10

01-19-2007, 05:52 PM	#22
1stRaven The House of Bricks Chef Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Lincoln - UK	that sounds about the same for mine car. 60 in second and just over 110 in 4th

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