TD05-12B, What Is it good for?

SteveMD · 03-20-2006, 12:49 PM

I pulled this turbo off an '88 760t in teh J/Y. Couldn't find it listed in the turbo size data chart.

By the way, what do the last 3 figures signify, i.e. "13G" etc?

linuxman51 · 03-20-2006, 01:33 PM

the compressor wheel. its a good turbo to upgrade to a 16g.

acbarnett · 03-20-2006, 01:37 PM

20g would be even better...

boosted · 03-20-2006, 01:56 PM

just stop

stylngle2003 · 03-20-2006, 03:04 PM

if you have the means, you could send it to someone like Herman at Cherry Turbos to have it rebuilt/upgraded to a larger compressor wheel. the TD05 turbine side is larger and flows better than a TD04, so ultimately, with a proper cold side on it, has greater potential for power making. PM Infector 944 and Steve C about it, they both have modded TD05s

SteveMD · 03-20-2006, 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stylngle2003

if you have the means, you could send it to someone like Herman at Cherry Turbos to have it rebuilt/upgraded to a larger compressor wheel. the TD05 turbine side is larger and flows better than a TD04, so ultimately, with a proper cold side on it, has greater potential for power making. PM Infector 944 and Steve C about it, they both have modded TD05s

Cool. All I knew before pulling it was what I read in a turbo faq at brickboard. The faq said the TDO5 was good for making more boost than, for example, the TD04 in my 945.

swedefiend · 03-20-2006, 04:10 PM

I've had a lot of fun with mine on a b21ft... (bone stock 12b afaik)

BDKR · 03-20-2006, 04:28 PM

Another thing you need to know is that nobody has yet mated one of these to a 90+ manifold. At least the pre 90's are cheap and plentiful.

Magnum TE · 03-20-2006, 04:48 PM

to me the volvo TDO5 is a "dead end" turbo platform for making big (250hp+) power. ((is it sad that I think 250whp is big power?))

Without machine work you will never...

1. get a bigger compressor wheel (16g and bigger require a H size turbine wheel)
2. get it to mate to a 90+ manifold. (its possible but timeconsuming and potentially can ruin the turbine housing.
3. Have a good workin wastegate. (a external wastegate is the only way I can see that crapy gate working well.

So you read that and thought well then what's the point.

Here's the point. If you are looking for a huge squirl sucking turbo, look twords another platform. The tdo5 12b will not easily compete with a t3/4 hybrid or a holset, or another specialty performance turbo.

By machining the turbine housing to acept the bigger mitsubhishi heavy industries wheel (H denoted on tdo5H) you can add much larger compressor wheels. A tdo5h hot side and a 16G or better cold side will flow much more than any of the td04 offerings. You are still limited to the soso design of the volvo tdo5 turbine housing. Poor internal wastegate, and ment only for a pre 90 manifold.

For a daily driver, for someone who dosent have a 90+ mani or the budget to get a real performance turbo, or for someone who dosent want to make 300hp, its a fine turbo.

To directally answer your question a td05 12b has an exhaust side that flows better than a tdo4h 13G but the 12b compresor wheel is not as effeciant.

This concludes my rambeling.

thelostartof · 03-20-2006, 05:27 PM

toby .. i know how to get a TD05 onto a 90+ manifold .. i just need a housing and manifold to prove it .. have extra laying around?

Chigga 744SE · 03-20-2006, 05:37 PM

I have a TD05-12B hybrid with TD05HL-16G compressor from Cherry Turbo, pretty much everything was brand new, and its trouble free, before it had an exhaust leak the turbo spools up pretty nice and it moves. I didn't dyno it, but now I have to fix the damn exhaust leak.

and yes, I had to use the pre-90 manifold, kind of a downgrade, at least I port it out.

Cherry Turbo isn't cheap, but Herman does great work.

Magnum TE · 03-20-2006, 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thelostartof

toby .. i know how to get a TD05 onto a 90+ manifold .. i just need a housing and manifold to prove it .. have extra laying around?

I know how to get one on a 90+ as well, I have both the manifold and the housing. I just had to remove matterial from the housing. I havent found a way to make the seats for the nuts flush so its not a practical solution yet. Lets chat off line, about it.

-Magnum.TE

thelostartof · 03-20-2006, 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Infector 944

I know how to get one on a 90+ as well, I have both the manifold and the housing. I just had to remove matterial from the housing. I havent found a way to make the seats for the nuts flush so its not a practical solution yet. Lets chat off line, about it.

-Magnum.TE

and see i know another way to do it besides what you tried ....

SteveMD · 03-20-2006, 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thelostartof

and see i know another way to do it besides what you tried ....

Well, don't keep us in suspense.

thelostartof · 03-20-2006, 11:24 PM

i'll tell all once i have a housing and manifold here and show it done as now its an idea that works i just need to prove it

peehound · 03-21-2006, 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BDKR

Another thing you need to know is that nobody has yet mated one of these to a 90+ manifold.

Sorry bub; I did.
Notice the funny "bolts".

SteveMD · 03-22-2006, 12:06 PM

What mods other than the 'bolts' did you make to the mani/TD-05? Run good?

thelostartof · 03-22-2006, 12:10 PM

lol you welded it on there?? ahahha very nice .. tho if that starts to leak its a hard fix .. i guess that's fine if you do not plan on reusing either of those parts

SteveMD · 03-22-2006, 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thelostartof

lol you welded it on there?? ahahha very nice .. tho if that starts to leak its a hard fix .. i guess that's fine if you do not plan on reusing either of those parts

Do you still need a TD05 housing to experiment on? I can't supply a '90-on mani, though.

thelostartof · 03-22-2006, 12:37 PM

if you have an extra housing .... tho i'm still looking for one to buy also so ...

i should be getting an extra 90+ soon(one of mine that's been waiting for me to get it) so i can test on that one or i have another here i can test on

JohnMc · 03-22-2006, 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thelostartof

lol you welded it on there?? ahahha very nice .. tho if that starts to leak its a hard fix .. i guess that's fine if you do not plan on reusing either of those parts

LOL. I guess you could always bust out the angle grinder wrench to remove it.

That's the corner I was going to have problems with using my angled 16t housing, but I think I will be able to work on the flange on the mani a little bit (clearance, flatten it out), drill out the hole, and then use a stud on the housing with a nut sitting on the flange.

thelostartof · 03-22-2006, 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnMc

LOL. I guess you could always bust out the angle grinder wrench to remove it.

That's the corner I was going to have problems with using my angled 16t housing, but I think I will be able to work on the flange on the mani a little bit (clearance, flatten it out), drill out the hole, and then use a stud on the housing with a nut sitting on the flange.

shhhhh you are giving away my trick to fit the TD05 on a 90+

CerebralAilment · 05-12-2012, 07:21 PM

I just found one of these

MrBill · 05-12-2012, 08:29 PM

Stop posting

CerebralAilment · 05-12-2012, 08:36 PM

Ooo ur a big man parking in the red Zonee

03-20-2006, 12:49 PM	#1
SteveMD Membro Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: MD (Maryland)	TD05-12B, What Is it good for? I pulled this turbo off an '88 760t in teh J/Y. Couldn't find it listed in the turbo size data chart. By the way, what do the last 3 figures signify, i.e. "13G" etc?

03-20-2006, 01:33 PM	#2
linuxman51 ARRRRHARHAR Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: mont, AL	the compressor wheel. its a good turbo to upgrade to a 16g. __________________ "They bum rushed them in their own crib, they drank all their beer, they partied with their ladies and they left with the trophy" Megasquirt Tuning! Plug and play LH 2.4 Megasquirt, now with stealth mode! ported volvo heads

03-20-2006, 01:37 PM	#3
acbarnett SAAB defector Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: L-town in the M-hizzie	20g would be even better... __________________

03-20-2006, 01:56 PM	#4
boosted Board Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: melbourne, fl	just stop __________________ -1998 V70r AWD

03-20-2006, 03:04 PM	#5
stylngle2003 Board Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Two Up, Two Down	if you have the means, you could send it to someone like Herman at Cherry Turbos to have it rebuilt/upgraded to a larger compressor wheel. the TD05 turbine side is larger and flows better than a TD04, so ultimately, with a proper cold side on it, has greater potential for power making. PM Infector 944 and Steve C about it, they both have modded TD05s __________________ -Billy 1993 945ti "titebox" (DD) 1985 744GLE (perpetual +t project) 1996 Chevrolet Tahoe Vortec 2WD 1990 Mazda Miata track toy

03-20-2006, 04:10 PM	#7
swedefiend Gavri'el Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Under the hood of the white car :)	I've had a lot of fun with mine on a b21ft... (bone stock 12b afaik)

03-20-2006, 04:48 PM	#9
Magnum TE Broke another B230F+T Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Santa Rosa Ca	to me the volvo TDO5 is a "dead end" turbo platform for making big (250hp+) power. ((is it sad that I think 250whp is big power?)) Without machine work you will never... 1. get a bigger compressor wheel (16g and bigger require a H size turbine wheel) 2. get it to mate to a 90+ manifold. (its possible but timeconsuming and potentially can ruin the turbine housing. 3. Have a good workin wastegate. (a external wastegate is the only way I can see that crapy gate working well. So you read that and thought well then what's the point. Here's the point. If you are looking for a huge squirl sucking turbo, look twords another platform. The tdo5 12b will not easily compete with a t3/4 hybrid or a holset, or another specialty performance turbo. By machining the turbine housing to acept the bigger mitsubhishi heavy industries wheel (H denoted on tdo5H) you can add much larger compressor wheels. A tdo5h hot side and a 16G or better cold side will flow much more than any of the td04 offerings. You are still limited to the soso design of the volvo tdo5 turbine housing. Poor internal wastegate, and ment only for a pre 90 manifold. For a daily driver, for someone who dosent have a 90+ mani or the budget to get a real performance turbo, or for someone who dosent want to make 300hp, its a fine turbo. To directally answer your question a td05 12b has an exhaust side that flows better than a tdo4h 13G but the 12b compresor wheel is not as effeciant. This concludes my rambeling. __________________ Goldie Bricks - '92 940T : B230F+T MSnS-e... The Gray Car - '92 940T : stock drive-train DD I have some cool stuff done to my cars The Gold Car: Owner since 2001 B230F+T MS1nS-E / Ford T5, 1pc DL ebay FMIC / Mechman Alternator T3 60/.63 ATP WG / 63#/hr CFI injectors Full 3" Turbo to tail / IPD TP Cam IPD bars / Coilovers Koni Dampners / Lower Chassis brace NIW-T3 camber plates / Full poly front end Full Kaplhenke Rear end -Torque rods -PH Bar -Subframe Daily Driver

03-20-2006, 05:27 PM	#10
thelostartof unbalanced chemical Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Apache Junction, AZ	toby .. i know how to get a TD05 onto a 90+ manifold .. i just need a housing and manifold to prove it .. have extra laying around? __________________ Chip Feedback Thread / PM Current Chip Prices / PM for DownPipe & Exhaust Price / Silicone Cooling Hose Sets 2/7/9

03-20-2006, 05:37 PM	#11
Chigga 744SE Taiwan Panda Racing Unit Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: On. Canada	I have a TD05-12B hybrid with TD05HL-16G compressor from Cherry Turbo, pretty much everything was brand new, and its trouble free, before it had an exhaust leak the turbo spools up pretty nice and it moves. I didn't dyno it, but now I have to fix the damn exhaust leak. and yes, I had to use the pre-90 manifold, kind of a downgrade, at least I port it out. Cherry Turbo isn't cheap, but Herman does great work. __________________

03-20-2006, 11:24 PM	#15
thelostartof unbalanced chemical Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Apache Junction, AZ	i'll tell all once i have a housing and manifold here and show it done as now its an idea that works i just need to prove it

03-22-2006, 12:06 PM	#17
SteveMD Membro Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: MD (Maryland)	What mods other than the 'bolts' did you make to the mani/TD-05? Run good?

03-22-2006, 12:10 PM	#18
thelostartof unbalanced chemical Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Apache Junction, AZ	lol you welded it on there?? ahahha very nice .. tho if that starts to leak its a hard fix .. i guess that's fine if you do not plan on reusing either of those parts

03-22-2006, 12:37 PM	#20
thelostartof unbalanced chemical Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Apache Junction, AZ	if you have an extra housing .... tho i'm still looking for one to buy also so ... i should be getting an extra 90+ soon(one of mine that's been waiting for me to get it) so i can test on that one or i have another here i can test on

05-12-2012, 08:36 PM	#25
CerebralAilment Royale with cheese Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Dirigo	Ooo ur a big man parking in the red Zonee

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