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03-31-2006, 03:06 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: New Philadelphia, Ohio
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Just bought a volvo turbo, help me distinguish which one?!...
I got this cheap, The last owner said it was from a volvo, but i searched and can't find any other turbo like it anywhere!.. It is an AiResearch T3 and has a 42 inside where the compressed air comes out... and the rest of the numbers i cant read due to paint..
   i has the semi circles around the exhaust flange... but is totally flat, and doesnt have a cut out where some do. i was told this is a garrett tb06... but i cant find anything on that either... mayb off a 740, but your the volvo guys so please help me out! -thanks |
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03-31-2006, 03:34 AM
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sales@knoxmotorsports.us
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Henrico County
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looks like a .42cold .48 hot garrett T3 turbo
stock on 740 turbos and many 240 turbos if anything, it's a garrett tb03
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03-31-2006, 04:03 AM
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WHO DAT!!!
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Shreveport, Louisiana
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I hope you didn't pay more than 50 bucks for that abomination(I wouldn't pay that much...).
It's not really an abomination, just probably has uber high miles, rebuilt appearing however. Like Billy said it's most likely a .42 cold/.48 hot Garrett T3(same as AiReasearch), which came from either any 240 turbo or an 85-87 740 turbo or 85-89(?) 760 turbo. Doesn't really matter where it came from, it's in the hands of an import _jap_ tuner now! What do you plan to put it on? Some sort of Mazda?
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03-31-2006, 04:09 AM
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Location: Henrico County
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03-31-2006, 04:28 AM
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WHO DAT!!!
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Shreveport, Louisiana
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Looks like that Probe's gonna fly off any minute now... |
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03-31-2006, 10:34 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: New Philadelphia, Ohio
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and yes im a probeguy and people rip on me cause i have a bodykit and a wing... but i got the kit for really cheap and the wing when i was 16, so im kind of out of the style myself and thinking about returning it to stock... .. but any ways its going on a JDM Mazda KLZE engine 2.5 this is pretty much the smallest turbo that will work "ok" untill i atleast get something better.. my kit is almost complete as i only need some piping, wastegate, and a 140 dolla megasquirt unit. |
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03-31-2006, 11:26 AM
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sales@knoxmotorsports.us
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Henrico County
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your KLZE is gonna make this turbo run out of steam really quick. if i were you, i'd keep the boost low (<12psi) and just practice tuning ms with it, since you won't have to worry about making crazy hp/tq numbers. it will let you focus on drivability and getting a nice tune. when you get a few more dollars to spend, you could step up to a t3/t4 or something.
also, your turbo already has an internal wastegate (maybe you mean blowoff valve?). if you wanna go one step further and make it even better, you could get an ATP ultimate wastegate as soon as funds allow. it will control boost much better and bump your power a bit too. plus you can easily fab up a 3" downpipe since it's got a V-band outlet http://www.atpturbo.com/Merchant2/me...egory_Code=WGT what do you have done to the kl? rods? pistons? since it has 192bhp stock, you could probably expect 250bhp from this turbo, but not too much more, since after that it would begin to choke the 2.5L engine |
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03-31-2006, 01:21 PM
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Can play the blues
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: S NJ, a suburb of Phila.
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turbo
Look on the inside of the opening where the turbine housing would meet the exhaust manifold. There will be a small number stamped on the inside edge of the opening. Either .48 or .63 should be there. If it's got a flat flange it might be from a very early 240 turbo. They had flat T3 flanges for about the first six months to a year of production. You can almost see what it is in one of the pictures.
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03-31-2006, 01:40 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: New Philadelphia, Ohio
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yes i know its internally wastegated, but the turbo hot pipes for my car have the block off plate on the 5 bolt exhaust outlet flange and a 2 bolt extension for an external wastegate.. so i kinda hafta get one... i was looking to weld my own hot pipes, but now the probe turbo community is growing, and all the hotpipes can be had for under $350, stainless too... they are a quite extensive design too if you've never seen it... also.. I am leaving the klze block stock for now, as it is rumored to be able to handle 14 psi, so i'll stay safe with only half of that... and my factory engine (kl03) block i will build later for boost, as it already has lower compression pistons in it than the ZE... Im hoping for around 220whp from my current setup however.. -dlot- its hard to see what is stamped because it is worn off... but i think i remeber seeing .48 somewhere beside the inlet of the compressor, so im pretty sure my turbo is a .42 .48  do you guys know if that flange will bolt up to a standard t3 flange... on some other forums no one knew... and said it probably wouldnt... but i figured here would be the best place to ask Last edited by blackoutgt; 03-31-2006 at 01:46 PM.. |
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03-31-2006, 02:04 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Midwest - IL
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That looks like it would bolt to a standard T3 flange. Why did they put gasket maker on the wastegate flapper housing?
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03-31-2006, 03:10 PM
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Can play the blues
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: S NJ, a suburb of Phila.
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Not the compressor housing
The turbine housing. If you look at the inlet of the turbine housing you can see the number on the edge. The inlet to the turbine housing is the flat surface that matches upto the exhaust manifold. It looks like a .63 but you can't quite make it out in your picture. The compressor housing is the aluminum cold side. The turbine housing is the hot side that handles the exhaust. If it's off a very early 240 turbo it's got a .63 hot side and either a .48 or .42 cold side. I forget what the cold side is on them.
The .63 hot side will flow a bit more than a .48 hot side. Yes, that will bolt upto a T3 flange. |
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03-31-2006, 03:37 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Midwest - IL
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Standard fare would be a .42 cold side. Some Volvos got a .52 cold side.
The 42/63 on 240 turbos would look something like this...   The .63 turbine housing is physically larger and should have .63 stamped inside the exhaust housing inlet and on the rear side of the housing.   side by side  |
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03-31-2006, 03:58 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: New Philadelphia, Ohio
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i cant make out if it says anything inside the exhaust inlet... buuut... the turbine housing looks exactly like the one that is listed as a 60/63... it has markings in the same place and looks nothing like the 42/48... you can see that in the pics... from all angles
so since it says .48 beside the compressor inlet.. and .42 inside the outlet... its most likely its a .48/.63?... correct?... or wait... a .42/.63? (<-- is the compressor size indicated by the inlet or outlet?) and as for the gasket sealer around the wastegate flapper... i dont know!? they just did! Last edited by blackoutgt; 03-31-2006 at 04:06 PM.. |
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03-31-2006, 04:33 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Midwest - IL
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I should have clarified that the 48 housing I pictured before was the kind that came on the volvo 52/48 and it looks a lot different than the type that came on the volvo 42/48. Both .48 housings are pictured here. The standard 48 ar housing looks like a smaller version of the .63 in many ways.   Here are the two next to a empty .63 housing  |
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03-31-2006, 11:31 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: New Philadelphia, Ohio
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thats it!, examined the pics close and that turbo is the exact same as mine... i only was looking at pics of my turbo to find what it is... due to it being at my fathers house.. but i went there and looked closer.. it is in fact a 42/63... as it says 63 in the flange... thanks for all the help guys... i appreciate it!... |
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04-01-2006, 12:16 AM
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sales@knoxmotorsports.us
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Henrico County
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you can swap the compressor and compressor housing with pieces from a .60 (turbo ford, nissan 300zx, etc) cold side T3 directly and have a turbo capable of pushing a lot of boost and 250hp or so on our 2.3L 8V I4s
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03-27-2007, 11:42 PM
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Newbie
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: New Philadelphia, Ohio
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Hey guys, its been awhile since this thread was opened... so heres the scoop
The probe idea is scratched and my AiResearch 42/63 T3 is now going on my sohc civic, just to get some practice with boost and have some fun. I finally have enough money to finish the project but have one question... Awhile ago some people told me that my flange was different than normal T3s... that it looked like it would fit but i doesnt. I figured if anyone knew the answer to this it would be the guys from turbobricks... Here a pic of the flange.  as you can see... the T3 "looking" flange has semi circles on the side...setting it off alittle bit. I need some opinions. My kit is almost done and im ordering a manifold to make it almost complete. Will this bolt to a standard T3 flange? -thanks |
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