Did you know? (Volvo/Toyota Tranny info)

Yea, Right · 10-17-2003, 11:44 PM

I thought I would pass on some information I came across that verified a suspicion I have had for a few years. The AW30-40 transmission found in Volvo 960's from 92-98 are actually the same automatic transmission found on twin turbo supras. Check out this link. http://www.transmissioncenter.net/Ve...ssionIndex.htm
Take a look at the supra and the 960. That's right baby!

I then did a search on A341E and came up with this article on a full buildup of this transmission. http://www.levelten.com/pdf/turbo.pdf Score!

I am finally ready to actually swap the motor on my 960, but first the tranny goes to our trans shop for a buildup. BooYaa.

bitjockey · 10-17-2003, 11:58 PM

Wow. Thats pretty interesting... are the trannies identical? Blows my mind that Volvo would put such a strong tranny behind a n/a whiteblock...

the poi · 10-18-2003, 12:24 AM

well i'll be god damn. jeebus, if a turbo 6 swap gets any easier (gee, did volvo maybe make a few hundred whiteblock thousand turbo manifolds and leave them ina warehouse somewhere?) im gonna sell my borther to malayasian slave labor camps and get started. how's the gearing on those trans? i spsoe they work for turbo supras theyll work for us eh
edit:// didnt they ahve an electronically controlled valve body? WIll the trans computer work without imputs from the ECU?

linuxman51 · 10-18-2003, 01:13 AM

well, aw70-71 etc are also toyota trannies (or rather used by toyota). dunno what all they went in, but i snagged a book for mine so maybe it'll have some decent info along with the cool pics that'll allow me to put mine back together haha

linuxman51 · 10-18-2003, 01:16 AM

hmm upon closer examination, it would appear that you misread-- the a340e thats in the 960 is found in the non turbo supra, the a341e thats in the turbo supra is something different, or so it would seem from that site.. do elaborate.. whats the difference between them..?

upon even closer examination it appears that the transmission in question is found in the 2.6L (L6?) 960s, im guessing thats some sorta euro spec 960 similar to what the whiteblock m90's are found in?
this however has piqued my interest as i'm thinking about snagging a 960 to serve as DD for a year or two and then move along into project car status(cause we all know how baddass an I6 dohc is with a big hairdryer ;) )

tjts1 · 10-18-2003, 02:20 AM

The differences are all internal. I found this out when i decided to change the fluid and filter in my 960s transmission. Volvo says these two items do not have to be changed for the lifetime of the car. I didnt buy it. Nobody stocked a Volvo 960 filter but in my search i found out this transmission was used on the Supra and Supra turbo, LS400 and the Previa minivan. I bought a filter for the LS which was a direct fit. This transmision could easily handle the HP from a T6 with the proper upgrades. There is a company in LA that specializes in beefing up these transmission for Supras.

linuxman51 · 10-20-2003, 12:41 AM

so an a340 and an a341 are the same thing?

Angus242 · 10-20-2003, 05:24 AM

Just to add some fuel to the fire:

Pretty sure the AW71 was used in Toyota Crowns, Cressedas etc. Knowing Toyota if these models were available in the US they were probably under a different name and you have no idea what I'm talking about, but they were medium/big '80's sedans/wagons with straight sixes of about 2.8L. For example a Previa is a Tarago here in Oz, and it's called something else in other markets.

The 2.6 you mention is (I think) just like the standard 3.0 960 motor (they are 3.0 right?) but with a different displacement, for lower spec models. Of course in places like the US and Australia all the 960's were top of the range, so we only ever see the 3.0 with auto trans. I have also heard that it was a 2.5 though, I'm not sure of the exact displacement in cc's.

10-20-2003, 08:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by linuxman51

so an a340 and an a341 are the same thing?

Sounds like they me be like the AW70 - AW71, near twins...

245turbobrick247 · 10-20-2003, 09:44 AM

I do know that toyota uses the aw71 in a pickup truck. SOme one on this board got one becuase it had a ?better valve body? and more clutch plates then our version. He was trying to have it built up but for one reason or another it didnt work out for him. Cant remember why?

bitjockey · 10-20-2003, 09:50 AM

AW71 was used in 3rd gen 4runners.

I've got a local shop here that beefed mine up for under $200, if any of you guys are interested... its holding up just peachy.

Angus242 · 10-20-2003, 05:10 PM

Can you fit an ex Toyota AW71 into a Volvo though? The ones I've seen on PRV6's have had bellhousings that are a single perminantly attached piece, cast as one with the main trans body, so I'm pretty sure they can't be fitted to anything other than a V6.

CHESH740R · 10-20-2003, 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Angus242

The 2.6 you mention is (I think) just like the standard 3.0 960 motor (they are 3.0 right?) but with a different displacement, for lower spec models. Of course in places like the US and Australia all the 960's were top of the range, so we only ever see the 3.0 with auto trans. I have also heard that it was a 2.5 though, I'm not sure of the exact displacement in cc's.

Indeed in the UK we got the option of 2.5 engined 960's They were either equipped with the M90 transmission or the AW30-40. The 3.0 litres only came with AW30-40's.

In fact my dad owns a top specification 960 with the 2.5 engine and the auto transmission.

boosted · 10-20-2003, 08:30 PM

my friend just got a driveline from an 87 supra and the tranny looks identical to mine, i will look at it more, but thats just a thought

760T man · 10-21-2003, 01:06 AM

I saw A341E by both Volvo 960 3.0 and Supra 3.0 Turbo.

10-21-2003, 07:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Angus242

Can you fit an ex Toyota AW71 into a Volvo though? The ones I've seen on PRV6's have had bellhousings that are a single perminantly attached piece, cast as one with the main trans body, so I'm pretty sure they can't be fitted to anything other than a V6.

Here in the US/CAN market the PRV v-6 bellhousing Volvo part# 1239687, and 1340134 w/crank pickup can be removed from the transmissions and interchange between AW70/71/71L/72L.

The automatic bellhousing is bolted from the inside at the pump, so tranny has to be removed to remove bellhousing.

Angus242 · 10-21-2003, 07:57 AM

Interesting, they don't look like they come apart but they would have to be the same as the US cars so I guess they do. Thanks for the info.

gecko · 10-21-2003, 01:14 PM

i work at a toyota dealer and i can add that the 3rd gen 4runners do in fact have the removable bellhousing just like the AW71.

neal

Angus242 · 10-21-2003, 05:07 PM

OK so the bellhousings are removable on the AW71, any chance that a BW35 bellhousing would bolt on? The AW71 is a decendant of the BW35, but it's probably too much to hope.

I may be getting a 164, and it could really benefit from an overdrive gear.

linuxman51 · 10-22-2003, 01:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 760T man

I saw A341E by both Volvo 960 3.0 and Supra 3.0 Turbo.

the 1998 one. I'm not trying to split hairs, cause if this is the same sorta bs as the aw-70/71 then yippie

I'm just saying down at the bottom, it says 960 3.0 L4, a340. thats all..

isaac · 10-22-2003, 03:53 AM

Man, now you guys are convincing me to pull the AW71 out of my 244ti and put it in my 245 so that I can get rid of that pesky slipping clutch problem. Good idea? Hmm. If for $200 I could get an AW built to withstand 300hp, I think I'd be in the hizouse. This 7.5psi boost I'm running right now is pretty much killing me seeing as I could walk a frickin Z28 2 months ago and now I can barely spank a stock Integra LS.

10-22-2003, 06:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Angus242

OK so the bellhousings are removable on the AW71, any chance that a BW35 bellhousing would bolt on? The AW71 is a decendant of the BW35, but it's probably too much to hope.

I may be getting a 164, and it could really benefit from an overdrive gear.

It may the same!

mike nz · 10-27-2003, 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 245turbobrick247

I do know that toyota uses the aw71 in a pickup truck. SOme one on this board got one becuase it had a ?better valve body? and more clutch plates then our version. He was trying to have it built up but for one reason or another it didnt work out for him. Cant remember why?

That was me... tried a toyota clutch pack (more clutch plates) in the machined 2nd gear drum. The whole drum collapsed on the way to the drags 2 days later.

Replaced with OE unit, valve body mod done at same time.

I`m a bit suspicious that the work of the trans builder wasn`t up to scratch but wasn`t able to prove it or afford to try again.

Trans currently feels great, car on the dyno 2 weeks ago made 188.5 rwhp, drags start again in 3 weeks, can`t wait !!

Cheers Mike

supratheonlyway2fly · 10-28-2003, 01:37 AM

Wow -ive got an auto out of my 1990 supra parts car in my garage and im about to pull out the tranny to the 90 740-wonder if i could.......

10-28-2003, 09:20 PM

the site list the ZF5HP in both the C70 and 960 - can that be correct ?
I didnt know Volvo used ZF autos that late

10-17-2003, 11:44 PM	#1
Yea, Right Malcontent Join Date: Mar 2003	I thought I would pass on some information I came across that verified a suspicion I have had for a few years. The AW30-40 transmission found in Volvo 960's from 92-98 are actually the same automatic transmission found on twin turbo supras. Check out this link. http://www.transmissioncenter.net/Ve...ssionIndex.htm Take a look at the supra and the 960. That's right baby! I then did a search on A341E and came up with this article on a full buildup of this transmission. http://www.levelten.com/pdf/turbo.pdf Score! I am finally ready to actually swap the motor on my 960, but first the tranny goes to our trans shop for a buildup. BooYaa. __________________ Kenny- "This is what I was trying to explain before everyone got butthurt and started calling me names".

10-18-2003, 01:13 AM	#4
linuxman51 BRANDSCHUTZVORSCHRIFTEN! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: mont, AL	well, aw70-71 etc are also toyota trannies (or rather used by toyota). dunno what all they went in, but i snagged a book for mine so maybe it'll have some decent info along with the cool pics that'll allow me to put mine back together haha __________________ "They bum rushed them in their own crib, they drank all their beer, they partied with their ladies and they left with the trophy" Now with in-house Dyno tuning! Megasquirt Tuning! Plug and play LH 2.4 Megasquirt, now with stealth mode!

10-20-2003, 05:24 AM	#8
Angus242 Board Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Melbourne, Victoria, Australia	Just to add some fuel to the fire: Pretty sure the AW71 was used in Toyota Crowns, Cressedas etc. Knowing Toyota if these models were available in the US they were probably under a different name and you have no idea what I'm talking about, but they were medium/big '80's sedans/wagons with straight sixes of about 2.8L. For example a Previa is a Tarago here in Oz, and it's called something else in other markets. The 2.6 you mention is (I think) just like the standard 3.0 960 motor (they are 3.0 right?) but with a different displacement, for lower spec models. Of course in places like the US and Australia all the 960's were top of the range, so we only ever see the 3.0 with auto trans. I have also heard that it was a 2.5 though, I'm not sure of the exact displacement in cc's. __________________ '75 242GL, B23E, H cam, M46, 3.91 rear end, electric fan, custom intake, custom exhaust. '74 164E under restoration/modification. http://users.tpg.com.au/ajcw84/Volvo242.htm

10-20-2003, 08:30 PM	#14
boosted Board Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: melbourne, fl	my friend just got a driveline from an 87 supra and the tranny looks identical to mine, i will look at it more, but thats just a thought __________________ -1998 V70r AWD

10-21-2003, 01:06 AM	#15
760T man Phillip Mamouf-Wifarts Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Bettendorf, IA, when I'm not EASTBOUND 'N DOOOOOWN LOADED UP 'N TRUCKIN'	I saw A341E by both Volvo 960 3.0 and Supra 3.0 Turbo. __________________ a '90 765ti, an '84 244ti, and an '18 780 Turbocharge it, and instead of the typhoon, or syclone, we will call it the “light breeze” -mrsam740 referring to the Oldsmobile 4.3 diesel

10-18-2003, 12:24 AM	#3
the poi Has been Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Pasadena, CA	well i'll be god damn. jeebus, if a turbo 6 swap gets any easier (gee, did volvo maybe make a few hundred whiteblock thousand turbo manifolds and leave them ina warehouse somewhere?) im gonna sell my borther to malayasian slave labor camps and get started. how's the gearing on those trans? i spsoe they work for turbo supras theyll work for us eh edit:// didnt they ahve an electronically controlled valve body? WIll the trans computer work without imputs from the ECU?

10-18-2003, 01:16 AM	#5
linuxman51 BRANDSCHUTZVORSCHRIFTEN! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: mont, AL	hmm upon closer examination, it would appear that you misread-- the a340e thats in the 960 is found in the non turbo supra, the a341e thats in the turbo supra is something different, or so it would seem from that site.. do elaborate.. whats the difference between them..? upon even closer examination it appears that the transmission in question is found in the 2.6L (L6?) 960s, im guessing thats some sorta euro spec 960 similar to what the whiteblock m90's are found in? this however has piqued my interest as i'm thinking about snagging a 960 to serve as DD for a year or two and then move along into project car status(cause we all know how baddass an I6 dohc is with a big hairdryer ;) )

10-18-2003, 02:20 AM	#6
tjts1 Board Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Smellingham, WA	The differences are all internal. I found this out when i decided to change the fluid and filter in my 960s transmission. Volvo says these two items do not have to be changed for the lifetime of the car. I didnt buy it. Nobody stocked a Volvo 960 filter but in my search i found out this transmission was used on the Supra and Supra turbo, LS400 and the Previa minivan. I bought a filter for the LS which was a direct fit. This transmision could easily handle the HP from a T6 with the proper upgrades. There is a company in LA that specializes in beefing up these transmission for Supras.

10-20-2003, 12:41 AM	#7
linuxman51 BRANDSCHUTZVORSCHRIFTEN! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: mont, AL	so an a340 and an a341 are the same thing?

10-20-2003, 09:44 AM	#10
245turbobrick247 Board Member Join Date: Mar 2003	I do know that toyota uses the aw71 in a pickup truck. SOme one on this board got one becuase it had a ?better valve body? and more clutch plates then our version. He was trying to have it built up but for one reason or another it didnt work out for him. Cant remember why?

10-20-2003, 09:50 AM	#11
bitjockey Board Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: behind the drive axles... for once	AW71 was used in 3rd gen 4runners. I've got a local shop here that beefed mine up for under $200, if any of you guys are interested... its holding up just peachy.

10-20-2003, 05:10 PM	#12
Angus242 Board Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Melbourne, Victoria, Australia	Can you fit an ex Toyota AW71 into a Volvo though? The ones I've seen on PRV6's have had bellhousings that are a single perminantly attached piece, cast as one with the main trans body, so I'm pretty sure they can't be fitted to anything other than a V6.

10-21-2003, 07:57 AM	#17
Angus242 Board Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Melbourne, Victoria, Australia	Interesting, they don't look like they come apart but they would have to be the same as the US cars so I guess they do. Thanks for the info.

10-21-2003, 01:14 PM	#18
gecko Board Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: N. VA	i work at a toyota dealer and i can add that the 3rd gen 4runners do in fact have the removable bellhousing just like the AW71. neal __________________ _____________________________ 1991 780T... 0-60 curvy roads COMING SOON: 19T, proturbo header, 16v head, stroker crank, redesigned 3" exhaust 1988 240.... 0-60 curvy roads daily driver TOTALED anybody selling a sweet car?

10-21-2003, 05:07 PM	#19
Angus242 Board Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Melbourne, Victoria, Australia	OK so the bellhousings are removable on the AW71, any chance that a BW35 bellhousing would bolt on? The AW71 is a decendant of the BW35, but it's probably too much to hope. I may be getting a 164, and it could really benefit from an overdrive gear.

10-22-2003, 03:53 AM	#21
isaac F*ck the police Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Ciudad Poupstonn	Man, now you guys are convincing me to pull the AW71 out of my 244ti and put it in my 245 so that I can get rid of that pesky slipping clutch problem. Good idea? Hmm. If for $200 I could get an AW built to withstand 300hp, I think I'd be in the hizouse. This 7.5psi boost I'm running right now is pretty much killing me seeing as I could walk a frickin Z28 2 months ago and now I can barely spank a stock Integra LS. __________________ "If you, the citizen, deliberately vote for someone who won't give you health care over someone who will, you need to have your head examined, except you can't afford to have your head examined." - Bill Maher 1998 Volvo V70T5 1989 Volvo 244DL 1990 BMW 52(3)5i and Matt Dionne still rides with me

10-28-2003, 01:37 AM	#24
supratheonlyway2fly Board Member Join Date: Oct 2003	Wow -ive got an auto out of my 1990 supra parts car in my garage and im about to pull out the tranny to the 90 740-wonder if i could....... __________________ Kris Weldy Destination BOOST Arlington Texas 1989 supra turbo hdtp(RARE)na ceramic and molyibdeum coated pistons in a turbo block,walbro 255 hi flo fp,blitz dsbc,haltech f7c programmable efi,4.30 lsd,mustang cobra electric fan,volvo intercooler and custom piping(huge),modded ct26 to4e 50 trim turbo,modified clutch per american power and brake,o ringed block,arp head studs,jamex springs,gab struts. 1990 740 volvo turbo 1996 dodge avenger es-wifes bling bling daily driver.

10-28-2003, 09:20 PM	#25
Anonymous Guest	the site list the ZF5HP in both the C70 and 960 - can that be correct ? I didnt know Volvo used ZF autos that late